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Re: British Politics Guide
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2026 6:04 am
by Raphael
I wonder if anyone might get creative inspiration from this recent combination of trending topics on Bluesky:

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(An excerpt from a screenshot showing the word "trending", followed by "Summer Solstice", "Labour Party", and "Film Noir".
Re: British Politics Guide
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2026 2:15 pm
by alice
Raphael wrote: ↑Sun Jun 21, 2026 6:04 am
I wonder if anyone might get creative inspiration from this recent combination of trending topics on Bluesky:
trends202606211255.png
(An excerpt from a screenshot showing the word "trending", followed by "Summer Solstice", "Labour Party", and "Film Noir".
"Summer Solstice" and "FIlm Noir" are a reference to global warming and the impending heatwave, "Labour Party" is something to do with celebrating work, I think, or celebrating by working.
Re: British Politics Guide
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2026 5:01 am
by bradrn
Well, Sir Starmer is gone. Thoughts?
Re: British Politics Guide
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2026 5:15 am
by Raphael
I mainly wonder how long they'll take for the leadership election now.
Re: British Politics Guide
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2026 5:36 am
by bradrn
Raphael wrote: ↑Mon Jun 22, 2026 5:15 am
I mainly wonder how long they'll take for the leadership election now.
Apparently Wes Streeting is supporting Burnham now, so presumably not long.
Re: British Politics Guide
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2026 6:00 am
by lëtzeshark
bradrn wrote: ↑Mon Jun 22, 2026 5:01 am
Well, Sir Starmer is gone. Thoughts?
Only took about two years. Interesting, though at least not Liz Truss-level speed of collapse: not very surprising given the rumblings all around. Anyways,
here's a possibly relevant song for the occasion.
Re: British Politics Guide
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2026 6:03 am
by Raphael
While we're at it, why didn't I notice before that about one and a half months ago, PC won the Senedd election? Was everyone too busy talking about England and maybe Scotland and, during the pogroms, Northern Ireland?
Re: British Politics Guide
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2026 9:54 am
by Richard W
bradrn wrote: ↑Mon Jun 22, 2026 5:01 am
Sir Starmer is gone.
Who? Do you mean
Sir Keir?
Re: British Politics Guide
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2026 9:56 am
by bradrn
Richard W wrote: ↑Mon Jun 22, 2026 9:54 am
bradrn wrote: ↑Mon Jun 22, 2026 5:01 am
Sir Starmer is gone.
Who? Do you mean
Sir Keir?
?
Re: British Politics Guide
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2026 10:00 am
by Richard W
bradrn wrote: ↑Mon Jun 22, 2026 5:01 am
Well, Sir Starmer is gone. Thoughts?
It would have made more sense to Burnham to immediately take over as prime minister. I'm not sure how long that takes - perhaps an hour? Remember that John Major resigned as Leader of the Conservative Party (subsequently re-elected) while retaining the prime ministership.
Re: British Politics Guide
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2026 10:05 am
by bradrn
bradrn wrote: ↑Mon Jun 22, 2026 9:56 am
Richard W wrote: ↑Mon Jun 22, 2026 9:54 am
bradrn wrote: ↑Mon Jun 22, 2026 5:01 am
Sir Starmer is gone.
Who? Do you mean
Sir Keir?
?
Ah, looking on Wikipedia I see:
The prefix is used with the holder's given name or full name, but never with the surname alone. For example, in written or spoken address, "Sir Alexander" and "Sir Alexander Fleming" are each correct, whilst "Sir Fleming" is incorrect.
That’s interesting — I thought it would behave like other titles such as ‘Dr’ or ‘Prof’.
Re: British Politics Guide
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2026 10:13 am
by Richard W
bradrn wrote: ↑Mon Jun 22, 2026 9:56 am
Richard W wrote: ↑Mon Jun 22, 2026 9:54 am
bradrn wrote: ↑Mon Jun 22, 2026 5:01 am
Sir Starmer is gone.
Who? Do you mean
Sir Keir?
?
Surely you've heard of
Dame Edna?
Re: British Politics Guide
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2026 10:52 am
by bradrn
Richard W wrote: ↑Mon Jun 22, 2026 10:13 am
bradrn wrote: ↑Mon Jun 22, 2026 9:56 am
Richard W wrote: ↑Mon Jun 22, 2026 9:54 am
Who? Do you mean
Sir Keir?
?
Surely you've heard of
Dame Edna?
True, that.
Re: British Politics Guide
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2026 12:44 pm
by lëtzeshark
bradrn wrote: ↑Mon Jun 22, 2026 10:05 am
The prefix is used with the holder's given name or full name, but never with the surname alone. For example, in written or spoken address, "Sir Alexander" and "Sir Alexander Fleming" are each correct, whilst "Sir Fleming" is incorrect.
That’s interesting — I thought it would behave like other titles such as ‘Dr’ or ‘Prof’.
And then you have titles like "Lord", "Baron", and "Cardinal" which
traditionally behave very differently from the others like "Prof." or "Dr." in that they only attach to the surname (hence, "George Lord Byron"). Titles are funny. (And then in Austria and Germany, titles are
very important and often stacked.)
