Reverse Rominazation Challenge Thread, v2.0

[bbbosborne]

might as well add the reverse now
You post a romanization, cyrillization, etc. and then you figure out a phonology for it.

let's start off with:
b bb c d dd f g gw h j k kw l m mp n nt ñ ŋ ŋk ŋkw ŋw p r s t w y

a ɛ e i ɔ o u

Tones: high, mid, low

[mèþru]

I would prefer making it a single thread.

[Xwtek]

Consonant:

Code: Select all

+---------+---------+-------+---------+-----------+
| m       | n       | ɲ <ñ> | ŋ       | ŋʷ <ŋw>   |
| p̰ <p>   | t̰ <t>   | c̰ <c> | k̰ <k>   | k̰ʷ <kw>   |
| p̤ <b>   | t̤ <d>   | c̤ <j> | k̤ <g>   | k̤ʷ <gw>   |
| ɓ <bb>  | ɗ <dd>  |       |         |           |
| ⁿp <mp> | ⁿt <nt> |       | ⁿk <ŋk> | ⁿkʷ <ŋkw> |
| f <f>   | s <s>   |       | x  <h>  |           |
|         |   l r   |  y    |         | w         |
+---------+---------+-------+---------+-----------+

Vowel
[a ɛ e i ɔ o u] Written like IPA.

Tone:
1. High : Written with acute accent
2. Mid : Unwritten
3. Low : Written with grave accent

Phonotactics:
(C)V

[Birdlang]

You're supposed to do a phonology after, just to clarify. I started the first RRCT as I call it. So we can have a new one to start with
I guess I'll do it...
a á b c ç ch çh d dh e é ë ê f g gh h xh i í j k kh l m n ñ ng ň o ó ö ô p ph q r rh rr rz s sh t ţ th ţh u ú ü û v w x y z zh ż żh þ ä â å ao ø œ ì

[Xwtek]

You're supposed to do a phonology after, just to clarify. I started the first RRCT as I call it. So we can have a new one to start with
I guess I'll do it...
a á b c ç ch çh d dh e é ë ê f g gh h xh i í j k kh l m n ñ ng ň o ó ö ô p ph q r rh rr rz s sh t ţ th ţh u ú ü û v w x y z zh ż żh þ ä â å ao ø œ ì

I give up

[Frislander]

OK so here's my attempt to make sense of this absolute kitchen0sink, as I procrastinate from this essay I need to write.

/p t t͡s ʈ t͡ʃ k ʔ/ <p t c ţ ç k q>
/pʰ tʰ t͡sʰ ʈʰ t͡ʃʰ kʰ/ <ph th ch ţh çh kh>
/b d d͡z d͡ʒ g/ <b d z ż g>
/dʱ d͡zʱ d͡ʒʱ gʱ/ <dh zh żh gh>
/f v θ s x h/ <f v þ s x h>
/sʰ xʰ/ <sh xh>
/m n ɳ ɲ ŋ/ <m n ň ñ ng>
/l ɾ ɻ r̝/ <l rr r rz>
/ɾ̥/ <rh>
/w j/ <w j>

/i iː ɪ y yː ɨ u uː/ <i í ì ü û y u ú>
/e eː ø øː ɤ ɤː o oː/ <e é ö/œ ô/ø ë ê o ó>
/æ æː ɑ ɑː ɒ aʊ̯/ <ä â a á å ao>

Next:

a á c c' e g i í j m n ñ ng o p p' r s t t' ts ts' u v w x y

[bbbosborne]

a á c c' e g i í j m n ñ ng o p p' r s t t' ts ts' u v w x y

<p p' t t' ts ts' c c'> /p p' t t' ts ts' k k'/
<v s r x g> /v s r x ɣ/
<j w> /j w/
<m n ñ ng> /m n ɲ ŋ/

<a á e i í o u y> /a æ e ɪ i o u y>

[Xwtek]

Let's revive this thread

a aa ae ao b bp c d dt e ee ea ei eo g gk i ii ie io j k kk l m n o oo oi oa ou p pp r s t tt w x

dtiox kou sppae rkxoas e loa tseo pket tkser gkien.

[Birdlang]

a aa ae ao b bp c d dt e ee ea ei eo g gk i ii ie io j k kk l m n o oo oi oa ou p pp r s t tt w x

/a aː ɛ ɔ b b̥ q d d̥ e eː ɛː æ ə ɡ ɡ̊ i iː je~ʲe jo~ʲo ð k kʼ l m n~Ṽ o oː wa~ʷa ɔː əː p pʼ r s t tʼ v~w~ʋ ʃ/
dtiox kou sppae rkxoas e loa tseo pket tkser gkien. /d̥ʲoʃ kəː spʼɛ r̩kʃɔːs e lɔː tsə pket tkser ɡ̊ʲen/

Next: a ā b c ch č čh d dh ḍ ḍh e ē f g gh ġ ġh h i ī j jh ǰ ǰh k kh l ḻ ḷ m n ṅ ñ ṇ o ō p ph q qh r ṟ s š t th ṭ ṭh u ū v w x y z ž
Romanization based off of Arabic, Farsi, Slavic, Native American, and Malayalam romanizations.

