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Re: Conlang fluency thread
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2026 4:12 pm
by Imralu
Pedant wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2026 5:43 pm
Imralu wrote: ↑Sun Sep 13, 2026 4:03 pm
Pedant wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2026 12:56 amKai tar Bairar Keurar gar?
Q.POS this-F-SUBJ Sea.Panther-MASC Black-MASC in
“Wasn’t it in
Black Panther?”
Ha mbimba bara dwo u ya zwara?
Sea panther?
Nappor - tasar iakta-i alsedos masokos Insodonen peusanos. (Pantheian ektaian hyko.)
1s-nod.yes-PRES.IND.ACT / this-COM-SUBJ.S type-CONST.S otter-NOM.S giant-COM-NOM.S Trithalassic-OBJ.S inhabit-PRES.ACT.PART-COM-NOM.S / Panther-OBJ.PL genuine-MASC-OBJ.PL 3p-lack-PRES.IND.ACT
"Yep - it's a kind of giant otter living in the Trithalassic. (They don't have actual panthers.)"
U ha nevwei mbimba bara dwo u ya bu, do dwei nge sea.panther land, ha?
If they saw a panther, then they'd call it a sea.panther land, wouldn't they?
Re: Conlang fluency thread
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2026 9:39 pm
by Travis B.
KamareKitsune wrote: ↑Sun Sep 13, 2026 6:58 am
it "lu" śu ćusər sade qunp lanət. tak laġna ciþat iś śi ar liyi šetan nusuzzən in laħ mwiti źpisi.
"lu" is a sentential enclitic that marks emphasis. It is often used to allow indefinite subjects by creating cleft sentences.
[χaˈpʰẽnə ˈjɐɲ nəβəʃˈjɐr ˈẽnə]
/χɑˈpʰẽnɐ ˈjɐɲ nɐβɐʃˈjɐr ˈẽnɐ/
Xàpéñna yáň navašyár éñna.
Emphasis mine.
[ˈẽnə ˈjɐɲ nəˈβɐʎðə ˈχaːt̪ʰʊpʰə ˈt̪ʰorɲɪ bəjˈtsʼoːjə rɛˈhɐʎɪ həjˈɣermɪ ˈkʰupʰr]
/ˈẽnɐ ˈjɐɲ nɐˈβɐʎðɐ ˈχaːt̪ʰupʰɐ ˈt̪ʰorɲi bɐjˈtsʼoːjɐ reˈhɐʎi hɐjˈɣermɪ ˈkʰupʰr/
Éñna yáñ naváľđa xâatupa tórňi bayts'óoya reháľi haygjérmi kúpr.
I find the use of thorns by non-Germanic languages to be cute.
Re: Conlang fluency thread
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2026 7:58 am
by KamareKitsune
Travis B. wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2026 9:39 pm
[ˈẽnə ˈjɐɲ nəˈβɐʎðə ˈχaːt̪ʰʊpʰə ˈt̪ʰorɲɪ bəjˈtsʼoːjə rɛˈhɐʎɪ həjˈɣermɪ ˈkʰupʰr]
/ˈẽnɐ ˈjɐɲ nɐˈβɐʎðɐ ˈχaːt̪ʰupʰɐ ˈt̪ʰorɲi bɐjˈtsʼoːjɐ reˈhɐʎi hɐjˈɣermɪ ˈkʰupʰr/
Éñna yáñ naváľđa xâatupa tórňi bayts'óoya reháľi haygjérmi kúpr.
I find the use of thorns by non-Germanic languages to be cute.
re tu ke sućsurət, re tu ke sučwuḫət?
In a positive way or a negative way?
ġaya imu wtakət imayeŋuzli ala, cawa imu hšarət imi þaśa wtakət tu wune þaśatət ini þorn.
I am quite fond of interdental fricatives, and I find thorn aesthetic for writing the voiceless fricative in a single character.
Re: Conlang fluency thread
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2026 10:40 am
by Travis B.
KamareKitsune wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2026 7:58 am
Travis B. wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2026 9:39 pm
[ˈẽnə ˈjɐɲ nəˈβɐʎðə ˈχaːt̪ʰʊpʰə ˈt̪ʰorɲɪ bəjˈtsʼoːjə rɛˈhɐʎɪ həjˈɣermɪ ˈkʰupʰr]
/ˈẽnɐ ˈjɐɲ nɐˈβɐʎðɐ ˈχaːt̪ʰupʰɐ ˈt̪ʰorɲi bɐjˈtsʼoːjɐ reˈhɐʎi hɐjˈɣermɪ ˈkʰupʰr/
Éñna yáñ naváľđa xâatupa tórňi bayts'óoya reháľi haygjérmi kúpr.
