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Horrible news on the AI front: AI actor Tilly Norwood set to star in first feature film. Slowly but surely humans are getting forced out of the arts.

malloc wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2026 8:09 pm Horrible news on the AI front: AI actor Tilly Norwood set to star in first feature film. Slowly but surely humans are getting forced out of the arts.

I wonder how likely it will be that this will be panned when it actually hits the screen. People don't want AI-generated content.

Travis B. wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2026 10:02 pm

malloc wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2026 8:09 pm Horrible news on the AI front: AI actor Tilly Norwood set to star in first feature film. Slowly but surely humans are getting forced out of the arts.

I wonder how likely it will be that this will be panned when it actually hits the screen. People don't want AI-generated content.

Nazis do - question is whether there's enough of them to make a movie succeed.

Raphael wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2026 2:35 am

Travis B. wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2026 10:02 pm

malloc wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2026 8:09 pm Horrible news on the AI front: AI actor Tilly Norwood set to star in first feature film. Slowly but surely humans are getting forced out of the arts.

I wonder how likely it will be that this will be panned when it actually hits the screen. People don't want AI-generated content.

Nazis do - question is whether there's enough of them to make a movie succeed.

Indeed, political extremists like AIs because those have no conscience and will say and do whatever the extremists want them to. A human actor who doesn't share your ideology will probably refuse to act in your film (unless you offer him so much money that he couldn't resist, but even then, he may refuse); an AI actor won't object on those grounds.

Raphael wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2026 7:15 am From the Happy Things Thread, years ago:

doctor shark wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 2:42 am Happy thing: Latest publication finally went online.

Raphael wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 12:29 pm Ok, I've only now clicked the link. So it's possible to construct synthetic cells now? Why didn't anyone tell me?

lëtzeshark wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 2:21 pm
Well, not fully, but the idea with the review is to look at the progress in replicating the functions of cells. Synthetic protocells have been pretty achievable, but full cells... well, that's Boss Man's ultimate goal, but we're quite far from that point.

Looks like now, someone's done it:

https://www.theguardian.com/science/202 ... scientists

Ex-Boss Man knows the researcher (and was invited to a symposium hosted by her!), so this is a group that I'm not unfamiliar with. Cool to see that it is bearing fruit, though there's always the question of "what's next"...

lëtzeshark wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2026 4:10 am though there's always the question of "what's next"...

Yes, obviously they'll try to make gray goo next.

Raphael wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2026 2:35 am

Travis B. wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2026 10:02 pm

malloc wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2026 8:09 pm Horrible news on the AI front: AI actor Tilly Norwood set to star in first feature film. Slowly but surely humans are getting forced out of the arts.

I wonder how likely it will be that this will be panned when it actually hits the screen. People don't want AI-generated content.

Nazis do - question is whether there's enough of them to make a movie succeed.

Thing is, everywhere I look I see largely negative reactions to AI slop. The public at large does not want AI slop. So regardless of the quality or lack thereof of this AI-generated movie content, just the fact that it is openly made with AI is liable to lead to its being panned.

lëtzeshark wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2026 4:10 am
Ex-Boss Man knows the researcher (and was invited to a symposium hosted by her!), so this is a group that I'm not unfamiliar with. Cool to see that it is bearing fruit, though there's always the question of "what's next"...

Thank you for that background information!

Travis B. wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2026 8:36 am

lëtzeshark wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2026 4:10 am though there's always the question of "what's next"...

Yes, obviously they'll try to make gray goo next.

Indeed. The fluorescent pink hydra will probably come much later.

I'm reminded of a review of Avatar which memorably commented that it "confirms what we thought, that computers can recreate bad acting".

@malloc: what do you think all those unemployed actors are going to be doing once AI takes over? Sitting around grumbling about the good old days?

Travis B. wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2026 10:02 pm

malloc wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2026 8:09 pm Horrible news on the AI front: AI actor Tilly Norwood set to star in first feature film. Slowly but surely humans are getting forced out of the arts.

