Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
Looks like you summoned a Nortification, Travis.
LZ – Lēri Ziwi
PS – Proto Sāzlakuic (ancestor of LZ)
PRk – Proto Rākēwuic
XI – Xú Iạlan
VN – verbal noun
SUP – supine
DIRECT – verbal directional
My language stuff
PS – Proto Sāzlakuic (ancestor of LZ)
PRk – Proto Rākēwuic
XI – Xú Iạlan
VN – verbal noun
SUP – supine
DIRECT – verbal directional
My language stuff
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Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
/m n ɲ ŋ/ <mo no nco ngo> ~ <m n nc ng>
/ʔm ʔn ʔɲ ʔŋ/ <ma na nya nga> ~ <me ne nye nge>
/p t c k/ <po to tco ko> ~ <p t tc k>
/ph th ch kh/ <px tx tcx kx> ~ <ph th tch kh>
/px tx cx kx/ <pq tq tcq kq> ~ <pj tj tcj kj>
/p’ t’ c’ k’ ʔ/ <pa ta tca ka a> ~ <pe te ce ke e>
/b d ɟ g/ <bo do dco go> ~ <b d dc g>
/f s ʃ x h/ <fo so sco q x> ~ <f s sc j h>
/t͡s t͡ʃ/ <zo zco> ~ <z zc>
/t͡sh t͡ʃh/ <zx zcx> ~ <zh zch>
/t͡sx t͡ʃx/ <zq zcq> ~ <zj zcj>
/r l j w/ <ro lo yo wo> ~ <r l y w>
/a e i o u 0/ <A E Ei Ạ Ai 'A>
/aː eː iː oː uː/ <Av Ev Aiv Ạv Aiv>
/yeːm yeːʃeːm t’uːm t͡saraʃ/
/t͡share kxaːʔ ŋuwimu kwaːtho/
/ŋuwi haʔ sis noi noʔnwosis p’uhe kat ʃeʔ ɲus goː/
Yv'm yvscv'm taiv'm zr'sc.
Zxr kxv'a ngoiwimoi 'kwoavtx̣.
Ngoiwi h'e si's nọ'i nọ'anowọsi's paih ko't sc'e nci's g̣v.
or
/m n ɲ ŋ/ <ᴍ ɴ ɴc ɴg> ~ <m n nc ng>
/ʔm ʔn ʔɲ ʔŋ/ <aᴍ aɴ aɴc aɴg> ~ <em en eny eng>
/p t c k/ <ᴘ ᴛ ᴛc ᴋ> ~ <p t tc k>
/ph th ch kh/ <ᴘx ᴛx ᴛcx ᴋx> ~ <ph th tch kh>
/px tx cx kx/ <ᴘq ᴛq ᴛcq ᴋq> ~ <pj tj tcj kj>
/p’ t’ c’ k’ ʔ/ <ᴘa ᴛa ᴛca ᴋa a> ~ <pe te ce ke e>
/b d ɟ g/ <ʙ ᴅ ᴅc ɢ> ~ <b d dc g>
/f s ʃ x h/ <ғ s sc q x> ~ <f ſ ſc j h>
/t͡s t͡ʃ/ <ʒ ʒc> ~ <z zc>
/t͡sh t͡ʃh/ <ʒx ʒcx> ~ <zh zch>
/t͡sx t͡ʃx/ <ʒq ʒcq> ~ <zj zcj>
/r l j w/ <ʀ ʟ ʏ ᴡ> ~ <r l y ω>
final -high V <C’>, final 0 <C>
Yvm yvſcvm ᴛaıvᴍ ʒrsc.
Ʒxr’ ᴋxva ɴgıωıᴍı ’ᴋwvᴛx̣’.
N’gıωı ha ſıſ ɴ̣ï ɴ̣a’ɴẉſıſ ᴘaıh’ ᴋaᴛ sce ɴcıs ɢ̣’v.
/ʔm ʔn ʔɲ ʔŋ/ <ma na nya nga> ~ <me ne nye nge>
/p t c k/ <po to tco ko> ~ <p t tc k>
/ph th ch kh/ <px tx tcx kx> ~ <ph th tch kh>
/px tx cx kx/ <pq tq tcq kq> ~ <pj tj tcj kj>
/p’ t’ c’ k’ ʔ/ <pa ta tca ka a> ~ <pe te ce ke e>
/b d ɟ g/ <bo do dco go> ~ <b d dc g>
/f s ʃ x h/ <fo so sco q x> ~ <f s sc j h>
/t͡s t͡ʃ/ <zo zco> ~ <z zc>
/t͡sh t͡ʃh/ <zx zcx> ~ <zh zch>
/t͡sx t͡ʃx/ <zq zcq> ~ <zj zcj>
/r l j w/ <ro lo yo wo> ~ <r l y w>
/a e i o u 0/ <A E Ei Ạ Ai 'A>
/aː eː iː oː uː/ <Av Ev Aiv Ạv Aiv>
/yeːm yeːʃeːm t’uːm t͡saraʃ/
/t͡share kxaːʔ ŋuwimu kwaːtho/
/ŋuwi haʔ sis noi noʔnwosis p’uhe kat ʃeʔ ɲus goː/
Yv'm yvscv'm taiv'm zr'sc.
Zxr kxv'a ngoiwimoi 'kwoavtx̣.
