Phrase evolution game
Re: Phrase evolution game
1. umlaut occurs even across syllables: a ã o u ũ > ɛ ɛ̃ ø y ỹ / _C[V+front]
2. remaining palatals depalatalize: c cx cʰ ɟ ɲɟ ɲ > s sx sʰ z ndz n
3. non-low vowels delete in open syllables, but tone remains and moves to the previous syllable: i u e o > ∅ / VC_CV, VC_#
4: alveolar consonants palatalize: t d n nd > ʧ ʤ ɲ ɲʤ
5. remaining dental clicks become pulmonic: ǀ ǀʰ gǀ ŋǀ ŋǀg > t tʰ d n̥ n
[ɡúàɲàhà . ɡúɛ̀ʂ ínʂì sàβàkm̀sàβàɲàhà sǿβ ŋøé , sǿβ ŋøé ʔjũṹʧɛ̃̀ʂ . θà túú séè ʂíja biˈjeêdz tʰòà sɛ́êk]
<Guanyaha. Guash inshi sabakmsabanyaha söb ngoe, söb ngoe 'yũũtyã̈sh. Tha tuu see shiya biyéedz thoa saek.>
2. remaining palatals depalatalize: c cx cʰ ɟ ɲɟ ɲ > s sx sʰ z ndz n
3. non-low vowels delete in open syllables, but tone remains and moves to the previous syllable: i u e o > ∅ / VC_CV, VC_#
4: alveolar consonants palatalize: t d n nd > ʧ ʤ ɲ ɲʤ
5. remaining dental clicks become pulmonic: ǀ ǀʰ gǀ ŋǀ ŋǀg > t tʰ d n̥ n
[ɡúàɲàhà . ɡúɛ̀ʂ ínʂì sàβàkm̀sàβàɲàhà sǿβ ŋøé , sǿβ ŋøé ʔjũṹʧɛ̃̀ʂ . θà túú séè ʂíja biˈjeêdz tʰòà sɛ́êk]
<Guanyaha. Guash inshi sabakmsabanyaha söb ngoe, söb ngoe 'yũũtyã̈sh. Tha tuu see shiya biyéedz thoa saek.>
Zpaf kkuñb ñvneahttiñ wqxirftvn meof ñfañhsit.
Kkuñb ñvzxirf kvtañb kkuñf ñtmeaq sfañkqeanth.
Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq.
Kkuñb ñvzxirf kvtañb kkuñf ñtmeaq sfañkqeanth.
Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq.
Re: Phrase evolution game
- C > əC / C_C
- e > ə /_#
- /i/ becomes shwa in an unstressed syllable before a stressed syllable
- β > ɸ /_#
- β > ʋ
- ʔ > ∅
- Transcribe the first and second tone if it is a high tone, transcribe tone if it is a contour.
<Gúanyaha. Gúaș ínși savakemsavanyaha sǿf ngøé, sǿf ngøé yųų́tyąș. þa túú sée șíya biyeêdz thoa sáêk.>
Re: Phrase evolution game
- {o,u} → w / V _; ø → we
- [+velar] w → [+velar+round]; tʰw sw → kʷʰ ʍ
- [+affricate] → [+fricative]
- V₁{ʋ,h}V₁ → V₁V₁{ʋ,h}
- Nasality discharges on following consonant
- eə ɛe → ee ɛj
- VV̂ → V́V̀
- Tone dissimilation: V → V̀ / next to V́; V → V́ / next to V̀
- Vʋ → Vw; aw → ɔw
- jk → tʃ; wk → kʷ; wɲ → ŋʷ
[ɡʷâɲààh ‖ ɡʷɛ̂ʂ ínʂì sàɔ̀kʷə̀msàɔ̀ŋʷààh ʍéɸ ŋʷéé | ʍéɸ ŋʷéé jùúɲɛ̀ɳ ‖ θà túú séè ʂíjà bə̀ˈjéèz kʷʰà sɛ̂tʃ]
Gwânyaah. Gwɛ̂ș ínși saɔkwəmsaɔŋwaah s̄éf ŋwéé, s̄éf ŋwéé yuúnyɛn̦. S̭a túú sée șíya bəyéez khwa sɛ̂c.