Re: British Politics Guide
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2026 12:52 pm
by Raphael
lëtzeshark wrote: ↑Mon Jun 22, 2026 12:44 pm
bradrn wrote: ↑Mon Jun 22, 2026 10:05 am
The prefix is used with the holder's given name or full name, but never with the surname alone. For example, in written or spoken address, "Sir Alexander" and "Sir Alexander Fleming" are each correct, whilst "Sir Fleming" is incorrect.
That’s interesting — I thought it would behave like other titles such as ‘Dr’ or ‘Prof’.
And then you have titles like "Lord", "Baron", and "Cardinal" which
traditionally behave very differently from the others like "Prof." or "Dr." in that they only attach to the surname (hence, "George Lord Byron"). Titles are funny. (And then in Austria and Germany, titles are
very important and often stacked.)
In case any newer ZBB members are reading this, I'm reminded of this old post of mine:
https://www.verduria.org/viewtopic.php?t=227
Re: British Politics Guide
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2026 2:37 pm
by alice
lëtzeshark wrote: ↑Mon Jun 22, 2026 12:44 pm
bradrn wrote: ↑Mon Jun 22, 2026 10:05 am
The prefix is used with the holder's given name or full name, but never with the surname alone. For example, in written or spoken address, "Sir Alexander" and "Sir Alexander Fleming" are each correct, whilst "Sir Fleming" is incorrect.
That’s interesting — I thought it would behave like other titles such as ‘Dr’ or ‘Prof’.
And then you have titles like "Lord", "Baron", and "Cardinal" which
traditionally behave very differently from the others like "Prof." or "Dr." in that they only attach to the surname (hence, "George Lord Byron"). Titles are funny. (And then in Austria and Germany, titles are
very important and often stacked.)
And you have to get them in the correct order: "Mr. Sir Zompist" might have very different rights and privileges from "Sir Mr. Zompist." And that's even without the abbreviations.
Re: British Politics Guide
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2026 2:48 pm
by lëtzeshark
alice wrote: ↑Mon Jun 22, 2026 2:37 pm
lëtzeshark wrote: ↑Mon Jun 22, 2026 12:44 pm
bradrn wrote: ↑Mon Jun 22, 2026 10:05 am
That’s interesting — I thought it would behave like other titles such as ‘Dr’ or ‘Prof’.
And then you have titles like "Lord", "Baron", and "Cardinal" which
traditionally behave very differently from the others like "Prof." or "Dr." in that they only attach to the surname (hence, "George Lord Byron"). Titles are funny. (And then in Austria and Germany, titles are
very important and often stacked.)
And you have to get them in the correct order: "Mr. Sir Zompist" might have very different rights and privileges from "Sir Mr. Zompist." And that's even without the abbreviations.
Oh, fun. At least there's a conventional order of stacking in German (highest goes first), but what was confusing to me is that, at least in US usage,
doctor is sometimes treated as a higher title than
professor. (Some universities allow faculty to have a form of a professor title, like assistant or associate professor, without a doctorate; I had a few of those during my Bachelor's.)
More on topic about the ongoing Anarchy in the UK, it appears there's somebody (Andy Burnham) who just won a by-election to the House of Commons and who a lot of people are pegging to be the new PM. Whether or not that happens is maybe a bit in the air due to the leadership election procedure and whether or not there'll be multiple candidates... so an interesting summer is possibly ahead. (Or an uneventful one. Maybe a mix.)
Re: British Politics Guide
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2026 3:01 pm
by Raphael
I just discovered someone on Bluesky who goes by the name "Cameron", and I kind of like his take on British politics:
https://bsky.app/profile/cameroncorduro ... v6sltvo22n
i don't follow British politics at all in the slightest but to the very passive observer it seems like Brexit happened and then they spent a decade getting a new Prime Minister every year who promised to ban the internet even harder than the last one
Re: British Politics Guide
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2026 3:07 pm
by malloc
lëtzeshark wrote: ↑Mon Jun 22, 2026 2:48 pmMore on topic about the ongoing Anarchy in the UK, it appears there's somebody (Andy Burnham) who just won a by-election to the House of Commons and who a lot of people are pegging to be the new PM. Whether or not that happens is maybe a bit in the air due to the leadership election procedure and whether or not there'll be multiple candidates... so an interesting summer is possibly ahead. (Or an uneventful one. Maybe a mix.)
Let's just hope this doesn't lead to the current government imploding and giving Reform an opportunity to take power in elections.
Re: British Politics Guide
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2026 3:08 pm
by bradrn
malloc wrote: ↑Mon Jun 22, 2026 3:07 pm
lëtzeshark wrote: ↑Mon Jun 22, 2026 2:48 pmMore on topic about the ongoing Anarchy in the UK, it appears there's somebody (Andy Burnham) who just won a by-election to the House of Commons and who a lot of people are pegging to be the new PM. Whether or not that happens is maybe a bit in the air due to the leadership election procedure and whether or not there'll be multiple candidates... so an interesting summer is possibly ahead. (Or an uneventful one. Maybe a mix.)
Let's just hope this doesn't lead to the current government imploding and giving Reform an opportunity to take power in elections.
Well, this has happened in large part
because Burnham just proved his ability to win against Reform.