The glebst of gleb, V2.0

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ÜberBen
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Re: The glebst of gleb, V2.0

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hmmm...
#1626953757, Huabachupuem [wabak'ubuem]

Phonology:
/p b t d t͡ɬ t͡s d͡z k g k͡p g͡b ʔ/
/f s/
/l j ɰ w/
/m n ŋ/

/i e a o u/

Transcription:
<p b t d tl ts dz c~qu g~gu cp gb h>
<f s>
<l y j hu~uh>
<m n ng>

<i e a o u>

Syllable Structure:
(C)V(C)

Allophony:
-Back vowels centralize and unround before /j/
-Obstruents assimilate in voice to the preceding obstruent or /l/
-Obstruents + /ʔ/ = Ejectives
-Nasals assimilate in POA to a following obstruent/nasal
-Vowels become creaky-voiced before /ʔ/
-Voiceless obstruents become voiced between two voiced phones

Sample Sentence:
Huahaidziod jimu esayo alaefogbon a fedzigngope? Jotlot depmeg cpatlutluscudfi yaeg quidca negbihutl!
[wa̰ʔaid͡ziod ɰimu ezajo alaevog͡bon a fed͡zigŋope|ɰod͡ɮot debmeg k͡pad͡ɮud͡ɮuskudvi jaeg kidga neg͡bḭʔut͡ɬ]

And #1701728793, Qenqembā [qeɴɢembaː]

Phonemes:
/p b mb t d nd t͡s d͡z nd͡z k g ŋg q ɴɢ/
/f ɬ s/
/l j w/
/m n/

/i e a o u/ + Length

Transcription:
<p b mb t d nd ts dz ndz k g ng q nq>
<f c s>
<l y w>
<m n>

<i e a o u> + Macron

Syllable Structure:
(C)(H)V(C)
H /w y/

Allophony:
-/a/ backs to [ɑ] before an uvular stop
-Obstruents assimilate in voice to the following obstruent/nasal and become voiceless word-finally, but:
  • When de-voiced, prenasalised stops become regular
  • When voiced, /ɬ s/ turn to /l/ and /f/ is deleted
-Uvulars are deleted before /i j/
-Nasals + Stops = Prenasalized stops
-All consonants + /j/ = Palatalized consonants
-[ɑ] turns to [ʌ] after /w/ and to [ɤ] after /j/
-Semivowels become mid-high after a non-high vowel
-/a/ fronts to [æ] before /j/

Sample Sentence:
Ab pēkīp dāwēts ē lo uindā ātso ndimowin diatēfyīmbō. Cāqbindz īmwūn feqyī guf tūnd wūmbndyūsat.
[ap peːkiːp daːo̯eːt͡s eː lo uindaː aːt͡so ndimoo̯in diateːfʲiːmboː|ɬɑːɢbit͡s iːmwuːn fee̯iː guf tuːt wuːmbndʲuːsat]
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Zaarin
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Re: The glebst of gleb, V2.0

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I like Huabachubuem: it feels Mesoamerican. And relatively human. :p
But if of ships I now should sing, what ship would come to me?
What ship would bear me ever back across so wide a Sea?
ÜberBen
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Re: The glebst of gleb, V2.0

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Zaarin wrote: Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:03 am I like Huabachubuem: it feels Mesoamerican. And relatively human. :p
Y'know, I actually nicknamed Huabachubuem "African Nahuatl" before it got its name, and intentionally based its transcription on Nahuatl's.
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Re: The glebst of gleb, V2.0

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I gotta stop reading this thread at work. Im breaking out into laughter and getting weird looks, and i dont think explaining what I'm cracking up about would help any lol
ÜberBen
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Re: The glebst of gleb, V2.0

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Those seeds here are quite... unique.
#1703531435, Xnẽtĩ [xnɛ̃tĩ]

Phonemes:

/p b t t' d k k' g/
/f s x h/
/ʟ/
/m n/

/i ɛ a/ + Nasalization

Transcription:
<p b t t' d k k' g>
<f s x h>
<l>
<m n>

<i e a> + Tilde

Syllable Structure:
(C)(W)V(C)
W /t f ʟ m n/

Allophont:
-Vowels nasalize when neighboring a nasal phone
-Obstruents assimilate in voice to the preceding obstruent, but when voiced, fricatives fortit to stops and ejective stops turn to plain ones
-/h/ induces aspiration in preceding voiceless stops
-Nasals assimilate in POA to the following obstruent
-Coronal stops + /s/ = Affricates
-Voiced stops become voiceless word-finally

