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Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2020 1:35 pm
by fusijui
OK, something quick and easy to nudge things along:
Mese feskede, te uwa dolume, dafsuN muku' dolume, ijyaremi. DafsuN muku' aceneme da, tateme xene syaN yawemi. DafsuN muku' lawdu dolume da, tateme syaN yawequ, caqajemi li. Ere dafsuN muku'ni saxunuN muku'. Muku' qomsu lawduwe tame ijyalemi. Muku' lawdu dolume, tateme ojuqu. UyaN omi. Muku' doluXe amele, uwa ijyalemi.

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2020 2:56 pm
by dewrad
fusijui wrote: Fri Jun 19, 2020 1:35 pm OK, something quick and easy to nudge things along:
Mese feskede, te uwa dolume, dafsuN muku' dolume, ijyaremi. DafsuN muku' aceneme da, tateme xene syaN yawemi. DafsuN muku' lawdu dolume da, tateme syaN yawequ, caqajemi li. Ere dafsuN muku'ni saxunuN muku'. Muku' qomsu lawduwe tame ijyalemi. Muku' lawdu dolume, tateme ojuqu. UyaN omi. Muku' doluXe amele, uwa ijyalemi.
Tungusic? I want to say Manchu, but I'm assuming that it's not (unless the romanisation is seriously quirky)

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 9:33 pm
by fusijui
Tungusic, yes... sorry for the slow response...

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 9:51 pm
by bradrn
What do capital ⟨N⟩ and ⟨X⟩ represent in the sample text?

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 6:45 am
by Frislander
The vowel system seems on the simple side, so is this a rendition of Xibe?

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 12:24 pm
by fusijui
Xibo it is! Next up?

Bradrn: Uvular nasals & fricatives, IIRC.

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 6:22 am
by Frislander
Oh wow lol, didn't realise I'd got it, anyway here's the next one (it's a poem so the backslashes are line breaks).
Pusha Magh na Khyari ngyabo/Ling palma na sagun ngyabo/dhon puru tata tosya puru jhajha/woicha lai kappo thaal syang phaannan na tite tiwar/chhaigo swabo, lapsol swabo, musya koya phibo/aaul bhannaam tainga woche ngwanai sya yang rung kheche.

yim puru syala kheke chhangma dhongnan,/Golan puru thutu chhangma dhongnan/simi puru syang phannan tite tiwa swabo/chhaigo swabo, lapsol swabo, musya koya phibo/aaul bhannaam tainga woche ngwanai sya yang tamma kheche

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 6:24 am
by bradrn
Frislander wrote: Wed Jun 24, 2020 6:22 am Oh wow lol, didn't realise I'd got it, anyway here's the next one (it's a poem so the backslashes are line breaks).
Pusha Magh na Khyari ngyabo/Ling palma na sagun ngyabo/dhon puru tata tosya puru jhajha/woicha lai kappo thaal syang phaannan na tite tiwar/chhaigo swabo, lapsol swabo, musya koya phibo/aaul bhannaam tainga woche ngwanai sya yang rung kheche.

yim puru syala kheke chhangma dhongnan,/Golan puru thutu chhangma dhongnan/simi puru syang phannan tite tiwa swabo/chhaigo swabo, lapsol swabo, musya koya phibo/aaul bhannaam tainga woche ngwanai sya yang tamma kheche
Reformatted in case anyone else dislikes the backslashes:
Pusha Magh na Khyari ngyabo
Ling palma na sagun ngyabo
dhon puru tata tosya puru jhajha
woicha lai kappo thaal syang phaannan na tite tiwar
chhaigo swabo, lapsol swabo, musya koya phibo
aaul bhannaam tainga woche ngwanai sya yang rung kheche.

yim puru syala kheke chhangma dhongnan,
Golan puru thutu chhangma dhongnan
simi puru syang phannan tite tiwa swabo
chhaigo swabo, lapsol swabo, musya koya phibo
aaul bhannaam tainga woche ngwanai sya yang tamma kheche
Now let me guess: Sino-Tibetan?