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Re: Phrase evolution game
OK, since it seems no-one else wants to reply, I’ll do another one:
Gwânyaah. Gwɛ́ɛr ínsi saɔkwʊmsaɔŋwaah hə́ə́y ŋwéé, hə́ə́y ŋwéé yʊʊ́nyɛr. Sa túú sée síya wəyéer khwaa sɛ́ɛʃ.
- ʍ ɸ → h
- ə → ʊ / next to labials; otherwise ə → ɪ
- Regressive ±ATR vowel harmony: [a e i o u] ~ [a ɛ ɪ ɔ ʊ]
- ʂ ɳ z → ɻ / in coda
- θ ʂ → s; tʃ → ʃ; s → ʃ / _ {i,e}
- Minimal word constraint: monosyllabic lexical words must contain a long vowel
- [+aspirated] → [-aspirated]
- h → j / [+high] _ #; uj ʊj ej ɛj → əj
- b → w / #_
Gwânyaah. Gwɛ́ɛr ínsi saɔkwʊmsaɔŋwaah hə́ə́y ŋwéé, hə́ə́y ŋwéé yʊʊ́nyɛr. Sa túú sée síya wəyéer khwaa sɛ́ɛʃ.
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Re: Phrase evolution game
- vowels of the same quality are analyzed as long.
- ɡʷ → b / #_V ! _{u,ʊ}
- ɡʷ → b /! _#
- ɡʷ ŋʷ ɲ→ g m ŋ
- s ʃ→ z s
- z → ɾ / between two voiced segments
- j → dʒ / {#_, V_V}
- /else j → ì (I guess that's what would happen? Low tone because it was voiced)
- h → ∅ / _#
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Re: Phrase evolution game
- Accent is reanalysed to simply high-low pitch; a rising-falling pitch is reanalysed as a long vowel with a pitch shift; long vowels sharing the same pitch are shortened;
- Vowel Chain Shift: [e] > [i], [ɛ] > [e], [ə ɔ] > [o], [ʊ] > [u]
- Denasalisation of [ŋ] > [g] medially; liquefaction of terminal [ɻ] > [j] with shortening of preceding vowel
- Palatalisation, [s] > [ɕ], [z] > [ʑ], [dʒ] > [ɟʑ], [h] > [ç] (Then [ç] > [çj] before [e]) before front vowels; [t] > [ts] before [u]
- Disaffrication of [dʒ ɟʑ] > [ʒ ʑ]
- Vowel smoothing, [ei] > [eː], [ao] > [oː]; all long vowels shifted to have rising-falling pitch;
Bâga. Béy inshi zôkwumrôma hê mí, hê mí jûgey. Zà tsú shê shíja wojíy kwà zhês.
Re: Phrase evolution game
- Echo vowel addition: V₁C# → V₁CV₁#
- Palatalisation continues: ɕ ʑ → ç j → ɦʲ j
- Chain shift: z ʒ → r, ɾ → d
- V́₁V̀₁ → V̀₁V̀₁, with high tone moving to previous vowel, and addition of homorganic syllabic nasal if no vowel available; reanalysis of tone as accentual downshift
- Reinforcement of initial syllabic nasals: m̩ n̩ ɲ̍ ŋ̍ → ũm ə̃n ĩɲ ũŋʷ
- C {h,ɦʲ,j} → C {∅,ʲ,ʲ}
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Re: Phrase evolution game
- Tonal downshift becomes a stress accent.
- m n ɲ ŋ ŋʷ > b d ɟ ɡ ɡʷ > w ɾ j ɦ ɦʷ / ˈV_V
- Cʲ Cʷ > Cj Cw
- ɦ > Ø
- ɾ ts > r s
- Contrastive vowel nasalization is lost.
- Some monosyllabic words cliticise to a preceding word.
- All stressed syllables become long, and all unstressed syllables become short.
- Unstressed vowels merge into the three qualities /ɪ ʊ ʌ/, and get deleted in many pre-stress positions, especially near semivowels.
- Some amount of cluster simplification, including md ŋw nr jr > nd ŋɡw n ʒ
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Re: Phrase evolution game
cedh wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 7:13 am[ ʊˈmbɑː ‖ ˈbjeːnɪ nʊkʊˈndoːwʌ ʊˈŋɡweːmɪ | ʊˈŋɡweːmɪ ˈnjuːjʌ ‖ ˈrɑːsʊ ˈnjeːʒʌ ˈwiːkʌ ˈnjeːsʌ ]
- Tonal downshift becomes a stress accent.