Sample Sentence:
Dmĩehẽ fĩbĩg xmĩmãhfaib dẽhipa nahnã ẽbẽ xẽgeib, Diẽ btãhid lak'at' t'mãbla klistax ã it'axfa ẽãh dĩt'ãfĩkagĩ.
[dmĩɛ̃hɛ̃ fĩbĩk xmĩmãhfaip dɛ̃hipa nãhnã ɛ̃bɛ̃ xɛ̃geip|dĩɛ̃ bdãhit lak'at' t'mãbʟa kʟistax ã it'axfa ɛ̃ãh dĩt'ãfĩkagĩ]

And #1707627268, Phwnôkɛ̂ [pʰṵnõgɛ̃]

Phonemes:
/p pʰ b t tʰ d t͡s t͡sʰ d͡z k kʰ g/
/h/
/r w/
/m n ŋ/

/i ḭ e ɛ a ɔ o u ṵ/ + Nasality

Transcription:
<p ph b t th d c ch z k kh g>
<h>
<r v>
<m n ŋ>

<i y e ɛ a ɔ o u w> + Circumflex

Syllable structure:
(C)V(C)
affricates and voiced stops are illegal codas

Allophony:
-Unaspirated voiceless stops are voiced between two voiced phones
-[h] + Stops = Geminates
-Stops assimilate in voice to following stops
-Nasals assimilate in POA to a following stop/nasal
-Non-bilabial consonants labialize before /w/ and word-finally, and /h/ becomes [ɰ̟̥] in the same environment
-Front vowels centralize before a semivowel
-Stops assimilate in aspiration to the following obstruent/nasal and de-aspirate word finally
-Unaspirated stops become aspirated after another aspirate

Sample Sentence:
Zŵɛ̂ŋco chô rwzŷo î mɔŋîrthaphâth zyzû? Thi dôph phurnɔ̂ŵzɔ bekh ɛ̂khŷm ŋyŷv.
[d͡zṵ̃ɛ̃nd͡zo t͡sʰõ rṵd͡zḭ̃o ĩ mɔŋĩrtʰapʰãtʷ d͡zḭd͡zũ|tʰi dõp pʰurnɔ̃ṵ̃d͡zɔ bekʷ ɛ̃kʰḭ̃m ŋḭɨ̰̃w]
ÜberBen
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Re: The glebst of gleb, V2.0

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And so, batch #3 of seeds is done. How 'bout the seeds you all found?
#1710019391, Jhasu [d͡ʒasu]

Phonemes:
/p b t d t͡ʃ d͡ʒ c ɟ k g ʔ/
/f s ʃ ç x/
/l j w/
/m n/

/i ɛ a ɔ u/

Transcription:
<p b t d ch jh c j k g q>
<f s xh x h>
<l y w>
<m n>

<i e a o u>

Syllable Structure:
(C)V

Allophony:
-Non-front vowels become front before a palatal consonant, but /a/ becomes [ɛ]
-Dorsal consonants labialize after a non-low rounded vowel
-Mid-low vowels become mid-high before /j/
-Vowels become creaky-voiced after /ʔ/
-All consonants except palatals and semivowels palatalize before a non-low front vowel, but [ʔ ʔʷ] become [j ɥ]

Sample Sentence:
Bujhi kilu qabo qae hu ojiyixa, poqamicu bu maolou idayatia tufo.
[bud͡ʑi kʲilu ʔa̰bɔ ʔa̰ɛ xu œɟʷijiça|pɔʔa̰mʲicu bu maɔlɔu idejatʲia tufɔ]

And #1728239109, Imhunh [im̥un̥]

Phonemes:
/p pʰ b t tʰ d ɟ k kʰ g kʷ gʷ ʔ/
/s z h/
/ʋ l j/
/m m̥ n n̥/

/i ɛ a ɔ u/

Transcription:
<p ph b t th d j k kh g kw gw '>
<s z h>
<v l y>
<m mh n nh>

<i e a o u>

Syllable Structure:
(C)V(K)
K /kʷ gʷ h ʋ l j m m̥ n n̥/
(The labialized velars are written <k g> when syllable-final)

Allophony:
-Rounded vowels centralize before an coronal consonant
-/j/ turns to [ɛ̯] after a lax vowel
-All consonants except [kʷ gʷ], labials and semivowels labialize before one of [kʷ gʷ]
-Dorsal stops labialize after /u/, but [ɟ] becomes [gʷ]
-Nasals assimilate in POA to the following obstruent/nasal