[bradrn]

This looks fun!

Next: a ā b c ch č čh d dh ḍ ḍh e ē f g gh ġ ġh h i ī j jh ǰ ǰh k kh l ḻ ḷ m n ṅ ñ ṇ o ō p ph q qh r ṟ s š t th ṭ ṭh u ū v w x y z ž
Romanization based off of Arabic, Farsi, Slavic, Native American, and Malayalam romanizations.

/p t ʈ k q/ ⟨p t ṭ k q⟩
/pʰ tʰ ʈʰ kʰ qʰ/ ⟨ph th ṭh kh qh⟩
/b d ɖ g ɢ/ ⟨b d ḍ g ġ⟩
/dʱ ɖʱ gʱ ɢʱ/ ⟨dh ḍh gh ġh⟩
/t͡s t͡sʰ t͡ʃ t͡ʃʰ/ ⟨c ch č čh⟩
/d͡z d͡zʱ d͡ʒ d͡ʒʱ/ ⟨j jh ǰ ǰh⟩
/f s ʂ x h/ ⟨f s š x h⟩
/v z ʐ/ ⟨v z ž⟩
/m n ɳ ɲ ŋ/ ⟨m n ṇ ñ ṅ⟩
/w j r ɻ/ ⟨w y r ṟ⟩
/l ɭ/ ⟨l ḻ⟩

/a aː e eː i iː o oː u uː l̩/ ⟨a ā e ē i ī o ō u ū ḷ⟩

[Xwtek]

This looks fun!

Next: a ā b c ch č čh d dh ḍ ḍh e ē f g gh ġ ġh h i ī j jh ǰ ǰh k kh l ḻ ḷ m n ṅ ñ ṇ o ō p ph q qh r ṟ s š t th ṭ ṭh u ū v w x y z ž
Romanization based off of Arabic, Farsi, Slavic, Native American, and Malayalam romanizations.

/p t ʈ k q/ ⟨p t ṭ k q⟩
/pʰ tʰ ʈʰ kʰ qʰ/ ⟨ph th ṭh kh qh⟩
/b d ɖ g ɢ/ ⟨b d ḍ g ġ⟩
/dʱ ɖʱ gʱ ɢʱ/ ⟨dh ḍh gh ġh⟩
/t͡s t͡sʰ t͡ʃ t͡ʃʰ/ ⟨c ch č čh⟩
/d͡z d͡zʱ d͡ʒ d͡ʒʱ/ ⟨j jh ǰ ǰh⟩
/f s ʂ x h/ ⟨f s š x h⟩
/v z ʐ/ ⟨v z ž⟩
/m n ɳ ɲ ŋ/ ⟨m n ṇ ñ ṅ⟩
/w j r ɻ/ ⟨w y r ṟ⟩
/l ɭ/ ⟨l ḻ⟩

/a aː e eː i iː o oː u uː l̩/ ⟨a ā e ē i ī o ō u ū ḷ⟩

Uh, where is the next one?

[bradrn]

Uh, where is the next one?

Oh, do we have to put one? I thought this was like the Romanization Challenge Thread, where everyone keeps on replying to the same problem until someone else suggests a new one.

Anyway. here’s a new one:

⟨a b ƃ d ď ƌ e ẹ f ɣ ƣ h i k l m n ň ŋ o ọ q r ṙ s t ť u w y z ʔ ʌ ʌ̣⟩

Vowels may be modified by the following diacritics:
⟨a á ả â a̍ ä aƞ⟩
When vowels are doubled, the modifier goes on the second vowel.
(Note: the diacritic after ⟨â⟩ is meant to be a vertical line above, but you may need to zoom in to see it)

Sample text:
⟨ƃa̍s yw kʌ̣p ƌoön γảŋsẃ hoʔ meeƞqâ dẹƞtŵ sëp ŵs ƣa ťaa̍ŋ ro⟩

_______
(PS: I’ve corrected the spelling error in the title in this reply)

[Xwtek]

⟨b ƃ d ď ƌ e ẹ f ɣ ƣ h i k l m n ň ŋ o ọ q r ṙ s t ť u w y z ʔ ʌ ʌ̣⟩

...

Sample text:
⟨ƃa̍s yw kʌ̣p ƌoön γảŋsẃ hoʔ meeƞqâ dẹƞtŵ sëp ŵs ƣa ťaa̍ŋ ro⟩

Your language doesn't have letter a.

[bradrn]

⟨b ƃ d ď ƌ e ẹ f ɣ ƣ h i k l m n ň ŋ o ọ q r ṙ s t ť u w y z ʔ ʌ ʌ̣⟩

...

Sample text:
⟨ƃa̍s yw kʌ̣p ƌoön γảŋsẃ hoʔ meeƞqâ dẹƞtŵ sëp ŵs ƣa ťaa̍ŋ ro⟩

Your language doesn't have letter a.

Excellent point! That should be fixed now.