- m n ɲ ŋ ŋʷ > b d ɟ ɡ ɡʷ > w ɾ j ɦ ɦʷ / ˈV_V
- Cʲ Cʷ > Cj Cw
- ɦ > Ø
- ɾ ts > r s
- Contrastive vowel nasalization is lost.
- Some monosyllabic words cliticise to a preceding word.
- All stressed syllables become long, and all unstressed syllables become short.
- Unstressed vowels merge into the three qualities /ɪ ʊ ʌ/, and get deleted in many pre-stress positions, especially near semivowels.
- Some amount of cluster simplification, including md ŋw nr jr > nd ŋɡw n ʒ
Umbàà. Byèèni nukundòòwa ungwèèmi, ungwèèmi nyùùya. Rààsu nyèèja wììka nyèèsa.
- [mb nd ŋɡ] > [ᵐb ⁿd ᵑɡ] > [m n ŋ], [ŋ] > [g]
- [ʊ] merges into [ʌ], further pretonic deletions, but [ʌ] > [o] after [w], [ʌ] > [ø] after [j ʒ]
- [ɑː] breaks to [æa] > [jæ], [eː] > [ie] > [je], pre-existing [j w] blocks this shift, and triggers [jeː] > [jei] > [i], [weː] > [wei] > [wi]
- [uː] > [au] > [a], but [juː] > [yː] > [̞øy] > [ø]; [oː] > [uo] > [u]; [ɪ] merges back into [i]
- Stress shifts to the first syllable of a word; intertonic vowels tend to be reduced or deleted, except that jV wV push deletion of a subsequent vowel instead
Eomya. Bini neoknwo eogwim, eogwim neujeu. Ryaseo nijeu wakeo niseo.
Feels kind-of Korean now.
Re: Phrase evolution game
- w → u
- ui → əi → ai → eː
- ei → iː
- ʌ → ɔ /! #_
- ʌ → a
- g → ɣ /V_V
- {mj nj} → ɲ
Eomya. Bini neoknwo eogwim, eogwim neujeu. Ryaseo nijeu wakeo niseo.
Re: Phrase evolution game
1. uə jæ > uː æː
2. tonogenesis: long stressed vowels get falling tone, short stressed vowels get high tone except when there's a long vowel after the stressed syllable, in which case they get rising tone, length then disappears
3. æ ɔ > e o
[ ˈá.ɲe ‖ ˈbíni ˈnǎk.nu ˈǎ.ɣem | ˈǎ.ɣem ˈnǿ.jø ‖ ˈrê.so ˈní.ʒø ˈwá.ko ˈní.so]
<Anye. Bini náknu ágem, ágem nöyö. Rèso nizhö wako niso.>
This looks decidedly non-Khoisan, so it's probably time for a new text, however I can't think of any right now.
2. tonogenesis: long stressed vowels get falling tone, short stressed vowels get high tone except when there's a long vowel after the stressed syllable, in which case they get rising tone, length then disappears
3. æ ɔ > e o
[ ˈá.ɲe ‖ ˈbíni ˈnǎk.nu ˈǎ.ɣem | ˈǎ.ɣem ˈnǿ.jø ‖ ˈrê.so ˈní.ʒø ˈwá.ko ˈní.so]
<Anye. Bini náknu ágem, ágem nöyö. Rèso nizhö wako niso.>
This looks decidedly non-Khoisan, so it's probably time for a new text, however I can't think of any right now.
Zpaf kkuñb ñvneahttiñ wqxirftvn meof ñfañhsit.
Kkuñb ñvzxirf kvtañb kkuñf ñtmeaq sfañkqeanth.
Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq.
Kkuñb ñvzxirf kvtañb kkuñf ñtmeaq sfañkqeanth.
Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq.
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Re: Phrase evolution game
Gothic perhaps?
Allái manna freihals jah samaleikō in waírþidái jah raíhteis waúrþans. Fraþei jah miþwissei gibnans jah libandau swē broþrjus.
Allái manna freihals jah samaleikō in waírþidái jah raíhteis waúrþans. Fraþei jah miþwissei gibnans jah libandau swē broþrjus.