Sample Sentence:
Khimhtig'u am noekhen konhe kwo mhaphu. Ujaphoja mhem mheaduk 'oa ese ui?
[kʰin̥tigʷʔu am nɔɛkʰɛn kɔn̥ɛ kʷɔ m̥apʰu|ʉgʷapʰɞɟa m̥ɛm m̥ɛadukʷ ʔɔa ɛsɛ ui]
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Re: The glebst of gleb, V2.0

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I think I’m going to have some weird ones!
Mbenje /mbɛːnd͡ʒɛː/
/m n̻ ŋ/ m n ŋ
/mb mɓ̰ nd̻ nɗ̻̰ nd͡ʒ ŋg/ mb mbh nd ndh nj ŋg
/b ɓ̰ t̻ d̻ ɗ̻̰ t͡ʃ d͡ʒ k g ʔ/ b bh t d dh č j k g c
/ɸ s̻ ʃ ç x xʷ/ p s x ch h f
/ɾ̻ ɾ̻̰/ r rr
/j w w̰/ j w wh


/i iː uː ɛː ɔː ɑː/ í i u e o a
Syllable structure

(C1)V(C2)(C3)

C1: a consonant
V: a vowel
C2: a consonant
C3: a consonant

Allophony

Alveolar obstruents or nasals [n̻ nɗ̻̰ d̻ ...] become palatoalveolar [ṉ ʔ d͡ʒ ...] after a palatoalveolar obstruent. [nd̻ t̻ d̻] become [nd͡ʒ t͡ʃ d͡ʒ]; implosives become ejective glottal stops.
Vowels and semivowels [j i ɛː ...] become nasal [j̃ ĩ ɛ̃ː ...] before a nasal.
Non-glottalised non-glottal fricative obstruents [mb d̻ ɸ ...] persistently assimilate in voice to a preceding non-nasal consonant other than resonant. After a voiced stop, palatal or velar obstruents other than stops become resonants; [s̻] become [ɾ̻]; [ɸ] become [w]; [ʃ] are deleted; [x] become [j]. After a voiceless consonant, prenasalised stops become non-prenasalised.
Back vowels and semivowels [w̃ w̰ ɔː ...] become central [j̃ j̰ ɜː ...] before a palatal consonant. Semivowels become unrounded palatal; rounded vowels become unrounded.
Non-back non-low vowels [i ĩː ɛː ...] assimilate in frontness or palatalisation to a following semivowel.
Non-bilabial consonants other than semivowels or [xʷ], i.e. [n̻ d̻ d͡ʒ ...], persistently become rounded [n̻ʷ d̻ʷ d͡ʒʷ ...] before a rounded consonant. [ʔ] become [j̰]; [ç] become [x̟ʷ].
Fricatives [ɸ ʃ x̟ʷ ...] become stops or nasals [p t͡ʃ k̟ʷ ...] after a nasal consonant except for a stop or nasal.
Non-pharyngeal velar obstruents or nasals [ŋ ŋgʷ kʷ ...] become palatal [ɲ ŋg̟ʷ k̟ʷ ...] before a non-low front vowel or a front semivowel. Rounded obstruents or nasals become velar.
Non-ejective voiced vowels and non-glottal stop voiced consonants [m d̻ ĩ ...] persistently become creaky-voiced [m̰ d̻̰ ḭ̃ ...] after a creaky-voiced consonant.
Non-sibilant coronal coronal nasals [n̻ n̻ʷ ṉ̰ ...] persistently become nasals and assimilate in place of articulation to a following obstruent or nasal.
Obstruents [mb t̻ nd͡ʒ ...] assimilate in voice to a following non-nasal consonant other than resonant. Before a voiced stop, palatal or velar obstruents other than stops become resonants; [s̻ s̻ʷ ʃʷ] become [ɾ̻ ɾ̻ʷ j]; [x] become [j]; [ʃ] are deleted; [x̟ʷ] become [j]; [ɸ] become [w]. Before a voiceless consonant, prenasalised stops become non-prenasalised; implosives become non-implosive.
Palatoalveolar stops or nasals [ṉ nd͡ʒ̰ d͡ʒ ...] become non-affricate non-coronal palatal [ɲ ɲɟ̰ ɟ ...] before a palatal obstruent or nasal. Rounded stops or nasals become velar.
High semivowels [j̃ w̃ j̰ ...] become mid-high [ẽ̯ õ̯ e̯̰ ...] after a non-high vowel.
Palatal obstruents or nasals [ɲ̰ cʼ ɲ ...] persistently become alveopalatal [ṉ̰ʲ t͡ɕʼ ṉʲ ...] before a palatoalveolar obstruent or nasal. Stops become affricates.
Coronal obstruents or nasals [n̻ tʼ̻ d͡z̻ʷ ...] assimilate in anteriority and retroflexion to a following coronal fricative. Before a palatoalveolar fricative, non-implosive non-affricate stops become affricate sibilants; [nɗ̻̰ʷ ɗ̻̰ʷ] become [j̰ j̰]; [nɗ̻̰ ɗ̻̰] become [ʔ ʔ].
Back vowels and semivowels [w̃ o̯ ɔː̰ ...] become central [j̃ e̯ ɜː̰ ...] after a front semivowel. Semivowels become unrounded front; rounded vowels become unrounded.
Non-glottalised stops [mb c nd͡ʑ ...] persistently become glottalised [mb̰ cʼ nd͡ʑ̰ ...] before a glottal stop.
Prenasalised stops [mb ŋg̟̰ʷ nd͡z̻ʷ ...] become non-prenasalised [b g̟̰ʷ d͡z̻ʷ ...] after an obstruent.
Misiw /miɕiw/
m n ɲ ŋ
t t͡s t͡ɕ k ʔ
f v s z ɕ ʑ x ɣ
ɾ j w
Romanized as
m n ny ng/n (at end of words)
t ts ch/(ti) k q
f v s z sh/(si) j/(zi) h gh
i ɛ a
Romanized as
i e a
Syllable structure

