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by cedh
Tue May 05, 2020 4:14 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Name That Language!
Replies: 1182
Views: 446379

Re: Name That Language!

(Nort's second text is still open, and it's a good one...) No it isn’t: 2 is Agarabi in the old orthography. yes Ah, I missed this. But at least I did get the family right :-) Anyway, I found another text, although I’m not sure how hard it is: ʔuyil cnu fdix̣qac̓it. ʔa ba fdiqbaq te uyil bk̓olidit ...
by cedh
Tue May 05, 2020 3:51 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Name That Language!
Replies: 1182
Views: 446379

Re: Name That Language!

Anyway, I found another text, although I’m not sure how hard it is: ʔuyil cnu fdix̣qac̓it. ʔa ba fdiqbaq te uyil bk̓olidit ʔa. Heqada bṭeqa ʔuyi šiškidit, ʔol da fdiqas ʔa. Mṭun ʔa mey, paʔšem muṭin walqat, paʔšem muṭin ke walqat, x̣q̓omfo ʔux̣qat kʼli qat, wiy sen mey blomat, ʔumtimfo beqat. ʔaꞏba...
by cedh
Tue Apr 28, 2020 2:58 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 1333
Views: 823325

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

I've got a /i e a u/ vowel system that I'm trying to collapse into /i a u/. The easy route is just to merge /e/ with /i/ and /a/ in various environments, but that's kinda boring. Any ideas as to something more interesting I could do? Ci > Cʲi (as Pabappa suggested, maybe only for certain consonants...
by cedh
Tue Apr 28, 2020 2:34 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conlang fluency thread
Replies: 2476
Views: 1484211

Re: Conlang fluency thread

/sik ᵐbas bal ᵑɡən ˈfawət͡ɬ || məˈt͡sʰuɬ bəj ˈsuʔəɣ ⁿdəl/ 1. Sik mbas bal ŋgən fawətɬ. Mətshuɬ bəy suʔəɣ ndəl? 2. Sik mbas bal ngen fawetɬ. Me=tshuɬ bey suʔeg ndel? 3. Sik mbas bal ngen fawetł. Me chuł bey suʔeg ndel? 4. Sik mbas bal ngen fawetl. Me chulh bey sueg ndel? this new 1s POSS language. E...
by cedh
Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:49 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4724
Views: 2065792

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

I'd actually like recommendations for other books which bring together chapters on a single functional area by language experts. I would love some too — I’m always looking for such books to expand my linguistic knowledge. (I’ve even been thinking of making a thread to collect these sort of recommen...
by cedh
Thu Apr 16, 2020 10:33 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 1333
Views: 823325

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

Voiced plosives to ejectives after nasals? How? mb > bb (> ʔb) > ɓ > pʼ etc. appears to be the most likely path IMO, but I don't know if that's what happened in Sesotho. (It could be, because it would go along nicely with mp > pp > ppʰ > pʰ for the voiceless counterpart.) Would you say that mp > pp...
by cedh
Thu Apr 16, 2020 7:59 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 1333
Views: 823325

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

Through a process of pervasive devoicing affecting everything adjacent to voiceless consonants, could nasals devoice to a glottal stop? So NC clusters eventually become glottal stop + C clusters, and from there ejectives? Sesotho NP NB > Pʰ Pʼ Voiced plosives to ejectives after nasals? How? mb > bb...
by cedh
Thu Apr 16, 2020 2:54 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Triconsonantal glossing conventions
Replies: 10
Views: 6143

Re: Triconsonantal glossing conventions

So, putting it all together: h-əy<ʕ>₂ə<z>₁zən<y>₃ə́-t 1SG.NOM-give\PL.ACC<PF>₁<NEG>₂<2.DAT>₃-F.ACC I have given them to you Does that make any sense at all, or is it just too over-complex? Yes, it does make sense, and the complexity is probably necessary. A few ideas: - I would probably gloss the i...
by cedh
Wed Apr 15, 2020 2:57 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conlang Random Thread
Replies: 3024
Views: 2853342

Re: Conlang Random Thread

It's interesting that basically none of these use a dedicated construction like English "the more ... the more ...". Does this mean that people tend to avoid creating such a construction in their conlangs? And is this avoidance correlated with a lack of such a construction in most natlang...
by cedh
Mon Apr 13, 2020 5:23 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conlang Random Thread
Replies: 3024
Views: 2853342

