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- Thu Dec 26, 2019 4:29 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
- Replies: 1333
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Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Is a global shift of fricative + fricative to fricative + stop reasonable? So something like ʃs to ʃt, sx to sk, xf to xp, and so on? I already asked this: I was asking whether this is plausible for all fricative sequences. In other words, [+fric] [+fric] → [+fric] [+stop] / _ (or → [+fric] [+affri...
- Thu Dec 26, 2019 2:03 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: 'Making Up Animal Names Without Referencing Other Animals' The Game
- Replies: 54
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- Mon Dec 23, 2019 1:45 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: 'Making Up Animal Names Without Referencing Other Animals' The Game
- Replies: 54
- Views: 37106
- Wed Dec 04, 2019 2:28 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Rare/unusual natlang features
- Replies: 119
- Views: 110476
Re: Rare/unusual natlang features
I feel eponyms would persist especially well with a small speaker base, like Pitkern. In larger languages, eponyms are probably more common in specific communities; this would obviously have a larger influence on a small language. At least some of the stories/folk-etymologies behind eponyms would be...
- Wed Dec 04, 2019 2:03 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Voigari: an alternate history Romance language. (NP: irregular verbs)
- Replies: 44
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Re: L'emperu ne se finì mai : na atternativa storia é la leggua Voigare
I really like this. It feels as though it belongs somewhere in Italy, but at the same time it's very distinctive. It reminds me a little of Neapolitan (one of my favourite Romance languages) with final -u and lots of gemination including word-initial.
- Fri Nov 29, 2019 6:10 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
- Replies: 4696
- Views: 2064948
Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Another one was that some Latin words with [l:] survived in non-Castilian dialects of medieval Hispano-Romance written as <ll>, e.g. rebellem 'rebel' > reuelle , cellam 'small room' > cella , but Castilian borrowed them as /ld/ [ld] ( rebelde , celda ). Apparently there's still some evidence in mod...
- Fri Nov 29, 2019 4:05 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Factitive verbs of colour
- Replies: 15
- Views: 8546
Re: Factitive verbs of colour
I have found a paper which might be relevant - "Colour Verbs in English and Romanian" by Adina Camelia Bleotu. I haven't had time to read it, but it's available online (although the only link I can find auto-downloads it). It's the first result on a Google search. Another article about a s...
- Fri Nov 29, 2019 12:09 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Factitive verbs of colour
- Replies: 15
- Views: 8546
Re: Factitive verbs of colour
English probably isn't the best example because every colour term apart from very specific ones (like "chartreuse" or "puce") have a verbal form, either zero-derivation or using - en . Of the major colour terms, all of them apart from "red" can also function as verbs in...
- Thu Nov 28, 2019 2:47 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Factitive verbs of colour
- Replies: 15
- Views: 8546
- Thu Nov 28, 2019 1:54 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Factitive verbs of colour
- Replies: 15
- Views: 8546
Re: Factitive verbs of colour
English also has "pinken" and "greyen" (or simply "grey" as a verb) without derived *greenen or *yellowen, and according to Wiktionary "bluen" and "blonden". Having said this, only "whiten" and "blacken" go back to Middle English....
- Thu Nov 28, 2019 1:25 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
- Replies: 1333
- Views: 823224
Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread
What about going /pau̯t → pawt → paɣʷt → paxʷt → paxt/ instead? That would probably be more likely (having /gʷ/ before a voiceless stop isn't very common, unless it functions as an approximant). Albanian did the same thing (I think) except the final stage was xʷ → f instead of → x (e.g. Latin causa...
- Wed Nov 27, 2019 11:59 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
- Replies: 1333
- Views: 823224
Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Whether or not it's attested, you could explain it as /pau̯t → pawt → paɣʷt → pagʷt → pakʷt/, which looks realistic. And fortitioning offglide /u̯/ is certainly attested (e.g. Latin audiō → Aromanian avdu).
- Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:49 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Conlang Random Thread
- Replies: 3024
- Views: 2853058
- Sat Nov 23, 2019 5:42 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Project Mammoth Hunter - Help me make my first conlang
- Replies: 74
- Views: 33835
Re: Project Mammoth Hunter - Help me make my first conlang
Well, this was my idea of introducing voicing contrast in individual stops, like t/d. Let's say, that you have two stops without phonemic voicing contrast: /t~d/ and /ʈ~ɖ/. In my case, this means that voicing of these consonants is fully dependent on the context. But what happens, if the two stops ...
- Sat Nov 23, 2019 3:02 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Lexicon Building
- Replies: 429
- Views: 375227
Re: Lexicon Building
Gìsułagiese:
giavvere no' ggota legałutate /dʒavˈvɛrə nəg ˈgɔta ləˌgaɰɨˈtatə/ Literally "to have not a drop of loyalty;" to be disloyal.
Next word: ante meridian; a.m.
giavvere no' ggota legałutate /dʒavˈvɛrə nəg ˈgɔta ləˌgaɰɨˈtatə/ Literally "to have not a drop of loyalty;" to be disloyal.
Next word: ante meridian; a.m.
- Sat Nov 23, 2019 1:24 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
- Replies: 1333
- Views: 823224
Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread
According to the Index Diachronica, there's ø → oː in the sound changes from Proto-Turkic to Sakha, but I can't find a reference to that in the sources they give. There's also y → u in Tsakonian which IIRC is much better attested, and in Scots there's apparently øː → (j)u, (j)ʌ. Of course, with inte...
- Fri Nov 22, 2019 6:01 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Project Mammoth Hunter - Help me make my first conlang
- Replies: 74
- Views: 33835
Re: Project Mammoth Hunter - Help me make my first conlang
Fricatives, except for /ɬ~ɮ/, became stops It is very weird for all fricatives (or even most of them) to become stops, unconditionally . In our world, fricativelessness is an extremely uncommon areal feature confined mainly to Australia. Either make this change conditional, or exclude some more fri...
- Wed Nov 20, 2019 1:56 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Gender-neutral kin terms in English
- Replies: 2
- Views: 3929
Re: Gender-neutral kin terms in English
Regarding the etymology of ommer , I found a post on an asexuality forum here where someone suggests it comes from English eam , a dialectal word for "uncle," or related Germanic words like German Ohm , Dutch oom , ultimately from PG *awahaimaz and PIE *h₂éwh₂os . They also suggest an etym...
- Wed Nov 20, 2019 1:37 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
- Replies: 1782
- Views: 4936713
Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
Anything with a voiced consonant would seem really odd to me; I've only heard /bɐːθs/ or a variant like [bɐːfs] etc. Same with paths /pɐːθs/, which is the only rhyming word I can think of. I would also say /kləu̯ðz/ for clothes.