Ngoiwi h'e si's nọ'i nọ'anowọsi's paih ko't sc'e nci's g̣v.
or
/m n ɲ ŋ/ <ᴍ ɴ ɴc ɴg> ~ <m n nc ng>
/ʔm ʔn ʔɲ ʔŋ/ <aᴍ aɴ aɴc aɴg> ~ <em en eny eng>
/p t c k/ <ᴘ ᴛ ᴛc ᴋ> ~ <p t tc k>
/ph th ch kh/ <ᴘx ᴛx ᴛcx ᴋx> ~ <ph th tch kh>
/px tx cx kx/ <ᴘq ᴛq ᴛcq ᴋq> ~ <pj tj tcj kj>
/p’ t’ c’ k’ ʔ/ <ᴘa ᴛa ᴛca ᴋa a> ~ <pe te ce ke e>
/b d ɟ g/ <ʙ ᴅ ᴅc ɢ> ~ <b d dc g>
/f s ʃ x h/ <ғ s sc q x> ~ <f ſ ſc j h>
/t͡s t͡ʃ/ <ʒ ʒc> ~ <z zc>
/t͡sh t͡ʃh/ <ʒx ʒcx> ~ <zh zch>
/t͡sx t͡ʃx/ <ʒq ʒcq> ~ <zj zcj>
/r l j w/ <ʀ ʟ ʏ ᴡ> ~ <r l y ω>
final -high V <C’>, final 0 <C>
Yvm yvſcvm ᴛaıvᴍ ʒrsc.
Ʒxr’ ᴋxva ɴgıωıᴍı ’ᴋwvᴛx̣’.
N’gıωı ha ſıſ ɴ̣ï ɴ̣a’ɴẉſıſ ᴘaıh’ ᴋaᴛ sce ɴcıs ɢ̣’v.
Duaj teibohnggoe kyoe' quaqtoeq lucj lhaj k'yoejdej noeyn tucj.
K'yoejdaq fohm q'ujdoe duaj teibohnggoen dlehq lucj.
Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq.
K'yoejdaq fohm q'ujdoe duaj teibohnggoen dlehq lucj.
Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq.
Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
/m n ɲ ŋ/ <ma na ña va>
/ʔm ʔn ʔɲ ʔŋ/ <me ne ñe ve>
/p t c k/ <be de je ge>
/ph th ch kh/ <pe te ce ke>
/px tx cx kx/ <pa ta ca ka>
/p’ t’ c’ k’ ʔ/ <fe se xe qe he>
/b d ɟ g/ <ba da ja ga>
/f s ʃ x h/ <fa sa xa qa ha>
/t͡s t͡ʃ/ <re ye>
/t͡sh t͡ʃh/ <ze çe>
/t͡sx t͡ʃx/ <za ça>
/r l j w/ <ra la ya wa>
/a e i o u/ <e/a ei/ai i/oi eu/au u/ou>
/Vː VV/ <Vl Vwe/etc.>
VE VA > VC VaC when not _V, except for AaA > CoC and #A > oC
/jeːm jeːʃeːm t’uːm t͡saraʃ/ <Yaialm yailxaialm sualm rerox.>
/t͡share kxaːʔ ŋuwimu kwaːtho/ <Zerai kalh vouwoimou gwalteu.>
/ŋuwi haʔ sis noi noʔnwosis p’uhe kat ʃeʔ ɲus goː/ <Vouwoi hah soias nauwi naunwausoias fuhai ged xaih ñouas gaul.>
/ʔm ʔn ʔɲ ʔŋ/ <me ne ñe ve>
/p t c k/ <be de je ge>
/ph th ch kh/ <pe te ce ke>
/px tx cx kx/ <pa ta ca ka>
/p’ t’ c’ k’ ʔ/ <fe se xe qe he>
/b d ɟ g/ <ba da ja ga>
/f s ʃ x h/ <fa sa xa qa ha>
/t͡s t͡ʃ/ <re ye>
/t͡sh t͡ʃh/ <ze çe>
/t͡sx t͡ʃx/ <za ça>
/r l j w/ <ra la ya wa>
/a e i o u/ <e/a ei/ai i/oi eu/au u/ou>
/Vː VV/ <Vl Vwe/etc.>
VE VA > VC VaC when not _V, except for AaA > CoC and #A > oC
/jeːm jeːʃeːm t’uːm t͡saraʃ/ <Yaialm yailxaialm sualm rerox.>
/t͡share kxaːʔ ŋuwimu kwaːtho/ <Zerai kalh vouwoimou gwalteu.>
/ŋuwi haʔ sis noi noʔnwosis p’uhe kat ʃeʔ ɲus goː/ <Vouwoi hah soias nauwi naunwausoias fuhai ged xaih ñouas gaul.>
Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
ヘ フェ、ヘ カーイ モウテレ ア アオテアロア イ テ モアナ゠ヌイ゠ア゠キワ。コ カ゚ー モウテレ マトゥ コ テ イカ゠ア゠マーウイ キ テ ラキ・コ テ ワイ゠ポウナム、アラ テ ワカ゠ア゠マーウイ キ ワエカ゚ヌイ・メ ラキウラ キ テ トカ゚
Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
Is this a different kind of Romanisation challenge¹? It doesn't look like an attempt at the last challenge.
¹ As in, find a working Romanisation of this text
LZ – Lēri Ziwi
PS – Proto Sāzlakuic (ancestor of LZ)
PRk – Proto Rākēwuic
XI – Xú Iạlan
VN – verbal noun
SUP – supine
DIRECT – verbal directional
My language stuff
PS – Proto Sāzlakuic (ancestor of LZ)
PRk – Proto Rākēwuic
XI – Xú Iạlan
VN – verbal noun
SUP – supine
DIRECT – verbal directional
My language stuff
Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
Could you fill us into the language and or at least the original text?
Yaaludinuya siima d'at yiseka wohadetafa gaare.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
After doing some Romanising, I think it's Māori¹, but it would be nice to have confirmation.