[Xwtek]

⟨a b ƃ d ď ƌ e ẹ f ɣ ƣ h i k l m n ň ŋ o ọ q r ṙ s t ť u w y z ʔ ʌ ʌ̣⟩ /a b ɓ d ɟ ɗ ɛ e f ɣ ʕ h i k l m n ɲ ŋ ɔ o q ɽ r s t c u u̝/w i̝/j z ʔ ʌ ɤ/

Vowels may be modified by the following diacritics:
⟨a á ả â a̍ ä aƞ⟩
a = low tone modal voice
á = high modal voice
ả = low-falling breathy voice
â = high-falling creaky voice
a̍ = low tone creaky voice
ä = raising-falling broken tone.
aƞ = low tone nasalized vowel

Double letter indicates length, except in open syllable where all vowels are long. (like Thai.)

Sample text:
⟨ƃa̍s yw kʌ̣p ƌoön γảŋsẃ hoʔ meeƞqâ dẹƞtŵ sëp ŵs ƣa ťaa̍ŋ ro⟩ /ɓa̰s˩ ju̝˩ kɤp˩ ɗɔˀɔn˧˥˦ ɣa̤ŋ˧˩sʊ̝˧˥ hɔʔ˩ mɛ̃ː˩qa̰˧ dẽ˩tu̝̰˧ se̯ˀe̯p˧˥˦ u̝̰s˥˨ ʕa˩ ca̰ːŋ˩ ɽɔ˩/

There is some tone sandhi at work here. High becomes high raising after low or falling tone. Falling tone also becomes mid-tone after to low or falling tone.

Next: (Let's reassign Latin alphabet):

A B C D E F G H I K L M N O P QV R S T V X

Additionally, there is acute accent over A I V E and O. Q never occurs without V.

[bradrn]

Next: (Let's reassign Latin alphabet):

A B C D E F G H I K L M N O P QV R S T V X

Additionally, there is acute accent over A I V E and O. Q never occurs without V.

I tried to make something as different as possible to Latin, but there’s only so much you can do with that alphabet:

⟨P T C QV K⟩ /p t k kʷ ʔ/
⟨B D G⟩ /b d g/
⟨F S X H⟩ /f s ʃ h/
⟨L⟩ /l/

⟨A E I O V⟩ /a ə i u v̩/ (NB. the last ‘vowel’ is a syllabic /v/)

Acute accent represents high tone. No accent represents low tone.

EDIT: Switched all the letters from lowercase to the original Latin uppercase
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I don’t have another one for you to do right now, sorry. I’ll post a new alphabet as soon as I think of something interesting!

[bradrn]

Actually, I have another idea for the same alphabet — but hopefully this one’s much more interesting! It’s inspired by Babm (/bɔˈɑːbɔmu/), a conlang most notable for using the English alphabet as a syllabary. So can we do this with the Latin alphabet as well?

Firstly, ignoring ⟨qv⟩ for now, there are 20 letters in the Latin alphabet — a nice round number. For our purposes, this can be considered as 10 onsets × 2 vowels. I’ll set the vowels as /ɑ ə/; a reasonable set of onsets is the null onset + /p t k f s h m n j/. So we can start assigning letters to syllables:

⟨A E⟩ /ɑ ə/
⟨P T K⟩ /pɑ tɑ kɑ/
⟨B D G⟩ /pə tə kə/
⟨F S H⟩ /fɑ sɑ hɑ/
⟨V X R⟩ /fə sə hə/
⟨M N I⟩ /mɑ nɑ jɑ/
⟨O L C⟩ /mə nə jə/

Now, what about ⟨qv⟩? I’ve decided arbitrarily that it raises the vowel of the preceding syllable (maybe because ⟨V⟩ /u/ is a high vowel?). So we actually get a four-vowel system: //ɑ ə ɑQV əQV// → /ɑ ə u i/. So now we can write stuff like:
⟨AL HQVOL BQVCQVLX A PQVL VHEQV…⟩
/ɑ.nə hu.mə.nə pi.ji.nə.sə ɑ pu.nə fə.hə.i …/
Admittedly, it’s not the best rendition of the start of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights which I’ve ever seen, but I think it’s impressive that anything can be done with this writing system at all!

[Knit Tie]

Something minimalistic and cute from my latest D&D game. I'll give y'all a hint: there are two letters denoting two allophones and a single phoneme.

m n mm nn
b p pp d t tt g k kk
f s z h
v w l r

a e i o u

[bradrn]

⟨m n mm nn⟩ /m n m̥ n̥/
⟨b p pp d t tt g k kk⟩ /b p pʰ d t tʰ g k kʰ/
⟨f s z h⟩ /f s z h/
⟨v w l r⟩ [v w l r]

⟨a e i o u⟩ /a e i o u/

The allophones are [l] and [r]. (Or possibly [v] and [w].)

[bradrn]

Next challenge:

⟨a â aa ɛ b bb c cc d dƛ e ə f g i ii j k kk l ł ƛ ƛʼ m n ng hm hn hng o ô p pp r s sh t tt th u û uu wh x y⟩

Sample text:

⟨bbɛpp łat kûhmo thiin ôƛehngkkə â whaa məpon abboshə ûsəl gaj thigdƛemet ong⟩