Zompist Bboard Again

Linguoboy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2020 7:41 am I don’t understand what distinction you’re trying to indicate here.

Does your dialect merge /ʌ/ and /ə/? Because American English does that. But in Indonesian English, /ʌ/ merged with /ɑː/ instead. (It becomes [a])

3) Because it's the literal language of the literal god and the first of everything, it can actually be a little bit more logical/artificial sounding rather than messy and inconsistent (at least in my head) This lang seems very much like my own "divine proto-lang", in particular that ther...

Huh? What does that have to do with anything else in this thread? It means that conlang should aim to be weirder than average natlang. Just like a good story may be too dramatic if it were real life. Also, the suffixes look like completely made up and not coming from a word that gets accreted to an...

I’m pretty sure that ⟨y⟩ is meant to be a vowel, rather than a semivowel — it’s listed with the vowels, and used as a vowel in affixes such as ⟨yʼa-⟩ ‘distal.some’, and in words such as ⟨yku⟩ ‘bird’. You're spot on about ⟨yʼa-⟩. I just wonder why the vowel <y> is so rare, and I thought it only occu...

Looking at your example, it looks that the phoneme inventory is actually /a i u e o/ + /j/ written <a i u e o> + <y>. Also, I see that your affixes lack variety, and there is no sandhi/epenthesis/other affix variations. Tips how to make a good affix: think of an analytic construction, then do some c...

Is [Cʔ] → {C', Ƈ}, depending on the previous consonant's voicing, plausible, or would it go the other way? I couldn't find anything like it on Index Diachronica. For ejective part, it's clearly attested in Index Diachronica. (from Cayuga to Lower Cayuga). It also appears in Zuni. The implosive part...

Is there any progress in Bugs?

/pʰ p b t̪ʰ t d tʰ t d kʰ k g/ <ph p b ch c j th t d kh k g> /ʈ͡ʂʰ ʈ͡ʂ ɖ͡ʐ t͡ɕʰ t͡ɕ d͡ʑ t͡ɬʰ t͡ɬ/ <tsh ts dz tshy tsy dzy tlh tl> /m n̪ n ɲ ŋ/ <m nh n ny ng> /f s z ɕ ʐ ɬ x ɣ/ <f s z sy zh l x gh> /w ɾ j/ <w r y> /a e i u o/ <a e i u o> Length is marked by doubling the first letter.

Anyway, I don’t see why the details of syllabification are important… it just boils down to ‘syllabify normally except when you’re forced to move a consonant to the coda of the previous syllable’. Actually, it is. I thought that the vowel is automatically lengthened in an open syllable, so I wrote ...

bradrn wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 12:50 am The syllabification is entirely regular, but:

What is the rules? Because I don't get it.

bradrn wrote: ↑Tue Dec 31, 2019 11:39 pm /peʒiːŋanik jaːga.ojaːksej/
/haːzem rak peʔoːm jaːwkwaː.aːj/

This vowel is short even if the syllable is open. Also, can you give me the syllabification and morpheme boundaries? (my orthography is sensitive to these)

Another question, is there any diphthongs or vowel hiatus? (If it's not so, I aim to drop <'> intervocalically) Also, is absence of glottal stop contrastive word initially? (If it's not so, I also aim to drop <'> word initially)

bradrn wrote: ↑Tue Dec 31, 2019 6:31 am You syllabified it wrongly:

One more question, is syllabification phonemic?

For the vowels, short vowels can only appear in closed syllables (i.e. those with a coda), while long vowels can occur in any syllable. But in your sample sentence, there is short vowel in open syllables. /woːgek ʒaːgek jaːʒ gi wohnem haːz jaːwkwaː/ /jaːtsap pe ʒiːŋ jaːjar gi ziːŋwim noː seʔi kiː/

Consonants: /m n ŋ/ <m n ng> /p b t d k g ʔ/ <p b t d k g '> /s z ʃ ʒ h/ <s z x j h> /w j/ <w y> /r/ <r> Consonant is doubled intervocalically if it belongs to the coda. /ng/ <n'g> /ŋg/ <ngg> /ŋ./<nng> /n.ŋ/<n'ng> <'> word-initially. Vowels: Short vowels: /a e i o/ <a e i o> Long vowels: /aː eː iː ...

Pabappa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 8:34 am Asperger syndrome

What'? I can recognize myself in the mirror.

zompist wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 7:48 am (And some animals can do it, notably chimps, dolphins, and magpies.)

I forgot to put "some".

Is there any human disability where human cannot recognize himself on the mirror, just like how animal treat someone behind the mirror as someone else?

It turns out nonconfigurationality is not that weird. I spontaneously produced an example of phrase split into two: Jawa biasanya e nya cuma satu lalu di-gandeng sama kata sebelum-nya deh I thought Javanese usually has -e written by only one e and combined with the previous word. (Lit. Java's e is u...

Is there something about that discussion you'd like to concentrate on? Yes. It's said that the preposition gets reduced at that position. However, is the pronoun reduced too? Or is the pronoun treated as noun and gets stressed? Because if both are unstressed it results in a weird (to me) stress pat...