What do quotation marks look like when written by hand ?

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Re: What do quotation marks look like when written by hand ?

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Travis B. wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2023 5:49 pm I thought Windows now uses UTF-16 internally, after a period of using UCS-2
I think 1252 is compatible with UTF-16. But try this: open a command prompt and type Alt-130. You should get é. If you run CHCP it will tell you that you have code page 437 (unless you've changed that in the registry). Heck, typing alt-130 give me é right here.

Or, open Notepad, then type alt-130 to get an é, then save the file. Now open cmd.exe and type your file; it will output some garbage (├⌐). So no, Windows is not internally consistent.
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Re: What do quotation marks look like when written by hand ?

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zompist wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2023 6:27 pm
Travis B. wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2023 5:49 pm I thought Windows now uses UTF-16 internally, after a period of using UCS-2
I think 1252 is compatible with UTF-16. But try this: open a command prompt and type Alt-130. You should get é. If you run CHCP it will tell you that you have code page 437 (unless you've changed that in the registry). Heck, typing alt-130 give me é right here.

Or, open Notepad, then type alt-130 to get an é, then save the file. Now open cmd.exe and type your file; it will output some garbage (├⌐). So no, Windows is not internally consistent.
Apparently Notepad currently has options for "ANSI", UTF-8, and "Unicode"; "Unicode" is UTF-16 little endian. Of course, (almost) no one outside Microsoft actually saves files in UTF-16, even if they use UTF-16 internally (e.g. Java, JavaScript, etc.), and I bet very few people actually use the "Unicode" option in Notepad. In this case, I am pretty sure you probably are saving the file as UTF-8, as any sane person would.
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Re: What do quotation marks look like when written by hand ?

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BTW, I suspect what cmd.exe is using is what Microsoft calls "ANSI".
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Re: What do quotation marks look like when written by hand ?

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Travis B. wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2023 9:06 pm BTW, I suspect what cmd.exe is using is what Microsoft calls "ANSI".
What does MS even mean by "ANSI" ? ASCII + 1 more bit (for é, etc) ?
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Re: What do quotation marks look like when written by hand ?

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jcb wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2023 9:29 pm
Travis B. wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2023 9:06 pm BTW, I suspect what cmd.exe is using is what Microsoft calls "ANSI".
What does MS even mean by "ANSI" ? ASCII + 1 more bit (for é, etc) ?
Just looked it up, and it's code page 1252. And yes, it's an 8-bit encoding.
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