I wonder how likely it will be that this will be panned when it actually hits the screen. People don't want AI-generated content.

yeah, but they'll possibly swallow it all the same, with enough marketing.

what really creeps me out is the language. there is no tilly norwood to speak of, there is no one starring in that flick. the flick is generated by a model. there is no "AI actor" cause model files aren't actors, they're at most brands.... and okay, sure, actors are already brands, but still. it's like the entire ruling class has decided that convincing people that models, chatbots, etcetera are persons is in their interest. and like... they're probably gonna succeed: it's disturbingly easy to convince humans that non-humans are humans, than not-people are people. no need to even look at religions, hell, even two coins and a twig can look like a person to our eyes. they will probably not need that much marketing

Torco wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2026 6:36 pmwhat really creeps me out is the language. there is no tilly norwood to speak of, there is no one starring in that flick. the flick is generated by a model. there is no "AI actor" cause model files aren't actors, they're at most brands.... and okay, sure, actors are already brands, but still. it's like the entire ruling class has decided that convincing people that models, chatbots, etcetera are persons is in their interest. and like... they're probably gonna succeed: it's disturbingly easy to convince humans that non-humans are humans, than not-people are people. no need to even look at religions, hell, even two coins and a twig can look like a person to our eyes. they will probably not need that much marketing

Quite. They have permanently made the world worse, all to save themselves some money. We must stop beating around the bush and acknowledge that this technology directly attacks our quality of life and dignity.

alice wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2026 2:45 pm@malloc: what do you think all those unemployed actors are going to be doing once AI takes over? Sitting around grumbling about the good old days?

Presumably they'll have to find another line of work, undoubtedly less appealing with lower pay and considerable competition from everyone else losing their jobs to AI.

Torco wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2026 6:36 pm what really creeps me out is the language. there is no tilly norwood to speak of, there is no one starring in that flick. the flick is generated by a model. there is no "AI actor" cause model files aren't actors, they're at most brands.... and okay, sure, actors are already brands, but still. it's like the entire ruling class has decided that convincing people that models, chatbots, etcetera are persons is in their interest. and like... they're probably gonna succeed: it's disturbingly easy to convince humans that non-humans are humans, than not-people are people. no need to even look at religions, hell, even two coins and a twig can look like a person to our eyes. they will probably not need that much marketing

Blatant regnism!

... as in reification? idgi

I'm surprised people don't understand how NORMAL all this is. This thing that keeps happening? This has been the success criterion for societies in the last few centuries.

rotting bones wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2026 12:47 am I'm surprised people don't understand how NORMAL all this is. This thing that keeps happening? This has been the success criterion for societies in the last few centuries.

I'm not sure I follow you. But I agree that businessmen doing provocative and stupid publicity stunts are nothing new.

I'm extremely dubious about the results.

Ares Land wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2026 2:09 am

rotting bones wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2026 12:47 am I'm surprised people don't understand how NORMAL all this is. This thing that keeps happening? This has been the success criterion for societies in the last few centuries.

I'm not sure I follow you. But I agree that businessmen doing provocative and stupid publicity stunts are nothing new.

I'm extremely dubious about the results.

Flooding the market with inferior products to make a few bucks here and there, thereby throwing workers under the bus. The capitalist plan is to deskill the alternatives to make themselves indispensable. This strategy has worked for them in the past. (I don't know whether it will work this time, though I have been posting my speculations for years.)

That's what we call "progress". Outside aberrations like the Soviet Union (dismissed as unsophisticated thinking) or even Sweden (which we're told is an atrocity where unfortunate white people are exploited by murderous poor people), leaders have never believed that pure science or improving quality constitutes progress. (See The Power Elite, for example.)

For decades, capitalists have been telling us their idea of progress involves "quantity over quality" by definition. (Randians have been particularly loud about it.) The only new thing is that "progress" is currently threatening professions that their adherents believed were protected by human exceptionalism.

One thing LLMs can't do is humor. I recently found a nice German example. There is this little joke:

Treffen sich zwei Jäger im Wald. Beide tot.
'Two huntsmen meet/hit each other in the forest. Both dead.'

This works because of the dual meaning of treffen. An LLM asked to reproduce this joke produced:

Begegnen sich zwei Jäger im Wald. Beide tot.

This version doesn't work because begegnen can only mean 'to meet', not 'to hit'. There is nothing funny about this.

WeepingElf wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2026 3:13 am One thing LLMs can't do is humor. I recently found a nice German example. There is this little joke:

Treffen sich zwei Jäger im Wald. Beide tot.
'Two huntsmen meet/hit each other in the forest. Both dead.'

This works because of the dual meaning of treffen. An LLM asked to reproduce this joke produced:

Begegnen sich zwei Jäger im Wald. Beide tot.

This version doesn't work because begegnen can only mean 'to meet', not 'to hit'. There is nothing funny about this.

*chuckle*