(C1)V(C2)

C1: a consonant
V: a vowel
C2: a non-front consonant (i.e. not /ɲ t͡ɕ ɕ ʑ j/) other than /t͡s/

Allophony

Before an alveopalatal obstruent, [t] become [t͡θ̺].
Non-nasal consonants other than semivowels [t t͡ɕ ɕ ...] persistently assimilate in voice to a following obstruent or nasal. Before a voiced obstruent or nasal, [ʔ] are deleted.
[a] become [ɑ] before a velar semivowel.
Front vowels and semivowels [j i ɛ] become central [ ɨ ɜ] after a velar semivowel. [j] are deleted.
Stops [t g t͡s ...] become glottalised [tʼ g̰ t͡sʼ ...] before a non-nasal glottal stop.
Non-glottalised non-nasal resonants [ɾ̥ ɾ j w] persistently assimilate in voice to a preceding non-nasal consonant other than resonant.
Non-glottal fricative obstruents [t t͡θ̺ʼ d͡ʑ ...] assimilate in voice to a preceding non-nasal consonant other than resonant.
Palatal nasals [ɲ] persistently become alveopalatal [nʲ̱] before an alveopalatal obstruent.
Short non-glottalised voiced stops other than obstruent sibilants [d g d͡ð̺] become fricatives [z ɣ z] between a vowel or semivowel and a vowel or semivowel. Stops other than [g] become sibilants.
Short non-glottalised non-prenasalised velar stops [k g] become fricatives [x ɣ] between a vowel or semivowel and a vowel or semivowel.
Stops [t g t͡sʼ ...] assimilate in glottalisation to a preceding non-nasal consonant other than resonant.
Non-pharyngeal consonants other than semivowels or [ɲ], i.e. [m g̰ d͡ʑ ...], assimilate in palatalisation to a following consonant and become non-front word-finally. Before a front consonant, apical obstruents or nasals become alveopalatal laminal; non-affricate stops become affricates; non-sibilant coronal stops become sibilants; velar obstruents or nasals other than [ŋ] become coronal palatalised; [ʔ] become [j̰].
Nasals [m n nʲ̱ ...] become nasals and assimilate in place of articulation to a following obstruent or nasal.
[ɑ] become [a] after a front consonant.
After a palatoalveolar obstruent or nasal, non-sibilant coronal stops become non-retroflexed alveolar; non-sibilant coronal affricates become non-retroflexed alveolar sibilants; non-sibilant coronal non-affricate stops become non-retroflexed alveolar affricates.
Nasals [m ɱʲ nʲ̱ ...] become non-nasal and assimilate in resonancy to a preceding non-nasal consonant other than semivowel. After [ʔ], labial nasals become non-labial uvular rounded; [mʲ ɱʲ nʲ̱] become [w w ɾ]; [ṉ] become [ɾ]; [ŋ] are deleted. After a tap, labial nasals become non-labial velar rounded semivowels; [mʲ ɱʲ nʲ̱] become [w w ɾ]; [ṉ] become [ɾ]; [ŋ] are deleted. After an obstruent, [ṉ nʲ̱] become [d͡ʒ d͡ʑ]; [ɲ] become [d͡ʑ].
[ɛ ɜ] persistently become [e ɘ] before a high semivowel.
[ɑ] persistently become [a] before a palatal semivowel.
Non-glottalised voiceless stops [t t͡θ̺ t͡ʃ ...] become ejective [tʼ t͡θ̺ʼ t͡ʃʼ ...] before a glottal stop.
[n ṉ t tʼ d d̰ t͡θ̺ t͡θ̺ʼ d͡ð̺ d͡ð̺̰ t͡s t͡sʼ d͡z d͡z̰ t͡ʃ t͡ʃʼ d͡ʒ d͡ʒ̰ s z ʃ ʒ ɾ̥ ɾ ɾ̥ʲ ɾʲ] persistently assimilate in laminality to a following coronal consonant. Before a palatoalveolar obstruent or nasal, palatalised taps become non-front. Before an apical consonant, laminal obstruents or nasals become alveolar.
Non-high vowels [e ɛ a ...] persistently become nasal [ẽ ɛ̃ ã ...] before a nasal.
Labial obstruents or nasals [m b f ...] persistently assimilate in labiodentality to a following labial obstruent or nasal.
Non-ejective voiced vowels and non-glottal stop voiced consonants other than fricatives [m d̻ i ...] persistently become creaky-voiced [m̰ d̰̻ ḭ ...] before a creaky-voiced consonant.
Ɲacaar /ɲaʧ̺aːr/
/m n̻ ɲ/ m n ɲ
/p b ɓ̰ t̻ d̻ ɗ̻̰ t͡ʃ̺ d͡ʒ̺ ɗ̱̺̰ k k͡p/ p b ɓ t d ɗ c j ƴ k kp
/s̻ z̻ z̻ˤ ʃ̺ ʒ̺ ʒ̺ˤ ç ɣ xʷ h/ s z ẓ ʃ ʒ ʒ̣ ƕ ɣ xw h
/r̥̻ r̻ j̥ j w̥ w/ rh r yh y wh w

