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- Sun May 26, 2024 7:23 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Darren's Mitsiefa Thread
- Replies: 42
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Re: Darren's Mitsiefa Thread
How's this for obscure? A five-consonant inventory used in a (partly incorrect) transliteration of Persepolitan late Elamite texts by Edward Hincks in 1846: p t k s n Modern analysis suggests more like eleven consonants – still fairly small. I like Hincks's thinking though (he added the vowels /i u ...
- Sun May 26, 2024 4:57 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Darren's Mitsiefa Thread
- Replies: 42
- Views: 6194
Re: Darren's Mitsiefa Thread
While it's a bizarre analysis, it's the biggest discrepancy between consonant phones and phonemes I've ever seen – on average more than 6 distinct realisations of each phoneme. And yes, obviously it's complete bunk. Moloko (Chadic) has a single vowel phoneme with 5 realisations, plus another 5 real...
- Sun May 26, 2024 1:48 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Darren's Mitsiefa Thread
- Replies: 42
- Views: 6194
Re: Darren's Mitsiefa Thread
An interesting case of a claimed six-consonant inventory in the Austronesian language Yuanga (New Caledonia) – Stephen J. Schooling describes it has having the following consonant phonemes: p t k f θ x But then adds onto this seven suprasegmentals – aspiration, labialisation, retroflexion, palatalis...
- Sat May 25, 2024 10:03 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Conlang Random Thread
- Replies: 3042
- Views: 2857696
Re: Conlang Random Thread
Are there any natlangs that, like my new conlang fad'ami , have a complete lack of adpositions, expressing equivalent ideas with applicatives, relational nouns, genitive case, and relative clauses? Common motifs in fad'ami include using an applicative on a verb with a relational noun belonging to a...
- Sat May 25, 2024 9:01 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Innovative Usage Thread
- Replies: 572
- Views: 662473
Re: Innovative Usage Thread
What happens with the sequence of tenses, as in standard 'I said I'd got time to spare'? Does that get replaced by 'I said I had time to spare'? Yeah, the former sounds at best very weird (although parseable). The second is what I'd usually use. I am in agreement here. I would not call the former S...
- Sat May 25, 2024 8:45 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Innovative Usage Thread
- Replies: 572
- Views: 662473
Re: Innovative Usage Thread
Interesting. Is substandard 'got' as an uninflected present similarly defective? For me, a Briton, the infinitive in this meaning.the first, a synonym of 'to have', doesn't feel natural, but the rest of the semantically present and formally perfect forms seem to exist. I think in AusEng present &qu...
- Sat May 25, 2024 8:23 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Innovative Usage Thread
- Replies: 572
- Views: 662473
Re: Innovative Usage Thread
Interesting. Is substandard 'got' as an uninflected present similarly defective? For me, a Briton, the infinitive in this meaning.the first, a synonym of 'to have', doesn't feel natural, but the rest of the semantically present and formally perfect forms seem to exist. I think in AusEng present &qu...
- Sat May 25, 2024 7:49 pm
- Forum: Ephemera
- Topic: Confusing headlines
- Replies: 702
- Views: 553387
Re: Confusing headlines
On an advert - DIY or Do It For Me
Granted I'm not confused about what they mean, but it reads horrendously
Granted I'm not confused about what they mean, but it reads horrendously
- Sat May 25, 2024 7:14 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Conlang Random Thread
- Replies: 3042
- Views: 2857696
Re: Conlang Random Thread
All languages have some way of expressing basical logical operations like "and" and "or". But I wouldn't be surprised if there were some languages without a separate word class of conjunctions. I remember hearing about some (Papuan?) language where conjunctions were just a subcla...
- Sat May 25, 2024 7:06 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Innovative Usage Thread
- Replies: 572
- Views: 662473
Re: Innovative Usage Thread
IMD "got" and "gotten" have slightly different meanings: "got" merely implies possesion, "gotten" emphasizes acquisition. E.g. "I've got the money" = I have it, it's available "I've gotten the money" = I've acquired it, recently enough tha...
