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Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2025 5:32 pm
by Travis B.
Karch wrote: ↑Tue Sep 16, 2025 5:28 pm
Travis B. wrote: ↑Tue Sep 16, 2025 5:24 pm Vlach Romani.
Yeah. But that's still a very imprecise term!
Do we have to paste the text into Google to find which Bible translation in which Romani subvariety you selected? (These things always turn out to be Bible translations, do they?)

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2025 5:34 pm
by Karch
Travis B. wrote: ↑Tue Sep 16, 2025 5:32 pm Do we have to paste the text into Google to find which Bible translation in which Romani subvariety you selected? (These things always turn out to be Bible translations, do they?)
Oh come on. You can also ask geographic questions, you know, which might help narrowing the search! (And no, this text isn't from a Bible translation, though it does mention God.)

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2025 5:37 pm
by Travis B.
Karch wrote: ↑Tue Sep 16, 2025 5:34 pm
Travis B. wrote: ↑Tue Sep 16, 2025 5:32 pm Do we have to paste the text into Google to find which Bible translation in which Romani subvariety you selected? (These things always turn out to be Bible translations, do they?)
Oh come on. You can also ask geographic questions, you know, which might help narrowing the search! (And no, this text isn't from a Bible translation, though it does mention God.)
Okay, initial guess, is it spoken within the former Yugoslavia? And if not that, the former Czechoslovakia?

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2025 5:40 pm
by Karch
Travis B. wrote: ↑Tue Sep 16, 2025 5:37 pm And if not that, the former Czechoslovakia?
Yeah! And there's only one Vlax variety spoken here (which is of course divided into further subvarieties but I'm not gonna bore you with that, and besides they're not mentioned on Wikipedia).

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2025 5:51 pm
by Travis B.
Karch wrote: ↑Tue Sep 16, 2025 5:40 pm
Travis B. wrote: ↑Tue Sep 16, 2025 5:37 pm And if not that, the former Czechoslovakia?
Yeah! And there's only one Vlax variety spoken here (which is of course divided into further subvarieties but I'm not gonna bore you with that, and besides they're not mentioned on Wikipedia).
Then I would gather it'd be Lovari (Lovara Romani)?

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2025 6:06 pm
by Karch
Travis B. wrote: ↑Tue Sep 16, 2025 5:51 pm Then I would gather it'd be Lovari (Lovara Romani)?
And that's indeed what it is! More specifically, Eastern Slovak Lovari (not to be confused with the much more populous, and very much different, Eastern Slovak Romani!). Though to be fair I had a bit of a two quartzes and a feldspar moment there. Your turn!

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2025 7:34 pm
by Travis B.
Mvid naw ma qhot lo nawl ve a lof bid qhe, mil guil qhot that thawd bid la pil-ot. Yat nyi lof ve cad tul dawl tul ted phaf, yat nyi ngal hui that pet lal-ot.

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2025 4:20 am
by bradrn
Travis B. wrote: ↑Tue Sep 16, 2025 7:34 pm
Mvid naw ma qhot lo nawl ve a lof bid qhe, mil guil qhot that thawd bid la pil-ot. Yat nyi lof ve cad tul dawl tul ted phaf, yat nyi ngal hui that pet lal-ot.
Something with tone letters, by the looks of it… Hmong-Mien?

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2025 8:06 am
by Travis B.
bradrn wrote: ↑Wed Sep 17, 2025 4:20 am
Travis B. wrote: ↑Tue Sep 16, 2025 7:34 pm
Mvid naw ma qhot lo nawl ve a lof bid qhe, mil guil qhot that thawd bid la pil-ot. Yat nyi lof ve cad tul dawl tul ted phaf, yat nyi ngal hui that pet lal-ot.
Something with tone letters, by the looks of it… Hmong-Mien?
Right general region of the world, wrong language family. (And yes, those are tone letters.)

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2025 8:45 am
by bradrn
Travis B. wrote: ↑Wed Sep 17, 2025 8:06 am
bradrn wrote: ↑Wed Sep 17, 2025 4:20 am
Travis B. wrote: ↑Tue Sep 16, 2025 7:34 pm
Something with tone letters, by the looks of it… Hmong-Mien?
Right general region of the world, wrong language family.
Kra-Dai? I guess non-Tai if so, probably Kra.

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2025 8:45 am
by Travis B.
bradrn wrote: ↑Wed Sep 17, 2025 8:45 am
Travis B. wrote: ↑Wed Sep 17, 2025 8:06 am
bradrn wrote: ↑Wed Sep 17, 2025 4:20 am

Something with tone letters, by the looks of it… Hmong-Mien?
Right general region of the world, wrong language family.
Kra-Dai? I guess non-Tai if so, probably Kra.
Nope.

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2025 9:57 am
by Karch
Sino-Tibetan?

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2025 9:58 am
by Travis B.
Karch wrote: ↑Wed Sep 17, 2025 9:57 amSino-Tibetan?
Yes.

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2025 10:12 am
by Karch
Wait, isn't this the Chinese orthography for Lahu?

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2025 10:14 am
by Travis B.
Karch wrote: ↑Wed Sep 17, 2025 10:12 am Wait, isn't this the Chinese orthography for Lahu?
Bingo! Your turn!

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2025 4:18 pm
by Karch
Añjɨgɨ ñi kɨyi muŋumapa, Rkrwamba. Krumatɨ, Rkrwamrɨ chagɨyinɨ matɨ aruã ikɨ gɨgapa matɨ wãŋgrɨ chinapa. Ñi mpmɨtɨtɨŋɨ añjɨgɨ ikɨ varatmapa. Aku Aŋgwamɨ pata ŋgɨmanɨ maŋuñi bmu nɨgɨ, maŋuñi añjɨgɨ vuwuyi. Maŋuñi ŋɨmanɨnmɨ avkɨkɨ añjɨgɨ ŋumapa, muŋuwa mɨndavɨ, vaŋgimɨŋɨ garɨ avkɨva maŋuñi nɨŋgɨ mɨchagɨyi. Chagɨyindaka wavɨ pata ŋgrugunu ambwã, anuagrɨ, kri achiriti maŋuñi makɨga. Kɨnɨŋgɨgɨ mɨkwavɨyi, Andamŋgɨ. Avkɨkɨ mbarɨ mbuyukɨ ŋgɨgɨ mɨchagɨyiva avɨnɨ ŋgimɨŋɨ mbɨyi. Ŋgimɨŋɨ mbɨyindaka avɨnɨ achirkatɨ manda. Maurwutmapava ñjimɨŋamkɨ chagɨyikɨ aŋayivguvguŋgɨ chagɨyikɨ mantɨ mɨmavugwa. Antɨ vugwandaka matɨ mbɨgakɨ antɨ mɨmɨkakɨ anduku mɨmbɨyiva aku anmɨ awugru navkɨva matɨ wãŋgrɨ aŋɨnɨmkɨ perkamkɨ chagɨyi.

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2025 4:46 pm
by bradrn
Papuan, probably TNG.

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2025 6:04 pm
by Karch
bradrn wrote: ↑Wed Sep 17, 2025 4:46 pm Papuan, probably TNG.
Papuan, but not TNG.

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2025 7:23 pm
by Nortaneous
Ramu-Lower Sepik?

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2025 9:15 am
by Karch
Nortaneous wrote: ↑Wed Sep 17, 2025 7:23 pm Ramu-Lower Sepik?
Yeah.