Re: Phrase evolution game
1. fricatives are voiced before or after voiced consonants
2. short vowels reduce: a ɛ i ɔ u > ə ɛ ɪ ɔ ʊ
3: vowel-initial words receive an epenthetic glottal stop
[ʔəllɛ: mənnə βri:həls jəh səməli:ko: ʔɪn wɛrðɪðɛ: jəh rɛhti:s wɔrðəns || βrəθi: jəh mɪðwɪssi: gɪβnəns jəh lɪβəndɔ: swe: bro:ðrjʊs]
<Allái manna freihals jah samaleikō in waírþidái jah raíhteis waúrþans. Fraþei jah miþwissei gibnans jah libandau swē broþrjus.>
2. short vowels reduce: a ɛ i ɔ u > ə ɛ ɪ ɔ ʊ
3: vowel-initial words receive an epenthetic glottal stop
[ʔəllɛ: mənnə βri:həls jəh səməli:ko: ʔɪn wɛrðɪðɛ: jəh rɛhti:s wɔrðəns || βrəθi: jəh mɪðwɪssi: gɪβnəns jəh lɪβəndɔ: swe: bro:ðrjʊs]
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Zpaf kkuñb ñvneahttiñ wqxirftvn meof ñfañhsit.
Kkuñb ñvzxirf kvtañb kkuñf ñtmeaq sfañkqeanth.
Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq.
Kkuñb ñvzxirf kvtañb kkuñf ñtmeaq sfañkqeanth.
Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq.
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Re: Phrase evolution game
Karch wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 6:20 pm 1. fricatives are voiced before or after voiced consonants
2. short vowels reduce: a ɛ i ɔ u > ə ɛ ɪ ɔ ʊ
3: vowel-initial words receive an epenthetic glottal stop
[ʔəllɛ: mənnə βri:həls jəh səməli:ko: ʔɪn wɛrðɪðɛ: jəh rɛhti:s wɔrðəns || βrəθi: jəh mɪðwɪssi: gɪβnəns jəh lɪβəndɔ: swe: bro:ðrjʊs]
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- [ə] > [ɐ] usually, but [jə] > [je], > [ɛ] in syllables preceded or followed by [i]; the former remains graphically "a"; the latter is usually graphically "e"
- [ð] > [h] intervocalically or before or after liquids
- [h] > [ç] before or after [ɛ e i ɪ], > [x] elsewhere except initially; orthographically "ch"
- [ɪ jʊ] > [i y]
- [β w] > [ʋ]
- [ɛ:] > [iɐ], [iː] > [ɐi], [oː] > [uɐ], [eː] > [eɐ], [ɔː] > [ɔɐ], graphically "ia, ai, ua, ea, oa"
- [i] > [y] before [ʋ]
- [g] > [j] before front vowels]
- [ʋr br] transposes [r] to the coda of the syllable where possible; other transpositions also occur sporadically
[ʔɐlliɐ mɐnnɐ ʋɐirçɛls jeç sɛmɛlɐikuɐ ʔin ʋɛçriçiɐ jeç rɛçtɐis ʋɔxrɐns || ʋɛrθɐi jeç myʋçissɐi jyʋnɐns jeç lyʋɐndɔɐ sʋea buɐrxrys]
My, some of those diphthongs look atrocious, now don't they?
Re: Phrase evolution game
- ɐ → ɑ; V{ɑ,i,ç,u} → V{ʕ,j,j,w}
- [jej] cliticises to following word
- [+semivowel] → ∅ / _ CC
- ɛ ɔ → a o
- jt js jr jk ç → t͡ʃ ʃ ʒ t͡ʃ ʃ
- C₁C₂V₁ → C₁V₁C₂V₁ (applied cyclically RTL)
- iʕ eʕ uʕ oʕ → u o ɒ ɑ; remaining ʕ → ∅
- ʋ → w next to [+round] or [+back]
- ejy → ø
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(NB. ⟨s̊⟩ comes from ⟨jech s⟩ → ⟨je chs⟩ → ⟨je ᶜʰs⟩ → ⟨je s̊⟩; the last two look similar in blackletter.)