I find the use of thorns by non-Germanic languages to be cute.
re tu ke sućsurət, re tu ke sučwuḫət?
In a positive way or a negative way?
ġaya imu wtakət imayeŋuzli ala, cawa imu hšarət imi þaśa wtakət tu wune þaśatət ini þorn.
I am quite fond of interdental fricatives, and I find thorn aesthetic for writing the voiceless fricative in a single character.
Hit hang daarfan af, of hit guud oder nicht skain.
It depends on whether it looks good or not.
Re: Conlang fluency thread
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2026 1:37 pm
by jal
Travis B. wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2026 10:40 amHit hang daarfan af, of hit guud oder nicht skain.
It depends on whether it looks good or not.
Dis a notisful sentm bil, "guud oder nicht skain", kos nekit "nicht" fwonsay bahp ya.
This is an interesting construction, "guud oder nicht skain", because of the bare "nicht" in front of the verb.
JAL
Re: Conlang fluency thread
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2026 2:20 pm
by Travis B.
jal wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2026 1:37 pm
Travis B. wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2026 10:40 amHit hang daarfan af, of hit guud oder nicht skain.
It depends on whether it looks good or not.
Dis a notisful sentm bil, "guud oder nicht skain", kos nekit "nicht" fwonsay bahp ya.
This is an interesting construction, "guud oder nicht skain", because of the bare "nicht" in front of the verb.
Ik was nicht seker, hu ik dis seggen wurde.
I was not sure how I'd say this.
Re: Conlang fluency thread
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2026 2:47 pm
by xxx
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(man inventing words maybe based on words of very many man and having to be known by this man and maybe not based on this words having not to be known by this man...)
a posteriori conlangs require extensive knowledge of natural languages, unlike a priori conlangs...
Re: Conlang fluency thread
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2026 9:20 pm
by Imralu
Travis B. wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2026 2:20 pm
jal wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2026 1:37 pm
Travis B. wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2026 10:40 amHit hang daarfan af, of hit guud oder nicht skain.
It depends on whether it looks good or not.
Dis a notisful sentm bil, "guud oder nicht skain", kos nekit "nicht" fwonsay bahp ya.
This is an interesting construction, "guud oder nicht skain", because of the bare "nicht" in front of the verb.
Ik was nicht seker, hu ik dis seggen wurde.
I was not sure how I'd say this.
...
of hit guud skain, oder nicht seems the most natural to me. A phrase introduced by a conjunction can easily go into the
Nachfeld. In German
ob es gut/schön ist/aussieht, oder nicht is the most natural word order.
I remember in a German class years ago, someone kept trying to say
ob oder nicht ... at the beginning of a clause because
whether or not is a thing in English.
Re: Conlang fluency thread
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2026 9:52 pm
by Imralu
xxx wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2026 2:47 pma posteriori conlangs require extensive knowledge of natural languages, unlike a priori conlangs...
Ndwinge zyi Travis B.-i zyeu byo ngai ndwi Dyamani Pendziyoveniya u zyei yui gi dzo Nggilisyi.
Travis's language reminds me of Pennsylvania German because it's a bit influenced by English.
Narei mwe mu zyi u nwagi zyei yu narei mwenge ndwinge Dyamaniki Lwa.
We can only see that because we know other West Germanic languages.
Wi ndwinge ye myegi dzo nozyo do, i ze bana dwa zyu we byai muvwe zyu hai ndwa hai ze.
With a priori
languages, it's not so easy for others to recognise whether it is or it isn't.
Nai nggwa vwe zyu ndwinge dzozye u ye myegi dzo nozyoi zwe nwa dyinge u dei dyigodyi ye welativi u ye gwe saborineta do nai zyu ha ngo zye zyi mu myegi a Nggilisyi gwe ndwinge womandzi
I sometimes see that an a priori
conlang has one word which is both a relative pronoun and the subordinator/complementiser, and I wonder whether its creator knows only English and a Romance language.
He ze vwevwi zyi ndwinge zyi Travis.
Don't judge Travis's language.
Ze ngarei mu zyu ha de u wai ngegyo zyii bya ya vwi nggwendwa.
None of us know whether what you write is anything other than meaningless slop.
EDIT:
Nai zi bo no zyina ndzwa u byoi ndwinge wo. Wi Nggilisyi do, wai giba ndzwenge.
I meant that about your conlang. When you write the English, you're quite poetic.
Re: Conlang fluency thread
Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2026 1:11 am
by xxx
He ze vwevwi zyi ndwinge zyi Travis.
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(my inability to deny the word of man named like your leg wraps, and my inability to speak like men who frequently eat sausage and liquid seen as piss...)
how could I judge Travis, I who don't speak a word of German...