- Sat May 25, 2024 6:48 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Innovative Usage Thread
- Replies: 572
- Views: 662473
Re: Innovative Usage Thread
both are true of auseng tooNortaneous wrote: ↑Sat May 25, 2024 3:34 amthe past participle of "get" is already "gotten" (and many nonstandard varieties replace the simple past of common strong verbs with the past participle)Darren wrote: ↑Sat May 25, 2024 1:05 ampray tellNortaneous wrote: ↑Sat May 25, 2024 12:56 am
i have bad news for you about the united states of america
- Sat May 25, 2024 1:08 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Language Practice (Help your fluency)
- Replies: 711
- Views: 1064421
Re: Language Practice (Help your fluency)
J’inclus la prononciation car je lutte encore avec l’orthographie. /ʒ‿ ɛ̃ kly la pʁonɔ̃siasjɔ̃ caʁ ʒə lyt ɑ̃kɔʁ avɛk l‿ɔʁtɔɡʁafi/ I am including the pronunciation as I still struggle with the orthography. Pour moi, l'orthographe n'est jamais une problème. C'est presque complètement régulière, même ...
- Sat May 25, 2024 1:05 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Innovative Usage Thread
- Replies: 572
- Views: 662473
Re: Innovative Usage Thread
pray tellNortaneous wrote: ↑Sat May 25, 2024 12:56 ami have bad news for you about the united states of america
- Sat May 25, 2024 12:46 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Brassica SCA [v0.2.0]
- Replies: 134
- Views: 81662
Re: Brassica SCA [v0.2.0]
I was trying to implement a toy version of a Northern Vanuatu-style sound change (where unstressed vowels disappear, influencing the vowel in the preceding syllable to massively increase the vowel inventory of a language). [o u] / [ø y] / _ C Frnt [i y e ø o u] / [e ø ɛ œ ɔ o] / _ C [V -Open] a / [...
- Fri May 24, 2024 11:09 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Innovative Usage Thread
- Replies: 572
- Views: 662473
Re: Innovative Usage Thread
English strong verbs have a surprising tendency to trigger analogy, despite being highly irregular themselves (I think there's probably about forty synchronic "ablaut" patterns). I have read somewhere that verbs reached (rought?) peak regularity in the 11th century and since then more weak...
- Wed May 22, 2024 4:19 am
- Forum: End Matter
- Topic: The Index Diachronica
- Replies: 221
- Views: 384738
Re: The Index Diachronica
Today the ID came up in the course of a discussion I had with Alexandre François :o Examples — it would be nice to have examples for each sound changes. This shouldn’t be too hard for any halfway reliable source, although it would make for more work. Given the hyperlinked nature of the new ID , he ...
- Sun May 19, 2024 12:35 am
- Forum: Ephemera
- Topic: A planet that moved around its star at more than 99% the speed of light.
- Replies: 10
- Views: 360
Re: A planet that moved around its star at more than 99% the speed of light.
Subbing the Roche limit into the equation for orbital velocity, you get v = sqrt(GM/(r(cbrt(2M/m))) v = orbital velocity G = 6.67 × 10^(−11) M = mass of primary r = radius of satellite m = mass of satellite To maximise the orbital velocity, we need big M and m, and small everything else (could also ...
- Sat May 18, 2024 4:09 pm
- Forum: Ephemera
- Topic: A planet that moved around its star at more than 99% the speed of light.
- Replies: 10
- Views: 360
Re: A planet that moved around its star at more than 99% the speed of light.
You could get a more reasonable distance if you're orbiting something really massive. Say you're orbiting a supermassive black hole of 500,000 solar masses at a distance of 0.005 au (460 thousand miles); your speed will approach the speed of light. And that is (self-evidently) outside the event hori...
- Wed May 15, 2024 6:42 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: English questions
- Replies: 1406
- Views: 451663
Re: English questions
But, on the other hand, the presence of -n’t seems to be key here: 3. ?? If I had not have had that cake, it would’ve gone mouldy. 4. * If I had have had that cake, it would’ve gone mouldy. Honestly 4 kinda works for me. Interesting… for me it’s completely ungrammatical, no uncertainty about it. &q...
- Wed May 15, 2024 6:38 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Word evolution game
- Replies: 2694
- Views: 278612
Re: Word evolution game
Unmotivated /s/ → /ɬ/ is attested multiple times, although areally not that widespread; Yue Chinese, some Central Tai languages, Hlai, Tanoan apparently. In SE Asia /s/ isn't as stable as it ought to be, it keeps turning into /t/ or /ɬ/ or some bullshit along those lines. edit: MiS's push chain woul...