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Re: Phrase evolution game
1. ɒ > o
2. front-back vowel harmony appears (i y e ø a / ɯ u ɤ o ɑ), vowels harmonize with whatever class is more frequent in the word
3. s disappears word-finally after a consonant
[ʔɑllu mɑnnɑ waraʃal jeʃamalat͡ʃø ʔin ʋaʒijy jeʒat͡ʃaʃ woxɑrɑn || ʋɑrɑθɑj jømywijissaj juʋɑnɑn jølyʋandø seʋɤ byryxyrys]
<Allu manna wärächäl je s̊ämäläjko in wächiju je r̊ächäjs wocharan. Waraþaj je mywuhussaj gywanan je lywando sewo burychyrys.>
2. front-back vowel harmony appears (i y e ø a / ɯ u ɤ o ɑ), vowels harmonize with whatever class is more frequent in the word
3. s disappears word-finally after a consonant
[ʔɑllu mɑnnɑ waraʃal jeʃamalat͡ʃø ʔin ʋaʒijy jeʒat͡ʃaʃ woxɑrɑn || ʋɑrɑθɑj jømywijissaj juʋɑnɑn jølyʋandø seʋɤ byryxyrys]
<Allu manna wärächäl je s̊ämäläjko in wächiju je r̊ächäjs wocharan. Waraþaj je mywuhussaj gywanan je lywando sewo burychyrys.>
Zpaf kkuñb ñvneahttiñ wqxirftvn meof ñfañhsit.
Kkuñb ñvzxirf kvtañb kkuñf ñtmeaq sfañkqeanth.
Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq.
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Re: Phrase evolution game
- Loss of glottal stops;
- Remaining [ʋ w] > [ʋ] initially, [w] elsewhere
- Intervocalic [x] > [j] or [w] depending on surrounding vowels; intervocalic [m] > [w]
- [m] > [w] between vowels
- Contraction of sequences of vowel + [j] or [w] + vowel: [awa owa uwa] > [aɔ ao au] > [ɔː], [ijy yjy] > [yː], [øwy ywa ewɤ] > [øy ay øu] > [øː], [iji] > [iː]; new long vowels shorten before geminates.
- Terminal [l] > [w]
- [je aj ʋa aw] > [i eː wo ɔː]
- [tʃ ʃ ʒ] develop palatal allophones [ɕ ʑ] before or after front vowels; terminal [ʃ] > [s] where not contacting a front vowel, [s] > [ɕ] where contacting one
- Stress is drawn to the last long vowel in a word;
- Loss of non-initial pretonic vowels followed immediately by a long vowel, except where this would produce a difficult cluster; remaining short vowels reduced to schwa, with preceding palatalisation for front vowels, other front vowels trigger light palatalisation of preceding consonants other than [w]
- French invasion of the territory results in the Gallicisation of some vocabulary and the orthography.
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Re: Phrase evolution game
- r → ɾ /! after a homorganic consonant
- r → ʁ
- a → æ
- w → b / C_
- w → f / #_
- ʋ w → v
- Coda becomes /palatal/palatalized if onset is palatalized
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Re: Phrase evolution game
- Vowel system reorganisation:
- Long vowels expand into back half of vowel space: yː øː aː ɔː → ʉː ɵː ɑː ɑː
- Short vowel centralisation: y ɯ ø ɤ → ʉ ɨ ɵ ə
- ɵ → ɞ, u → ʊ, æ e ə ɨ → ɛ ɪ ɘ ɘ
- θʲ dʲ sʲ nʲ lʲ rʲ → ç ɟ ɕ ɲ ʎ ʝ; ʎ ʝ → j
- ʁ̩ → ɑ
- ClV → CVj; VɾC → VnC
- [+nasal] C → [+nasal] [+stop] with the nasal assimilating in PoA
- Coda [+obstruent] → ʔ → low tone
Allou peûpał worscheau i égal in dinité idroit weauran. Wonthay yeûwissay yeaunan yełeûnjeu seu brûruche.
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Re: Phrase evolution game
Time for something more exotic
中国是一个位于东亚的国家,也是一个正在崛起的超级大国。
Zhōngguó shì yīgè wèiyú dōngyà de guójiā, yěshì yīgè zhèngzài juéqǐ de chāojí dàguó.
"China is a country located in East Asia and a superpower in the making"
中国是一个位于东亚的国家,也是一个正在崛起的超级大国。
Zhōngguó shì yīgè wèiyú dōngyà de guójiā, yěshì yīgè zhèngzài juéqǐ de chāojí dàguó.
"China is a country located in East Asia and a superpower in the making"