/i iː u uː ɛ ɛː a aː/ i ii u uu ɛ ɛɛ a aa
Syllable structure

(C1)(R)V(C2)

C1: a consonant
R: a voiced resonant; i.e. one of /r̻ j w/
V: a vowel
C2: a consonant

Allophony

Nasals [m n̻ ɲ] persistently become nasals and assimilate in place of articulation to a following obstruent.
Velar semivowels [w̥ w] become palatal [j̥ j] before a palatal semivowel.
Unrounded central vowels [a aː] persistently become back [ɑ ɑː] before a pharyngealised fricative.
Non-pharyngealised consonants [p ɗ̱̺̰ k ...] persistently become front [pʲ ɗ̱̺ʲ̰ c ...] before a palatal consonant. Rounded obstruents or nasals become unrounded; [r̻] become [j]; [r̥̻] become [hʲ].
Non-nasal voiceless resonants [r̥̻ j̥ w̥] become voiced [r̻ j w] after a nasal.
Front mid-low vowels [ɛ ɛː] persistently become low [æ æː] before a pharyngealised fricative.
Front low vowels [æ æː] persistently become non-front [a aː].
Non-prenasalised voiced obstruents [b ɗ̻̰ z̻ˤ ...] become prenasalised [mb nɗ̻̰ nz̻ˤ ...] after a nasal.
Short trills [r̥̻ r̻] become taps [ɾ̥̻ ɾ̻] between a vowel or resonant and a vowel or resonant.
Non-pharyngealised non-front coronal consonants [n̻ ɗ̻̰ s̻ ...] persistently become palatalised [nʲ̻ ɗʲ̻̰ sʲ̻ ...] before a front vowel or semivowel. [r̥̻ ɾ̥̻] become [hʲ hʲ]; [r̻ ɾ̻] become [j j].
[mɓ̰ mɓʲ̰ nɗ̻̰ nɗʲ̻̰ nɗ̱̺̰ nɗ̱̺ʲ̰ c͡p k͡p p pʲ t̻ tʲ̻ c k ɓ̰ ɓʲ̰ ɗ̻̰ ɗʲ̻̰ ɗ̱̺̰ ɗ̱̺ʲ̰ t͡ʃ̺ t͡ɕ̺] persistently become aspirated before a glottal fricative or word-finally. Creaky-voiced implosives become unaspirated; creaky-voiced implosives become non-creaky-voiced pharyngealised nasals.
Non-back vowels [i ɛ æː ...] assimilate in frontness or palatalisation to a following semivowel.
Non-pharyngealised obstruents other than [s̻ sʲ̻ ʃ̺ ɕ̺ ç xʷ], i.e. [mb pʲ nd͡ʑ̺ ...], assimilate in glottalisation to a preceding non-nasal consonant other than resonant. After a creaky-voiced implosive, obstruents other than stops become non-glottalised; obstruents other than stops become pharyngealised; non-creaky-voiced voiced stops become ejective; aspirated stops become unaspirated; non-creaky-voiced prenasalised stops become non-prenasalised.
Coronal obstruents or nasals [n̻ d̻ t͡ɕ̺ʼ ...] persistently assimilate in anteriority and retroflexion to a following obstruent sibilant. Before a palatoalveolar obstruent sibilant, alveolar stops become affricate sibilants.
Coronal obstruents or nasals [n̻ ɗ ɗ͡ʒ̰ ...] persistently assimilate in anteriority and retroflexion to a following obstruent sibilant. Before a palatoalveolar obstruent sibilant, non-affricate laminal stops become affricate sibilants.