¹ アオテアロア = Aotearoa, if I'm not mistaken
LZ – Lēri Ziwi
PS – Proto Sāzlakuic (ancestor of LZ)
PRk – Proto Rākēwuic
XI – Xú Iạlan
VN – verbal noun
SUP – supine
DIRECT – verbal directional
My language stuff
PS – Proto Sāzlakuic (ancestor of LZ)
PRk – Proto Rākēwuic
XI – Xú Iạlan
VN – verbal noun
SUP – supine
DIRECT – verbal directional
My language stuff
Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
You're correct. The full schema, if you're interested:
a i u e o - ア イ ウ エ オ
ka ki ku ke ko - カ キ ク ケ コ
nga ngi ngu nge ngo - カ゚ キ゚ ク゚ ケ゚ コ゚1
ta ti tu te to - タ ティ トゥ テ ト
na ni nu ne no - ナ ニ ヌ ネ ノ
ha hi hu he ho - ハ ヒ ホゥ ヘ ホ
wha whi whu whe who - ファ フィ フ フェ フォ
pa pi pu pe po - パ ピ プ ペ ポ
ma mi mu me mo - マ ミ ム メ モ
ra ri ru re ro - ラ リ ル レ ロ
wa wi wu we wo - ワ ヰ ウゥ ヱ ヲ
V̄ - ー
1 Half-voiced <k> is "[s]ometimes used in Japanese linguistics to transcribe the bidakuon [ŋ] initial" per Wikipedia.
Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
Is half-voicing supposed to take another whole character width?ophois wrote: ↑Sun Aug 09, 2026 5:10 pmYou're correct. The full schema, if you're interested:
a i u e o - ア イ ウ エ オ
ka ki ku ke ko - カ キ ク ケ コ
nga ngi ngu nge ngo - カ゚ キ゚ ク゚ ケ゚ コ゚1
ta ti tu te to - タ ティ トゥ テ ト
na ni nu ne no - ナ ニ ヌ ネ ノ
ha hi hu he ho - ハ ヒ ホゥ ヘ ホ
wha whi whu whe who - ファ フィ フ フェ フォ
pa pi pu pe po - パ ピ プ ペ ポ
ma mi mu me mo - マ ミ ム メ モ
ra ri ru re ro - ラ リ ル レ ロ
wa wi wu we wo - ワ ヰ ウゥ ヱ ヲ
V̄ - ー
1 Half-voiced <k> is "[s]ometimes used in Japanese linguistics to transcribe the bidakuon [ŋ] initial" per Wikipedia.
Yaaludinuya siima d'at yiseka wohadetafa gaare.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
It shows up as a single character under mobile Chrome on my Android phone but as two characters under Firefox on my PC running Debian GNU/Linux.
Yaaludinuya siima d'at yiseka wohadetafa gaare.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
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Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
Likely a font issue. U+390A COMBINING KATAKANA-HIRAGANA SEMI-VOICED SOUND MARK shouldn't render as a spacing character. What font does your PC setup use to render Japanese text?
Duaj teibohnggoe kyoe' quaqtoeq lucj lhaj k'yoejdej noeyn tucj.
K'yoejdaq fohm q'ujdoe duaj teibohnggoen dlehq lucj.
Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq.
K'yoejdaq fohm q'ujdoe duaj teibohnggoen dlehq lucj.
Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq.
Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
No clue, TBH.Nortaneous wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2026 6:49 amLikely a font issue. U+390A COMBINING KATAKANA-HIRAGANA SEMI-VOICED SOUND MARK shouldn't render as a spacing character. What font does your PC setup use to render Japanese text?
Yaaludinuya siima d'at yiseka wohadetafa gaare.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
This is for an unnamed West Germanic conlang:
/m n ŋ/
/p b t d k g/
/f s ʃ x h/
/v z/
/w r l j/
/ɪ ʏ ʊ/
/ɛ œ ɔ ə/
/a/
/iː yː uː/
/eː øː oː/
/æː ɑː/
/ai œy ɑu/
/æːn twæː triː fjæːr fiːf sɛks seːvən axt nyːn tain/
/ɔtərs kʊnə swiːd snɛl swɪmə, mɑːr kʊnə hjæː an land snɛləɾ as ən mɛnʃ loːpə?/
/də sʊn ʃiːnt hyːd, gɪstər ʃæːn hyː neːt/
/da lʏtə myːs sɪnd ʊndər dət bɛd/
/də tjæːf stɑːl dət broːd, də keːs ɛnd də wiːn/
/hʊk tjæːf? deː ɔf deː?/
/dət iːs ɪs tʏn/
/dət wɑːtər ɪs djæːp/
/dɪt huːs ɪs ɔld, dat huːs ɪs nyː/
/dɪs gɑuːs ɪs wiːt, dyː gɑus ɪs græː/
