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Re: Word evolution game
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2025 9:34 am
by Travis B.
Let's try to avoid summarily removing whole CV (or greater) syllables from words just because we can...
(As a more minor quibble, obvious affricates are single segments, not segment pairs, even if we write them with multiple IPA symbols without ties.)
Re: Word evolution game
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2025 10:06 am
by /ˌnɐˈɾɛndɚduːd/
oops. I effed up that post, sorry! I've edited it to what I intended to type.
Re: Word evolution game
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2025 10:13 am
by Travis B.
/ˌnɐ.ˈɾɛn.dɚ.ˌduːd/ wrote: ↑Tue Nov 04, 2025 10:06 am
oops. I effed up that post, sorry! I've edited it to what I intended to type.
I see two sets of brackets in the IPA now, which I assume you didn't intend.
Re: Word evolution game
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2025 11:11 am
by /ˌnɐˈɾɛndɚduːd/
...what I intended1...
1 for the most part, anyways. I've fixed it again, but hopefully the idea made it across the first time.
Re: Word evolution game
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2025 1:01 pm
by Travis B.
[ˈsowetʃø]
cöj
‘a type of domestic marsupial resembling a fox’
Breaking of long rounded fron vowels.
[ˈdjýʑ]
notchi
‘grounds, plot of land; habitat, native environs; country’
Fronting of vowels before (alveolo)palatal consonants.
[məˈmbbɔwɛ̯]
zhbme
‘swordfight, duel, trial by sword; rivalry, debate’
Prenasalization of voiced geminates.
[ˈɕeːɮɛ‿ɛˈɢæ̤ð]
séi'hle wǫgád
‘wash clothing’
Shift of patalalized alveolars to alveolopalatal consonants.
[ˈɲɟaʈʂəɽːe]
njathazhdirö
‘a type of sign which indicates a business is open’
[ɽr] > [ɽː]
Re: Word evolution game
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2025 5:49 pm
by Man in Space
[ˈsogetʃø]
cöj
‘a type of domestic marsupial resembling a fox’
Intervocalic glide fortition
[ˈdjŷ]
notchi
‘grounds, plot of land; habitat, native environs; country’
Coda fricatives > falling tone
[m̩bbɔwɛ̯]
zhbme
‘swordfight, duel, trial by sword; rivalry, debate’
NəN- > N̩-
[ˈɕeːɮɛ‿ɛˈɢæ̤l]
séi'hle wǫgád
‘wash clothing’
Consonant harmony triggered involving dentals and laterals
[ˈɲɟaːʈʂɽeː]
njathazhdirö
‘a type of sign which indicates a business is open’
The schwa in the penult deletes with compensatory lengthening of the preceding vowel; the consonant length in the ensuing cluster was redistributed onto the following vowel to preserve the chroneme aspect in the phonological resolution
Re: Word evolution game
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2025 4:54 am
by foxcatdog
[ˈsokʷetʃø]
cöj
‘a type of domestic marsupial resembling a fox’
*g > *kʷ
[ˈjŷ]
notchi
‘grounds, plot of land; habitat, native environs; country’
*dj > *j
[m̩bbʕɛ̯]
zhbme
‘swordfight, duel, trial by sword; rivalry, debate’
*ɔw > ʕ
[ˈɕeːɮɛ‿ɛˈqæ̤l]
séi'hle wǫgád
‘wash clothing’
*ɢ > *q
[ˈɲɟuaʈʂɽie]
njathazhdirö
‘a type of sign which indicates a business is open’
long vowel breaking
Re: Word evolution game
Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2025 9:17 pm
by Man in Space
[ˈsocʷetʃø]
cöj
‘a type of domestic marsupial resembling a fox’
palatalization of velars before front vowels
[ˈî]
notchi
‘grounds, plot of land; country’
contraction of *jE sequences
[m̩bba]
zhbme
‘swordfight, duel, trial by sword; rivalry, debate; courage, outspokenness’
vocalization of *ʕV sequences
[ˈɕeːɮɛ‿ɛˈqæ̤ɮ]
séi'hle wǫgád
‘wash, prepare, or clean via mechanical processes involving liquids (transitive)’
progressive lateral harmony within the phonetic unit
[ˈɟuaʈʂɽie]
njathazhdirö
‘a type of sign which indicates a business is open; (vulgar) derogatory term implying a woman has loose sexual morals’
loss of prenasalization on stops
Re: Word evolution game
Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2025 11:04 pm
by foxcatdog
[ˈsotʂetʃø]
cöj
‘a type of domestic marsupial resembling a fox’
*cʷ > *tʂ
[ˈhî]
notchi
‘grounds, plot of land; country’
initial *h added
[m̩ppa]
zhbme
‘swordfight, duel, trial by sword; rivalry, debate; courage, outspokenness’
*bb > *pp
[ˈɕweɮɛ‿ɛˈqæ̤ɮ]
séi'hle wǫgád
‘wash, prepare, or clean via mechanical processes involving liquids (transitive)’
*e: > *we
[ˈɟuaʈʂie]
njathazhdirö
‘a type of sign which indicates a business is open; (vulgar) derogatory term implying a woman has loose sexual morals’
*ɽ lost after retroflexes
Re: Word evolution game
Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2025 11:56 pm
by Man in Space
[ˈsotʂetʃe]
cöj
‘a type of domestic marsupial resembling a fox’
ø y > e i / {e,i}…_
[hi̥]
notchi
‘grounds, plot of land; country’
[+syll] > [-vc] / h_#
[m̩pa]
zhbme
‘swordfight, duel, trial by sword; rivalry, debate; courage, outspokenness’
gemination lost after nasals
[ɕweɮɛˈqæ̤ɮ]
séi'hle wǫgád
‘wash, prepare, or clean via mechanical processes involving liquids (transitive)’
hiatus resolution
[ˈɟyæʈʂie]
njathazhdirö
‘a type of sign which indicates a business is open; (vulgar) derogatory term implying a woman has loose sexual morals’
back vowels front adjacent to palatals (progressively when in hiatus)
Re: Word evolution game
Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2025 12:35 pm
by Travis B.