Ze ngarei mu zyu ha de u wai ngegyo zyii bya ya vwi nggwendwa.
wËÁw;¼o^Q¼ÍwËÁ
(our words only comprehensible through the breath flowing through our thoughts...)
our words only have meaning through the breath of the Muses...
Re: Conlang fluency thread
Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2026 9:25 am
by Travis B.
Main spraak is en mengeling fan hoogdütisk, nederlandisk, nederdütisk, and englisk, and main muderspraak is englisk...
My language is a mix of High German, Dutch, Low German, and English, and my native language is English.
Re: Conlang fluency thread
Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2026 7:25 pm
by Pedant
Imralu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2026 4:12 pm
Pedant wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2026 5:43 pm
Nappor - tasar iakta-i alsedos masokos Insodonen peusanos. (Pantheian ektaian hyko.)
1s-nod.yes-PRES.IND.ACT / this-COM-SUBJ.S type-CONST.S otter-NOM.S giant-COM-NOM.S Trithalassic-OBJ.S inhabit-PRES.ACT.PART-COM-NOM.S / Panther-OBJ.PL genuine-MASC-OBJ.PL 3p-lack-PRES.IND.ACT
"Yep - it's a kind of giant otter living in the Trithalassic. (They don't have actual panthers.)"
U ha nevwei mbimba bara dwo u ya bu, do dwei nge sea.panther land, ha?
If they saw a panther, then they'd call it a sea.panther land, wouldn't they?
La-pilirna - bairoir tikopeusanoi.
NEG-need-3s-PRES.IND.PASS / sea.panther-PL-SUBJ equal-inhabit-PRES.ACT.PART-PL-NOM
"Not necessarily -
bairoi are amphibious."
Re: Conlang fluency thread
Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2026 2:27 am
by Imralu
Pedant wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2026 7:25 pmLa-pilirna - bairoir tikopeusanoi.
NEG-need-3s-PRES.IND.PASS / sea.panther-PL-SUBJ equal-inhabit-PRES.ACT.PART-PL-NOM
"Not necessarily -
bairoi are amphibious."
Zyenggyui zenggwa bi. Mbwei mwe zobwe.
Horrors never cease. The danger can follow you.
Re: Conlang fluency thread
Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2026 6:37 am
by jal
Imralu wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2026 9:20 pm...
of hit guud skain, oder nicht seems the most natural to me.
O, it me, of hit guud oder nicht guud skain.
Or, perhaps,
of hit guud oder nicht guud skain.
JAL
Re: Conlang fluency thread
Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2026 5:22 pm
by Pedant
Imralu wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2026 2:27 am
Pedant wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2026 7:25 pmLa-pilirna - bairoir tikopeusanoi.
NEG-need-3s-PRES.IND.PASS / sea.panther-PL-SUBJ equal-inhabit-PRES.ACT.PART-PL-NOM
"Not necessarily -
bairoi are amphibious."
Zyenggyui zenggwa bi. Mbwei mwe zobwe.
Horrors never cease. The danger can follow you.
Kahamakaraktha:
Hai mār, guredhrodi davat khyatur. Vai mibjai - chhagadrokñanasa tsnur Sayinthamh.
Alas / ESS-many-wild.animal-PL that-like world-LOC / and.SAME more-scare-3pE / at.one.point-dangerous.thing-tell.story-CAUS-IMPERAT-1sA-2sA terror.bird-COLL Sayintha-GEN
"Oh, there's a
lot of creatures like that on Tjarral. Scarier, too - remind me to tell you about the terror birds of Sayintha sometime."
Re: Conlang fluency thread
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2026 3:15 am
by jal
Pedant wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2026 5:22 pm"Oh, there's a
lot of creatures like that on Tjarral. Scarier, too - remind me to tell you about the terror birds of Sayintha sometime."
Dem oritnis bah a Sayinta? Son meri bisnis! 
The terror birds of Sayintha? Sounds like fun!
JAL
Re: Conlang fluency thread
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2026 12:24 pm
by Pedant
jal wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2026 3:15 am
Pedant wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2026 5:22 pm"Oh, there's a
lot of creatures like that on Tjarral. Scarier, too - remind me to tell you about the terror birds of Sayintha sometime."
Dem oritnis bah a Sayinta? Son meri bisnis! 
The terror birds of Sayintha? Sounds like fun!
JAL
Eralca:
Ziu, nho grafuri zebi o nhagurti. Casoari xurni, túl giotol ú xén tel onhê nhaugu venu zebu.