/dɪs apəl ɪs grœyn, deː apəl ɪs roːd/
/deːzə bœyk sɪnd miːn, dæː bœyk sɪnd diːn/
/mɑːkə wiː hɪt nuː, ɑudərs mɑːk ɪk hɪt sʊnər diː/ (although here /hɪt/ would probably be contracted to /ət/ or /t/; maybe even /mɑːk ɪk/ > /mɑːk ək/)
/dat hɑːt spɑːs mɑːkt/
/wiː høːr diː, høːrs duː uːs?/
/m n ŋ/
/p b t d k g/
/f s ʃ x h/
/v z/
/w r l j/
/ɪ ʏ ʊ/
/ɛ œ ɔ ə/
/a/
/iː yː uː/
/eː øː oː/
/æː ɑː/
/ai œy ɑu/
/æːn twæː triː fjæːr fiːf sɛks seːvən axt nyːn tain/
/ɔtərs kʊnə swiːd snɛl swɪmə, mɑːr kʊnə hjæː an land snɛləɾ as ən mɛnʃ loːpə?/
/də sʊn ʃiːnt hyːd, gɪstər ʃæːn hyː neːt/
/da lʏtə myːs sɪnd ʊndər dət bɛd/
/də tjæːf stɑːl dət broːd, də keːs ɛnd də wiːn/
/hʊk tjæːf? deː ɔf deː?/
/dət iːs ɪs tʏn/
/dət wɑːtər ɪs djæːp/
/dɪt huːs ɪs ɔld, dat huːs ɪs nyː/
/dɪs gɑuːs ɪs wiːt, dyː gɑus ɪs græː/
/dɪs apəl ɪs grœyn, deː apəl ɪs roːd/
/deːzə bœyk sɪnd miːn, dæː bœyk sɪnd diːn/
/mɑːkə wiː hɪt nuː, ɑudərs mɑːk ɪk hɪt sʊnər diː/ (although here /hɪt/ would probably be contracted to /ət/ or /t/; maybe even /mɑːk ɪk/ > /mɑːk ək/)
/dat hɑːt spɑːs mɑːkt/
/wiː høːr diː, høːrs duː uːs?/
Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
/m n ŋ/ ⟨m n ng⟩
/p b t d k g/ ⟨p b t d k g⟩
/f s ʃ x h/ ⟨f s sch ch h⟩
/v z/ ⟨v z⟩
/w r l j/ ⟨w r l j⟩
/ɪ ʏ ʊ/ ⟨i ü u⟩ + CC
/ɛ œ ɔ ə/ ⟨e ö o⟩ + CC, ⟨e⟩
/a/ ⟨a⟩ + CC
/iː yː uː/ ⟨i ü u⟩ or ⟨ii üü uu⟩ + CC
/eː øː oː/ ⟨e ö o⟩ or ⟨ee öö oo⟩ + CC (but /eː/ is ⟨ee⟩ word-finally)
/æː ɑː/ ⟨ä a⟩ or ⟨ää aa⟩̇ + CC
/ai œy ɑu/ ⟨ai öü au⟩
Note that word-final consonants behave as CC.
/æːn twæː triː fjæːr fiːf sɛks seːvən axt nyːn tain/
ään twä tri fjäär fiif seks seven acht nüün tain
/ɔtərs kʊnə swiːd snɛl swɪmə, mɑːr kʊnə hjæː an land snɛləɾ as ən mɛnʃ loːpə?/
Otters kunne swiid snel swimme, maar kunne hjä an land sneller as en mensch lope?
/də sʊn ʃiːnt hyːd, gɪstər ʃæːn hyː neːt/
De sun schiint hüüd, gister schään hü neet.
/da lʏtə myːs sɪnd ʊndər dət bɛd/
De lütte müüs sind under det bed.
/də tjæːf stɑːl dət broːd, də keːs ɛnd də wiːn/
De tjääf staal det brood, de kees end de wiin.
/hʊk tjæːf? deː ɔf deː?/
Huk tjääf? Dee of dee?
/dət iːs ɪs tʏn/
Det iis is tün.
/dət wɑːtər ɪs djæːp/
Det water is djääp.
/dɪt huːs ɪs ɔld, dat huːs ɪs nyː/
Dit huus is old, dat huus is nü.
/dɪs gɑuːs ɪs wiːt, dyː gɑus ɪs græː/
Dis gaus is wiit, dü gaus is grä.
/dɪs apəl ɪs grœyn, deː apəl ɪs roːd/
Dis appel is gröün, dee appel is rood.
/deːzə bœyk sɪnd miːn, dæː bœyk sɪnd diːn/
Deze böük sind miin, dä böük sind diin.
/mɑːkə wiː hɪt nuː, ɑudərs mɑːk ɪk hɪt sʊnər diː/ (although here /hɪt/ would probably be contracted to /ət/ or /t/; maybe even /mɑːk ɪk/ > /mɑːk ək/)
Make wi hit nu, auders maak ik hit sunner di.
/dat hɑːt spɑːs mɑːkt/
Dat haat spaas maakt.
/wiː høːr diː, høːrs duː uːs?/
Wi höör di, höörs du uus?
/p b t d k g/ ⟨p b t d k g⟩
/f s ʃ x h/ ⟨f s sch ch h⟩
/v z/ ⟨v z⟩
/w r l j/ ⟨w r l j⟩
/ɪ ʏ ʊ/ ⟨i ü u⟩ + CC
/ɛ œ ɔ ə/ ⟨e ö o⟩ + CC, ⟨e⟩
/a/ ⟨a⟩ + CC
/iː yː uː/ ⟨i ü u⟩ or ⟨ii üü uu⟩ + CC
/eː øː oː/ ⟨e ö o⟩ or ⟨ee öö oo⟩ + CC (but /eː/ is ⟨ee⟩ word-finally)
/æː ɑː/ ⟨ä a⟩ or ⟨ää aa⟩̇ + CC
/ai œy ɑu/ ⟨ai öü au⟩
Note that word-final consonants behave as CC.
/æːn twæː triː fjæːr fiːf sɛks seːvən axt nyːn tain/
ään twä tri fjäär fiif seks seven acht nüün tain
/ɔtərs kʊnə swiːd snɛl swɪmə, mɑːr kʊnə hjæː an land snɛləɾ as ən mɛnʃ loːpə?/
Otters kunne swiid snel swimme, maar kunne hjä an land sneller as en mensch lope?
/də sʊn ʃiːnt hyːd, gɪstər ʃæːn hyː neːt/
De sun schiint hüüd, gister schään hü neet.