[ˈsoːtʂetʃe]
cöj
‘a type of domestic marsupial resembling a fox’
Lengthening of vowels in stressed open syllables.
[çi̥]
notchi
‘grounds, plot of land; country’
[h] > [ç] before [j] and front vowels.
[məpa]
zhbme
‘swordfight, duel, trial by sword; rivalry, debate; courage, outspokenness’
Desyllabicization of syllabic nasals with ejection of a following schwa.
[ɕweɮɛˈqa̤i̤̯ɮ]
séi'hle wǫgád
‘wash, prepare, or clean via mechanical processes involving liquids (transitive)’
[æ] > [ai̯]
[ˈdʑyæʈʂie]
njathazhdirö
‘a type of sign which indicates a business is open; (vulgar) derogatory term implying a woman has loose sexual morals’
[ɟ] > [dʑ]
Re: Word evolution game
Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2025 7:17 pm
by foxcatdog
[ˈsuatʂetʃe]
cöj
‘a type of domestic marsupial resembling a fox’
o: > *ua
[çi̥n]
notchi
‘grounds, plot of land; country’
words with only a single mora acquire a final *n
[məpe]
zhbme
‘swordfight, duel, trial by sword; rivalry, debate; courage, outspokenness’
*a > *e after labials
[ɕweɮˈqa̤i̤̯ɮ]
séi'hle wǫgád
‘wash, prepare, or clean via mechanical processes involving liquids (transitive)’
Loss of pretonic vowels
[ˈʑyæʂie]
njathazhdirö
‘a type of sign which indicates a business is open; (vulgar) derogatory term implying a woman has loose sexual morals’
Deaffrication
Re: Word evolution game
Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2025 7:44 pm
by Man in Space
[ˈsuatʂatʃa]
suaċača
‘a type of domestic marsupial resembling a fox’
progressive vowel harmony: /a u/ ~ /e i/
[çn̩]
chyn
‘grounds, plot of land; country’
loss of voiceless vowels before voiced sounds
[mopø]
mope
‘swordfight, duel, trial by sword; rivalry, debate; courage, outspokenness’
vowel roundedness assimilation when P_
[ɕfeɮˈqa̤i̤̯ɮ]
schfellqûyll
‘wash, prepare, or clean via mechanical processes involving liquids (transitive)’
*w > f / [-vc] _
[ˈʑyeʂie]
zschuiszii
‘(criminal slang) a method of operation that involves entering a place of business during active, normal business hours to execute one’s gambit’
taboo deformation raising stressed *yæ to [ye] in slang terms
Re: Word evolution game
Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2025 8:05 pm
by foxcatdog
But why does the word reaffricate?
Re: Word evolution game
Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2025 8:07 pm
by Man in Space
foxcatdog wrote: ↑Sat Nov 15, 2025 8:05 pm
But why does the word reaffricate?
An accident on my part. I will fix it.
EDIT: Fixed, my apologies.
Re: Word evolution game
Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2025 7:41 pm
by foxcatdog
We'll see what y'all can do with this word
[ˈma.ma]
momo
"instant noodles"
Re: Word evolution game
Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2026 12:20 pm
by Man in Space
chattǟtie
[xɑˈʰtɛːtɕe]
‘wagon hitch’
Re: Word evolution game
Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2026 1:24 pm
by Travis B.
chattǟtie
[xɑˈʰtsɛːtɕe]
‘wagon hitch’
Alveolar plosives affricate before front vowels.
Re: Word evolution game
Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2026 1:55 pm
by Man in Space
chattǟtie
[xɑˈʰtsɛːtɕi]
‘wagon hitch’
Final mid vowels raise
Re: Word evolution game
Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2026 3:45 pm
by Travis B.
chattǟtie
[xɑˈstsɛːtɕi]
‘wagon hitch’
Preaspiration turns into a homorganic voiceless fricative.