Coronal obstruents or nasals [n̻ ɗ̱̺ʲ d͡ʑ̺ ...] persistently assimilate in anteriority and retroflexion to a following coronal consonant. Before a palatoalveolar obstruent or nasal, non-affricate laminal stops become affricate sibilants.
[w̥ w ɑ ɑː] become central before a front consonant. Semivowels become unrounded palatal.
[mɓ mɓ̰ mɓʲ mɓʲ̰ nɗ̻ nɗ̻̰ nɗʲ̻ nɗʲ̻̰ nɗ nɗ̰ nɗʲ nɗʲ̰ nɗ̱̺ nɗ̱̺̰ nɗ̱̺ʲ nɗ̱̺ʲ̰ c͡p k͡p p pʲ t̻ tʲ̻ c k ɓ ɓ̰ ɓʲ ɓʲ̰ ɗ̻ ɗ̻̰ ɗʲ̻ ɗʲ̻̰ ɗ ɗ̰ ɗʲ ɗʲ̰ ɗ̱̺ ɗ̱̺̰ ɗ̱̺ʲ ɗ̱̺ʲ̰ nɗ͡z̻ nɗ͡z̻̰ nɗ͡zʲ̻ nɗ͡zʲ̻̰ nɗ͡ʒ nɗ͡ʒ̰ nɗ͡ʑ nɗ͡ʑ̰ t͡s̻ t͡sʲ̻ t͡s t͡sʲ t͡ʃ t͡ɕ t͡ʃ̺ t͡ɕ̺ ɗ͡z̻ ɗ͡z̻̰ ɗ͡zʲ̻ ɗ͡zʲ̻̰ ɗ͡ʒ ɗ͡ʒ̰ ɗ͡ʑ ɗ͡ʑ̰] persistently become aspirated after an aspirated consonant. Voiced implosives become unaspirated; implosives become nasals; creaky-voiced implosives become non-glottalised pharyngealised; voiced affricates become non-sibilant coronal nasals.
Obstruents other than ejective stops [mb ɗʲ̰ ɗ͡ʑ ...] assimilate in voice to a following non-nasal consonant other than resonant. Before a voiced obstruent, aspirated stops become unaspirated. Before a voiceless consonant other than a resonant, prenasalised obstruents become non-prenasalised; implosives become non-implosive.
Tense vowels and semivowels [j̥ w ɨ ...] become non-high [e̥̯ o̯ ɘ ...] after a pharyngealised obstruent or nasal.
After a pharyngealised obstruent or nasal, [h hʲ] become [ħ e̥̯].
Before a glottal fricative, implosives become unaspirated voiced nasals; implosives become unaspirated voiced nasals; creaky-voiced implosives become non-glottalised unaspirated pharyngealised voiced nasals; implosive affricates become non-sibilant coronal unaspirated voiced nasals.
Mid vowels [e ɘː ɛ ...] become low [a aː æ ...] before a mid-high semivowel. Mid-high vowels become lax; [e eː] become [a aː].
Non-sibilant coronal coronal stops [nd̻ t̻ʰ ṯ̺ʲ ...] persistently become sibilants [nd͡z̻ t͡s̻ʰ t͡ɕ̺ ...] before a non-nasal coronal fricative.
Palatoalveolar stops or nasals [ṉ ɗ̱̺ʲ t͡ɕ ...] become non-affricate non-coronal palatal [ɲ ɟ c ...] before a palatal obstruent or nasal. Implosives become non-implosive; creaky-voiced implosives become voiceless; prenasalised creaky-voiced implosives become non-prenasalised.
Glottalised stops [mɓ̰ ṯ̺ʲʼ nɗ͡ʒ̺̰ ...] become non-glottalised [mɓ ṯ̺ʲ nɗ͡ʒ̺ ...] before a non-nasal phone except for a non-nasal vowel or resonant.
Tense vowels and semivowels [j̥ o̥̯ uː ...] persistently become lax [ɪ̥̯ ɔ̥̯ ʊː ...] after a pharyngealised consonant.