[expected.internal.fear/compassion] / for.3p dangerous-PL several-PL 3p terror-bird-PL / cassowary-PL akin-PL / [TFFF.sentence.result] eat-ATEL.GNOM.ACT 3pS.3sO meat [TFFF.sentence.cause] 3pS-for.3s largeness thick-HOT several-HOT
"Yeah, sorry about this - the nhagurtas are quite dangerous. Like cassowaries, but they eat meat and are
way bigger."
Re: Conlang fluency thread
Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2026 1:52 pm
by /ˌnɐˈɾɛndɚduːd/
Pedant wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2026 12:24 pm
"Yeah, sorry about this - the nhagurtas are quite dangerous. Like cassowaries, but they eat meat and are
way bigger."
Pheḫniki Iḫosni, iḫosref luthep, kufemsâref maqkunref nuf hutes Mâkhoqefrel fames.
[pʰɛxˈnici iˈxosni | iˈxosɾɛf luˈˈtʰɛp | kufɛmsæɾɛf maʔkunɾɛf nuf hutɛs mækʰoʔɛfɾɛl famɛs]
pheḫni-k-i Iḫos-n-i | iḫos-r-f luthep | kufemsâ-r-f maqkin-r-f nu-f hutes Mâkhoqef-r-l fames
desert-GEN-DEF Iḫos-LOC-DEF | person-PL-NOM say.PRS | wurm-PL-NOM giant-PL-NOM 3-NOM be.called.PRS Mâkhoqef-PL-ACC exist.PRS
In the Iḫosan desert, people say, there are giant wurms called Mâkhoqefs.
Khef qate sarthoḫel ânefal nuf hutes Iḫosel.
[kʰɛf ʔaˈtɛ saɾˈtʰoxɛl æˈnɛfal nuf hutɛs ixosɛl]
khe-f qate surthoḫ-l ânefa-l nu-f hutes Iḫos-l
1-NOM make.PRS language-ACC new-ACC 3-NOM be.called.PRS Iḫos-ACC
I am making a new language called Iḫos.
Re: Conlang fluency thread
Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2026 9:06 pm
by DorotheaBrooke
Šar nenuarakčasaħi nette Iħošči?
šar ne-nu-arak-0-čas-a-ħi net-te Iħos-či
what.NOM think-CAUS-mouth-3p.SG-CIS-PFV-Q 2p.SG-ACC Iḫos-VIA
"What inspired you to think of Iḫos?" (Lit. What made you think up Iḫos?")
Ħu nenu mač Semitikarakattučinaki.
ħu ne-nu-0 1p.SG.ACC Semitik-arakat-Cu-či
3p.SG think-CAUS-3p.SG-PROG Semitic-language-PL-VIA-DIST.VIS
"It makes me think of the Semitic languages."
Arakatux nuki Saxunat.
arakat-ux nuki Saxunat
language-PROX.INVIS be.INVIS Saxú-AUG-quality
"This language is Saxunese."
Uteuppernenux oiepkxirče mitte, ŋapapa.
ute=upperne-Cu-ux oi-ep-kxir-če mikx-te napa-pa
GNOM=saxunese.people-PL-PROX.INVIS have-NEG-animal-3p.PL scary-ACC honor-IMP
"The Saxunese (lit. islanders) don't have any scary animals, thankfully."
Uteswamet ernenu fin.
ute=swamet erne-Cu finn-0
GNOM-only person-PL exist-3p.SG
"Just people."
Re: Conlang fluency thread
Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2026 11:36 pm
by Imralu
[ˌnɔˈɾɛndədʉːd̚ wrote: post_id=113273 time=1790880728 user_id=538]
Pheḫniki Iḫosni, iḫosref luthep, kufemsâref maqkunref nuf hutes Mâkhoqefrel fames.
[pʰɛxˈnici iˈxosni | iˈxosɾɛf luˈˈtʰɛp | kufɛmsæɾɛf maʔkunɾɛf nuf hutɛs mækʰoʔɛfɾɛl famɛs]
pheḫni-k-i Iḫos-n-i | iḫos-r-f luthep | kufemsâ-r-f maqkin-r-f nu-f hutes Mâkhoqef-r-l fames
desert-GEN-DEF Iḫos-LOC-DEF | person-PL-NOM say.PRS | wurm-PL-NOM giant-PL-NOM 3-NOM be.called.PRS Mâkhoqef-PL-ACC exist.PRS
In the Iḫosan desert, people say, there are giant wurms called Mâkhoqefs.
Wurm-i ze dyinge Nggilisyi. Ha wai zi bo no ndzwa nyahwi u haze doqo dyagini.
Wurm is not an English word. Did you mean
worm or
dragon (
wyrm)?
Nai zyu nai mu mbya ngingi u byoi nyahwi ye bara ye lu bu nggwezwa.
I think I know a story about giant worms in a desert.