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 6:26 am
by Frislander
bradrn wrote: Wed Jun 24, 2020 6:24 amNow let me guess: Sino-Tibetan?
Correct.

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 6:29 am
by bradrn
Frislander wrote: Wed Jun 24, 2020 6:26 am
bradrn wrote: Wed Jun 24, 2020 6:24 amNow let me guess: Sino-Tibetan?
Correct.
Oh, good! I like guessing Sino-Tibetan languages. :)

Now: do the digraphs ⟨bh dh jh⟩ represent voiced aspirates/breathy voiced stops? If so, that should narrow it down a bit.

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 7:28 am
by Frislander
bradrn wrote: Wed Jun 24, 2020 6:29 am
Frislander wrote: Wed Jun 24, 2020 6:26 am
bradrn wrote: Wed Jun 24, 2020 6:24 amNow let me guess: Sino-Tibetan?
Correct.
Oh, good! I like guessing Sino-Tibetan languages. :)

Now: do the digraphs ⟨bh dh jh⟩ represent voiced aspirates/breathy voiced stops? If so, that should narrow it down a bit.
I have no reason not to think so given what I know about where the language is situated.

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:31 am
by Karch
Is it some Kiranti language from Nepal?

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 9:12 am
by Frislander
Karch wrote: Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:31 am Is it some Kiranti language from Nepal?
Nepal yes, Kiranti no

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 9:16 am
by bradrn
Frislander wrote: Thu Jun 25, 2020 9:12 am
Karch wrote: Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:31 am Is it some Kiranti language from Nepal?
Nepal yes, Kiranti no
Another guess: Newari?

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 9:17 am
by Frislander
bradrn wrote: Thu Jun 25, 2020 9:16 am
Frislander wrote: Thu Jun 25, 2020 9:12 am
Karch wrote: Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:31 am Is it some Kiranti language from Nepal?
Nepal yes, Kiranti no
Another guess: Newari?
No again

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 9:19 am
by bradrn
Frislander wrote: Thu Jun 25, 2020 9:17 am
bradrn wrote: Thu Jun 25, 2020 9:16 am
Frislander wrote: Thu Jun 25, 2020 9:12 am

Nepal yes, Kiranti no
Another guess: Newari?
No again
Dhimal then?

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:11 am
by Frislander
bradrn wrote: Thu Jun 25, 2020 9:19 am
Frislander wrote: Thu Jun 25, 2020 9:17 am
bradrn wrote: Thu Jun 25, 2020 9:16 am

Another guess: Newari?
No again
Dhimal then?
Nope

(I'm quite glad, this is my first sample that hasn't been guessed outright in ages).

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:12 am
by bradrn
Frislander wrote: Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:11 am
bradrn wrote: Thu Jun 25, 2020 9:19 am
Frislander wrote: Thu Jun 25, 2020 9:17 am

No again
Dhimal then?
Nope

(I'm quite glad, this is my first sample that hasn't been guessed outright in ages).
Is it at least Himalayish?

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:16 am
by Frislander
bradrn wrote: Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:12 am
Frislander wrote: Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:11 am
bradrn wrote: Thu Jun 25, 2020 9:19 am

Dhimal then?
Nope

(I'm quite glad, this is my first sample that hasn't been guessed outright in ages).
Is it at least Himalayish?
It's classfication is slightly uncertain but Himalayish doesn't appear to be a group it's been put in.

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:20 am
by bradrn
Frislander wrote: Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:16 am
bradrn wrote: Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:12 am
Frislander wrote: Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:11 am

Nope

(I'm quite glad, this is my first sample that hasn't been guessed outright in ages).
Is it at least Himalayish?
It's classfication is slightly uncertain but Himalayish doesn't appear to be a group it's been put in.
Bodic then?

(At this point I don’t really have a clue what it could be, and I’m just guessing in the hope that I eventually find the right branch…)