Tense vowels and semivowels [j̥ o̥̯ uː ...] persistently become lax [ɪ̥̯ ɔ̥̯ ʊː ...] after a pharyngealised consonant.
[w̥ w ʊ̥̯ ʊ̯ o̥̯ o̯ ɔ̥̯ ɔ̯ ɑ ɑː ɒ ɒː] become central after a front consonant. Semivowels become unrounded front; rounded vowels become unrounded.
Nasals [ɲ͡m nʲ̻ nʲ̱ˤ ...] become nasals and assimilate in place of articulation to the previous phone between an obstruent or nasal and an obstruent or nasal.
Tense vowels and semivowels [j̥ o̥̯ uː ...] persistently become lax [ɪ̥̯ ɔ̥̯ ʊː ...] before a pharyngealised consonant.
Mid vowels and semivowels [e̥̯ ɔ̥̯ oː ...] become low [æ̥̯ ɒ̥̯ ɒː ...] after a pharyngealised consonant. Mid-high vowels and semivowels become lax; [e eː] become [a aː].
Non-pharyngealised non-ejective voiced vowels and non-pharyngeal non-glottal stop voiced consonants other than [e̯ o̯], i.e. [ɲ͡m nd͡z ʒ̺ ...], persistently become creaky-voiced [ɲ͡mˤ t͡sʼ ʒ̺ˤ ...] after a creaky-voiced implosive. Consonants other than stops become non-glottalised; consonants other than stops or tense semivowels become pharyngealised; non-implosive stops become ejective; non-implosive prenasalised stops become non-prenasalised; tense semivowels become uvular.
Non-pharyngealised non-ejective voiced vowels and non-pharyngeal non-glottal stop voiced semivowels other than [e̯ o̯], i.e. [j uː ɛ ...], become creaky-voiced [e̯ uː̰ ɛ̰ ...] before a creaky-voiced implosive. Semivowels become non-glottalised; lax semivowels become pharyngealised; tense semivowels become uvular.
Non-near-high vowels and uvular semivowels other than central low vowels [e̥̯ ḛ ɜː ...] assimilate in lowness to a following semivowel. Before a low semivowel, mid-high vowels and semivowels become lax; front mid-high vowels become non-front.
Vowels [i ʊː ʌ̰ ...] become nasal [ĩ ʊ̃ː ʌ̰̃ ...] before a nasal.
Palatal obstruents or nasals [çˤ ɲˤ cʼ ...] persistently become alveopalatal [ɕ̺ˤ ṉ̺ʲˤ t͡ɕ̺ʼ ...] before a palatoalveolar obstruent or nasal. Stops become affricates; bilabial stops or nasals become non-bilabial rounded.
Coronal consonants [n̻ nd͡zʲ ɗ͡zʲ ...] persistently assimilate in laminality to a following coronal consonant. Before a laminal consonant, non-sibilant coronal palatoalveolar stops become affricate sibilants.
High vowels and semivowels [j̥ ɨ̰ ɪ̃ ...] become non-high [e̥̯ ɘ̰ ɛ̃ ...] before a pharyngealised consonant.
I will call it Weird African for reasons.
Cukpi
/m n/ m n
/p t t͡s k ʔ/ p t c k h
/f s/ f s
/r/ r
/l j/ l j