/da lʏtə myːs sɪnd ʊndər dət bɛd/
De lütte müüs sind under det bed.
/də tjæːf stɑːl dət broːd, də keːs ɛnd də wiːn/
De tjääf staal det brood, de kees end de wiin.
/hʊk tjæːf? deː ɔf deː?/
Huk tjääf? Dee of dee?
/dət iːs ɪs tʏn/
Det iis is tün.
/dət wɑːtər ɪs djæːp/
Det water is djääp.
/dɪt huːs ɪs ɔld, dat huːs ɪs nyː/
Dit huus is old, dat huus is nü.
/dɪs gɑuːs ɪs wiːt, dyː gɑus ɪs græː/
Dis gaus is wiit, dü gaus is grä.
/dɪs apəl ɪs grœyn, deː apəl ɪs roːd/
Dis appel is gröün, dee appel is rood.
/deːzə bœyk sɪnd miːn, dæː bœyk sɪnd diːn/
Deze böük sind miin, dä böük sind diin.
/mɑːkə wiː hɪt nuː, ɑudərs mɑːk ɪk hɪt sʊnər diː/ (although here /hɪt/ would probably be contracted to /ət/ or /t/; maybe even /mɑːk ɪk/ > /mɑːk ək/)
Make wi hit nu, auders maak ik hit sunner di.
/dat hɑːt spɑːs mɑːkt/
Dat haat spaas maakt.
/wiː høːr diː, høːrs duː uːs?/
Wi höör di, höörs du uus?
Yaaludinuya siima d'at yiseka wohadetafa gaare.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
I've attempted to make a relatively realistic Germanic orthography, including some quirks. Please forgive any errors based on incorrect or missed etymologising.
/m n ŋ/ ⟨m n ng⟩
/p b t d k g/ ⟨p b t d k/ck¹ g⟩
/f s ʃ x h/ ⟨f s/z² sch ch h⟩
/v z/ ⟨v s⟩
/w r l j/ ⟨w r l j/i³⟩
/ɪ ʏ ʊ/ ⟨i ü u⟩
/ɛ œ ɔ ə/ ⟨e⁴ ö o e⟩
/a/ ⟨a⟩
/iː yː uː/ ⟨i ü u⟩ ⟨ie üe uu⟩
/eː øː oː/ ⟨e/ä⁵ ö o⟩ ⟨ee/äe⁵ öe oo⟩
/æː ɑː/ ⟨ae/ia⁷ a⟩ ⟨ae/iaa⁷ aa⟩
/ai œy ɑu/ ⟨ey öy au⟩
Vowel length is indicated using a relatively standard Germanic consonant/vowel doubling mechanism. Having written all the words, I think the rules are the following:
/æːn twæː triː fjæːr fiːf sɛks seːvən axt nyːn tain/ ⟨Aen, twae, trie, fiaar, fief, seks, seven, acht, nüen, teyn.⟩
/ɔtərs kʊnə swiːd snɛl swɪmə, mɑːr kʊnə hjæː an land snɛləɾ as ən mɛnʃ loːpə?/ ⟨Otters kunne swied snell swimme, maar kunne hia an land sneller as mensch lope?⟩
/də sʊn ʃiːnt hyːd, gɪstər ʃæːn hyː neːt/ ⟨De sunn schient hüed, gister schaen hüe neet.⟩
/da lʏtə myːs sɪnd ʊndər dət bɛd/ ⟨De lütte mües sind under det bed.⟩
/də tjæːf stɑːl dət broːd, də keːs ɛnd də wiːn/ ⟨De tiaf staal det brod, de, de kees end de wien.⟩
/hʊk tjæːf? deː ɔf deː?/ ⟨Huck tiaef? Däe of däe?⟩
/dət iːs ɪs tʏn/ ⟨Det ies is tünn.⟩
/dət wɑːtər ɪs djæːp/ ⟨Det water is diaap.⟩
/dɪt huːs ɪs ɔld, dat huːs ɪs nyː/ ⟨Dit huus is old, dat huus is nüe.⟩
/dɪs gɑuːs ɪs wiːt, dyː gɑus ɪs græː/ ⟨Dis gaus is wiet, düe gaus is grae.⟩
/dɪs apəl ɪs grœyn, deː apəl ɪs roːd/ ⟨Dis appel is gröyn, däe appel is rod.⟩
/deːzə bœyk sɪnd miːn, dæː bœyk sɪnd diːn/ ⟨Dese böyk sind mien, dae böyk sind dien.⟩
/mɑːkə wiː hɪt nuː, ɑudərs mɑːk ɪk hɪt sʊnər diː/ ⟨Make wie hit (wie't) nu, auders mak ik hit sunner die.⟩
/dat hɑːt spɑːs mɑːkt/ ⟨Dat haat spaaz makt.⟩
/wiː høːr diː, høːrs duː uːs?/ ⟨Wie höer die, höers du uus?⟩
¹ When doubled
² ⟨z⟩ is used for a single /z/ intervocalically after a long vowel or diphthong, where single ⟨s⟩ would be read as /z/, as well as for word-final /s/ after a long vowel, where it alternates with /z/
³ After a consonant
⁴ Outside initial syllables, and also possibly to distinguish some single-syllable homophones
⁵ Used when it alternates with /æː ɑː/⁶
⁶ If I read your sentences right
⁷ /jæː/ is ⟨ia(a)⟩ after a consonant. /jɑː/ is ⟨ja(a)⟩ is all circumstances
/m n ŋ/ ⟨m n ng⟩
/p b t d k g/ ⟨p b t d k/ck¹ g⟩
/f s ʃ x h/ ⟨f s/z² sch ch h⟩
/v z/ ⟨v s⟩
/w r l j/ ⟨w r l j/i³⟩
/ɪ ʏ ʊ/ ⟨i ü u⟩
/ɛ œ ɔ ə/ ⟨e⁴ ö o e⟩
/a/ ⟨a⟩
/iː yː uː/ ⟨i ü u⟩ ⟨ie üe uu⟩
/eː øː oː/ ⟨e/ä⁵ ö o⟩ ⟨ee/äe⁵ öe oo⟩
/æː ɑː/ ⟨ae/ia⁷ a⟩ ⟨ae/iaa⁷ aa⟩
/ai œy ɑu/ ⟨ey öy au⟩
Vowel length is indicated using a relatively standard Germanic consonant/vowel doubling mechanism. Having written all the words, I think the rules are the following:
- Inflectional /-t/ and /-s/ are always ignored for the following rules
- The multigraphs ⟨ng sch ch⟩ are considered already doubled, and the vowel before is considered as in a closed syllable
- All consonants are doubled intervocalically after a short vowel
- No consonants are ever doubled after a long vowel, diphthong, schwa, or other unstressed vowel, or in a cluster
- ⟨m n l p t k s⟩ are doubled at the end of a word after a short consonant.