Re: Conlang Random Thread

I was trying to do a translation of "The North Wind and the Sun" for Pñæk, and I'm still unhappy with my translation of this sentence: Then the North Wind blew as hard as he could, but the more he blew the more closely did the traveler fold his cloak around him Correlative clauses could w...
by cedh
Thu Apr 02, 2020 4:10 am
Forum: Ephemera
Topic: COVID-19 thread
Replies: 1001
Views: 460009

Re: COVID-19 thread

For anyone who's interested in seeing things through the eyes of the virus: https://xkcd.com/2287/
by cedh
Sun Mar 22, 2020 1:41 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: What is this adjective doing here?
Replies: 9
Views: 4782

Re: What is this adjective doing here?

The balloon went up so high that it was lost to sight The blow sent him flying so far that he slammed into the wall behind him [...] The verbs 'to go' and 'to send' are not copulas. If they are not copulas, they can't modify the subject. While in the 3rd sentence, it's clearly the balloon that's hi...
by cedh
Sun Mar 08, 2020 4:41 am
Forum: Ephemera
Topic: Posts from the old board
Replies: 97
Views: 65312

Re: Posts from the old board

Thanks a lot for your work!
I think we could go even more bare-bones (at least if those queries turn out to result in errors), because all we really need are the forums, topics, posts, and usernames. Things like sigs, avatars, ranks, view options, and attachments could just as well be left out IMO...
by cedh
Thu Mar 05, 2020 3:24 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Reciprocal Translation Challenge: Translate Each Other's Conlangs
Replies: 7
Views: 6855

Re: Reciprocal Translation Challenge: Translate Each Other's Conlangs

I'd love to participate in an inverse translation relay if there's enough interest! One thing to note though is that the languages must be documented fairly well for this to work, including a detailed syntax section. (Of my own conlangs, probably only Ronc Tyu has reached this level so far. Buruya N...
by cedh
Fri Feb 28, 2020 11:24 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Amusing Language Names
Replies: 162
Views: 160748

Re: Amusing Language Names

More ambiguous names! The Jarawa language is of course spoken on the Andaman Islands… unless you’re talking about Jarawa, a completely unrelated language spoken in Nigeria. You should be careful not to confuse either of these with Jarawara, an Arawan language of South America noted for its unusual ...
by cedh
Mon Feb 24, 2020 11:36 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Ergativity for Novices
Replies: 126
Views: 117344

Re: Ergativity for Novices

Also, it's worth pointing out the ergativity in English. (i.e. My reading vs Troy's destruction by the Greeks). In English, action nominals seems to have a split intransitive alignment. Compare above with "My singging the Marseillaise" But you can just as well say "The Greeks' destru...
by cedh
Sun Feb 23, 2020 4:27 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Tehemne mythology (meet the áhash!)
Replies: 41
Views: 24439

Re: Tehemne mythology (meet the áhash!)

I really like this story (and I would love to see a glossed conlang version of it ;) )!
by cedh
Fri Feb 21, 2020 1:40 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Quickie: Help be identify the correct branch of linguistics
Replies: 2
Views: 2537

Re: Quickie: Help be identify the correct branch of linguistics

For example, the language allows possessors of objects to be marked as oblique argument: e.g. she cut his hair --> she cut him the hair. This specific process is called "external possession" or "possessor raising". Here's a paper about it , which states that the process happens ...
by cedh
Sun Feb 16, 2020 12:24 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 1333
Views: 823325

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

Knit Tie wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2020 7:22 am Does VjCV, VwCV to VCjV, VCwV metathesis work as a regular sound change?
Yes, especially if there's an intermediate stage VCʲV, VCʷV.
by cedh
Sat Feb 15, 2020 8:00 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conlang Random Thread
Replies: 3024
Views: 2853342

Re: Conlang Random Thread

I've increased the restrictions on minor (unstressed) syllables in Pñæk so that in normal words the shape can only be CV and the only vowels are i, a, u, r̩, n̩. The issue is that I have a number of clitic or "particle" forms (e.g. agreement+TAM markers) which don't comply with these rule...