- Long ⟨ä ö ü i⟩ are doubled in all closed syllables, and word finally.
- Other long vowels are doubled in closed syllables before a resonant or ⟨s⟩, as well as before ⟨p t k⟩ except in regular verbs where the vowel alternates with an open syllable version.
- /deː/ is additionally spelled ⟨däe⟩ to avoid confusion with ⟨de⟩ /də/
/æːn twæː triː fjæːr fiːf sɛks seːvən axt nyːn tain/ ⟨Aen, twae, trie, fiaar, fief, seks, seven, acht, nüen, teyn.⟩
/ɔtərs kʊnə swiːd snɛl swɪmə, mɑːr kʊnə hjæː an land snɛləɾ as ən mɛnʃ loːpə?/ ⟨Otters kunne swied snell swimme, maar kunne hia an land sneller as mensch lope?⟩
/də sʊn ʃiːnt hyːd, gɪstər ʃæːn hyː neːt/ ⟨De sunn schient hüed, gister schaen hüe neet.⟩
/da lʏtə myːs sɪnd ʊndər dət bɛd/ ⟨De lütte mües sind under det bed.⟩
/də tjæːf stɑːl dət broːd, də keːs ɛnd də wiːn/ ⟨De tiaf staal det brod, de, de kees end de wien.⟩
/hʊk tjæːf? deː ɔf deː?/ ⟨Huck tiaef? Däe of däe?⟩
/dət iːs ɪs tʏn/ ⟨Det ies is tünn.⟩
/dət wɑːtər ɪs djæːp/ ⟨Det water is diaap.⟩
/dɪt huːs ɪs ɔld, dat huːs ɪs nyː/ ⟨Dit huus is old, dat huus is nüe.⟩
/dɪs gɑuːs ɪs wiːt, dyː gɑus ɪs græː/ ⟨Dis gaus is wiet, düe gaus is grae.⟩
/dɪs apəl ɪs grœyn, deː apəl ɪs roːd/ ⟨Dis appel is gröyn, däe appel is rod.⟩
/deːzə bœyk sɪnd miːn, dæː bœyk sɪnd diːn/ ⟨Dese böyk sind mien, dae böyk sind dien.⟩
/mɑːkə wiː hɪt nuː, ɑudərs mɑːk ɪk hɪt sʊnər diː/ ⟨Make wie hit (wie't) nu, auders mak ik hit sunner die.⟩
/dat hɑːt spɑːs mɑːkt/ ⟨Dat haat spaaz makt.⟩
/wiː høːr diː, høːrs duː uːs?/ ⟨Wie höer die, höers du uus?⟩
¹ When doubled
² ⟨z⟩ is used for a single /z/ intervocalically after a long vowel or diphthong, where single ⟨s⟩ would be read as /z/, as well as for word-final /s/ after a long vowel, where it alternates with /z/
³ After a consonant
⁴ Outside initial syllables, and also possibly to distinguish some single-syllable homophones
⁵ Used when it alternates with /æː ɑː/⁶
⁶ If I read your sentences right
⁷ /jæː/ is ⟨ia(a)⟩ after a consonant. /jɑː/ is ⟨ja(a)⟩ is all circumstances
Last edited by Lērisama on Tue Oct 13, 2026 9:57 am, edited 1 time in total.
LZ – Lēri Ziwi
PS – Proto Sāzlakuic (ancestor of LZ)
PRk – Proto Rākēwuic
XI – Xú Iạlan
VN – verbal noun
SUP – supine
DIRECT – verbal directional
My language stuff
PS – Proto Sāzlakuic (ancestor of LZ)
PRk – Proto Rākēwuic
XI – Xú Iạlan
VN – verbal noun
SUP – supine
DIRECT – verbal directional
My language stuff
Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
/m n ŋ/ <m n ng>
/p b t d k g/ <p b t d k g>
/f s ʃ x h/ <f s x ch h>
/v z/ <v z>
/w r l j/ <ü r l j>
/ɪ ʏ ʊ/ <i y u>
/ɛ œ ɔ ə/ <e ö o ë>
/a/ <a>
/iː yː uː/ <ii yy uu>
/eː øː oː/ <ee öö oo>
/æː ɑː/ <ae aa>
/ai œy ɑu/ <ai oi au>
/æːn twæː triː fjæːr fiːf sɛks seːvən axt nyːn tain/ <Aen Tüae Trii Fjaer Fiif Seks Seevën Acht Nyyn Tain>
/ɔtərs kʊnə swiːd snɛl swɪmə, mɑːr kʊnə hjæː an land snɛləɾ as ən mɛnʃ loːpə?/ <Otërs kunë süiid snel süimë, maar kunë hjae an land snelër as ën menx loopë?>
/də sʊn ʃiːnt hyːd, gɪstər ʃæːn hyː neːt/ <Dë sun xiint hyyd, gistër xaen hyy neet.>
/da lʏtə myːs sɪnd ʊndər dət bɛd/ <Dë lytë myys sind undër dët bed.>
/də tjæːf stɑːl dət broːd, də keːs ɛnd də wiːn/ <Dë tjaef staal dët brood, dë kees end dë üiin.>
/hʊk tjæːf? deː ɔf deː?/ <Huk tjaef? Dee of dee?>
/dət iːs ɪs tʏn/ <Dët iis is tyn.>
/dət wɑːtər ɪs djæːp/ <Dët üaatër is djaep.>
/dɪt huːs ɪs ɔld, dat huːs ɪs nyː/ <Dit huus is old, dat huus is nyy.>
/dɪs gɑuːs ɪs wiːt, dyː gɑus ɪs græː/ <Dis gaus is üiit, dyy gaus is grae.>
/dɪs apəl ɪs grœyn, deː apəl ɪs roːd/ <Dis apël is groin, dee apël is rood.>
/deːzə bœyk sɪnd miːn, dæː bœyk sɪnd diːn/ <Deezë boik sind miin, dae boik sind diin.>
/mɑːkə wiː hɪt nuː, ɑudərs mɑːk ɪk hɪt sʊnər diː/ <Maakë üii't nuu, audërs maak ëk't sunër dii.>
/dat hɑːt spɑːs mɑːkt/ <Dat haat spaaz maakt.>
/wiː høːr diː, høːrs duː uːs?/ <Üi höör dii, höörs duu uus?>
/p b t d k g/ <p b t d k g>
/f s ʃ x h/ <f s x ch h>
/v z/ <v z>
/w r l j/ <ü r l j>
/ɪ ʏ ʊ/ <i y u>
/ɛ œ ɔ ə/ <e ö o ë>
/a/ <a>
/iː yː uː/ <ii yy uu>
/eː øː oː/ <ee öö oo>
/æː ɑː/ <ae aa>
/ai œy ɑu/ <ai oi au>
/æːn twæː triː fjæːr fiːf sɛks seːvən axt nyːn tain/ <Aen Tüae Trii Fjaer Fiif Seks Seevën Acht Nyyn Tain>
/ɔtərs kʊnə swiːd snɛl swɪmə, mɑːr kʊnə hjæː an land snɛləɾ as ən mɛnʃ loːpə?/ <Otërs kunë süiid snel süimë, maar kunë hjae an land snelër as ën menx loopë?>
/də sʊn ʃiːnt hyːd, gɪstər ʃæːn hyː neːt/ <Dë sun xiint hyyd, gistër xaen hyy neet.>
/da lʏtə myːs sɪnd ʊndər dət bɛd/ <Dë lytë myys sind undër dët bed.>
/də tjæːf stɑːl dət broːd, də keːs ɛnd də wiːn/ <Dë tjaef staal dët brood, dë kees end dë üiin.>
/hʊk tjæːf? deː ɔf deː?/ <Huk tjaef? Dee of dee?>
/dət iːs ɪs tʏn/ <Dët iis is tyn.>
/dət wɑːtər ɪs djæːp/ <Dët üaatër is djaep.>
/dɪt huːs ɪs ɔld, dat huːs ɪs nyː/ <Dit huus is old, dat huus is nyy.>
/dɪs gɑuːs ɪs wiːt, dyː gɑus ɪs græː/ <Dis gaus is üiit, dyy gaus is grae.>
/dɪs apəl ɪs grœyn, deː apəl ɪs roːd/ <Dis apël is groin, dee apël is rood.>
/deːzə bœyk sɪnd miːn, dæː bœyk sɪnd diːn/ <Deezë boik sind miin, dae boik sind diin.>
/mɑːkə wiː hɪt nuː, ɑudərs mɑːk ɪk hɪt sʊnər diː/ <Maakë üii't nuu, audërs maak ëk't sunër dii.>
/dat hɑːt spɑːs mɑːkt/ <Dat haat spaaz maakt.>
/wiː høːr diː, høːrs duː uːs?/ <Üi höör dii, höörs duu uus?>
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Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
/m n ŋ/ m n ng
/p b t d k g/ p b t d k/ck1 g
/f s ʃ x h/ f s/z2 sch ch h
/v z/ v z
/w r l j/ w/u3 r l j/i3
/ɪ ʏ ʊ/ i ü u
/ɛ œ ɔ ə/ e/é4 ö o e
/a/ a
/iː yː uː/ i/ie ü/üe u/uu
/eː øː oː/ e/é/ee4 ö/öe o/oo
/æː ɑː/ ä/ae a/aa5
/ai œy ɑu/ ei öi äu
1coda /k/ following long vowels is ck, whereas /k/ is otherwise k.
2intervocalic /s/ is z, whereas /s/ is otherwise s.
3postvocalic /w/, /j/ are u, i, whereas /w/, /j/ are otherwise w, j.
4ultima /ɛ/, /eː/ are é, é/ee5, whereas /ɛ/, /eː/ are otherwise e, e/ee5.
5long vowels are only written as long in open syllables, and are doubled to disambiguate6.
6I don't know anything about this language beyond what is provided, but I'll romanize to the best of my understanding.
/æːn twæː triː fjæːr fiːf sɛks seːvən axt nyːn tain/
än, twae, trii, fjär, fif, séks, seeven, acht, nün, tein. (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 8, 9, 10.)
/ɔtərs kʊnə swiːd snɛl swɪmə, mɑːr kʊnə hjæː an land snɛləɾ as ən mɛnʃ loːpə?/
oters kune swid snel swime, mar kune hjae an land sneler as en ménsch loope?
/də sʊn ʃiːnt hyːd, gɪstər ʃæːn hyː neːt/
de sun schint hüd, gister schän hüe nét.
/da lʏtə myːs sɪnd ʊndər dət bɛd/
da lüte müs sind under det béd.
/də tjæːf stɑːl dət broːd, də keːs ɛnd də wiːn/
de tjäf stal det brod, de kés énd de win.
/hʊk tjæːf? deː ɔf deː?/
huk tjäf? dee of dee?
/dət iːs ɪs tʏn/
det iis is tün.
/dət wɑːtər ɪs djæːp/
det waater is djäp.
/dɪt huːs ɪs ɔld, dat huːs ɪs nyː/
dit hus is old, dat hus is nüe.
/dɪs gɑuːs ɪs wiːt, dyː gɑus ɪs græː/
dis gaus is wit, düe gaus is grae.
/dɪs apəl ɪs grœyn, deː apəl ɪs roːd/
dis apel is gröin, dee apel is rod.
/deːzə bœyk sɪnd miːn, dæː bœyk sɪnd diːn/
deeze böik sind min, dae böik sind din.
/mɑːkə wiː hɪt nuː, ɑudərs mɑːk ɪk hɪt sʊnər diː/ (although here /hɪt/ would probably be contracted to /ət/ or /t/; maybe even /mɑːk ɪk/ > /mɑːk ək/)
maake wie hit nuu, auders mack ik hik sunder die. (maake wie et nuu, auders mack ek hik sunder die. maake wie't nuu, mack ek hik sunder die.)
/dat hɑːt spɑːs mɑːkt/
dat hat spas mackt.
/wiː høːr diː, høːrs duː uːs?/
wie hör die, hörs duu us?
edit: added a few commas that I missed.
/p b t d k g/ p b t d k/ck1 g
/f s ʃ x h/ f s/z2 sch ch h
/v z/ v z
/w r l j/ w/u3 r l j/i3
/ɪ ʏ ʊ/ i ü u
/ɛ œ ɔ ə/ e/é4 ö o e
/a/ a
/iː yː uː/ i/ie ü/üe u/uu
/eː øː oː/ e/é/ee4 ö/öe o/oo
/æː ɑː/ ä/ae a/aa5
/ai œy ɑu/ ei öi äu
1coda /k/ following long vowels is ck, whereas /k/ is otherwise k.
2intervocalic /s/ is z, whereas /s/ is otherwise s.
3postvocalic /w/, /j/ are u, i, whereas /w/, /j/ are otherwise w, j.
4ultima /ɛ/, /eː/ are é, é/ee5, whereas /ɛ/, /eː/ are otherwise e, e/ee5.
5long vowels are only written as long in open syllables, and are doubled to disambiguate6.
6I don't know anything about this language beyond what is provided, but I'll romanize to the best of my understanding.
/æːn twæː triː fjæːr fiːf sɛks seːvən axt nyːn tain/
än, twae, trii, fjär, fif, séks, seeven, acht, nün, tein. (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 8, 9, 10.)
/ɔtərs kʊnə swiːd snɛl swɪmə, mɑːr kʊnə hjæː an land snɛləɾ as ən mɛnʃ loːpə?/
oters kune swid snel swime, mar kune hjae an land sneler as en ménsch loope?
/də sʊn ʃiːnt hyːd, gɪstər ʃæːn hyː neːt/
de sun schint hüd, gister schän hüe nét.
/da lʏtə myːs sɪnd ʊndər dət bɛd/
da lüte müs sind under det béd.
/də tjæːf stɑːl dət broːd, də keːs ɛnd də wiːn/
de tjäf stal det brod, de kés énd de win.
/hʊk tjæːf? deː ɔf deː?/
huk tjäf? dee of dee?
/dət iːs ɪs tʏn/
det iis is tün.
/dət wɑːtər ɪs djæːp/
det waater is djäp.
/dɪt huːs ɪs ɔld, dat huːs ɪs nyː/
dit hus is old, dat hus is nüe.
/dɪs gɑuːs ɪs wiːt, dyː gɑus ɪs græː/
dis gaus is wit, düe gaus is grae.
/dɪs apəl ɪs grœyn, deː apəl ɪs roːd/
dis apel is gröin, dee apel is rod.
/deːzə bœyk sɪnd miːn, dæː bœyk sɪnd diːn/
deeze böik sind min, dae böik sind din.
/mɑːkə wiː hɪt nuː, ɑudərs mɑːk ɪk hɪt sʊnər diː/ (although here /hɪt/ would probably be contracted to /ət/ or /t/; maybe even /mɑːk ɪk/ > /mɑːk ək/)
maake wie hit nuu, auders mack ik hik sunder die. (maake wie et nuu, auders mack ek hik sunder die. maake wie't nuu, mack ek hik sunder die.)
/dat hɑːt spɑːs mɑːkt/
dat hat spas mackt.
/wiː høːr diː, høːrs duː uːs?/
wie hör die, hörs duu us?
edit: added a few commas that I missed.
also known as, 'notenderdude' or any variation thereof.
terminally in search of who asked.
terminally in search of who asked.
Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
Wait a second, ⟨ck⟩ after long vowels, not short vowels? Likewise doubling long vowels in open syllables, not closed syllables?
Yaaludinuya siima d'at yiseka wohadetafa gaare.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.