/i u æ a/ i u ä a
Syllable structure

(C1)V(C2)

C1: a consonant
V: a vowel
C2: a consonant other than /t͡s r/

Allophony

Vowels [i u æ a] become nasal [ĩ ũ æ̃ ã] before a nasal.
Stops [p t k t͡s] persistently become ejective [pʼ tʼ kʼ t͡sʼ] after a non-nasal glottal stop.
Non-sibilant coronal alveolar stops [t tʼ] become sibilants [t͡s t͡sʼ] before a non-nasal alveolar fricative.
Tense vowels and semivowels [j i u ...] become lax [ɛ̯ ɛ ɔ ...] before a vowel or resonant except for a tense vowel or a non-palatoalveolar tense semivowel.
Before an alveolar approximant lateral, obstruent sibilants become non-sibilant coronal alveolar obstruent laterals; [t tʼ] become [t͡ɬ t͡ɬʼ].
Before one of [s r], [t͡ɬ t͡ɬʼ] become [t tʼ]; [ɬ] become [r̥]. Before one of [ɬ l], obstruent sibilants become non-sibilant coronal alveolar obstruents; [t tʼ] become [t͡ɬ t͡ɬʼ].
Non-pharyngeal consonants [ʔ t͡s tʼ ...] persistently become front [j t͡ɕ t͡ɕʼ ...] before a front semivowel. Alveolar obstruents or nasals become alveopalatal laminal; trills become taps; [t tʼ] become [t͡ɕ t͡ɕʼ]; [ʔ] become [j].
Alveolar apical consonants [n t͡s r ...] persistently become laminal [n̻ t͡s̻ r̻ ...] before an alveopalatal laminal obstruent or nasal. Taps become non-front.
[ɛ̯] become [æ̯] after a low vowel.
Nasals [m mʲ n ...] persistently become nasals and assimilate in place of articulation to a following obstruent.
Non-near-high vowels and uvular semivowels [ɛ̯ ɛ̃ æ ...] assimilate in lowness to a following semivowel. seed 1738131417


Edit: @ÜberBen
You have some awesome ones that rival Ubykh and Taa in the level of kitchensinkery, I’m amazed at some of those phonologies. And I think /ŋ͝mg͝b/ is attested in a few African languages, maybe a Kru language from Cote D’Ivoire if I’m not mistaken.
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Re: The glebst of gleb, V2.0

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Before an alveopalatal obstruent, [t] become [t͡θ̺].
...This is so ridiculous I love it. :lol:
But if of ships I now should sing, what ship would come to me?
What ship would bear me ever back across so wide a Sea?
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Re: The glebst of gleb, V2.0

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Even more
Sâse
/m̥ʰ m n̥ʰ n ɲ̥ʰ ɲ/ ḿ m ń n ɲ́ ɲ
/pʰ p b tʰ t d t͡ʃʰ t͡ʃ d͡ʒ kʰ k qʰ q/ ṕ p b t́ t d ć c j ḱ k ǵ g
/f v θ̺ ð̺ s z ʃ ʒ x ɣ X ʁ/ f v þ ð s z š ž h ĝ ĥ ǧ
/l̃ j̃ w̥̃ w̃/ l̃ j̃ ẃ w̃
/ɺ/ r
/l j w/ l j w

/i ĩ u ũ e ẽ o õ a ã/ i î u û e ê o ô a â
Syllable structure

(C)V

C: a consonant
V: a vowel

What did I just get?????
seed 1482095976.
/m n ɳ/ m n ṇ
/p pʼ b ɓ̰ t tʼ d ɗ̰ t͡s t͡sʼ d͡z ʈ ʈʼ ɖ ɗ̢̰ ɖ͡ʐ kʲ kʲʼ gʲ ɠʲ̰ k kʼ g ɠ̰ kʷ kʼʷ gʷ ɠ̰ʷ/ p p̓ b b̓ t t̓ d d̓ c c̓ j ṭ ṭ̓ ḍ ḍ̓ ǰ kʸ k̓ʸ gʸ g̓ʸ k k̓ g g̓ kʷ k̓ʷ gʷ g̓ʷ
/f θ̺ s z˂̰ ʂ ʐ˂̰/ f θ s z ṣ ẓ
/ɾ ɽ/ r ṛ
/l ɭ j ɰ w/ l ḷ j ŷ w

/i ĩ ɯ ɯ̃ u ũ e ẽ ɤ ɤ̃ o õ ɔ ɔ̃ a ã/ i ï y ÿ u ü e ë o ö ó ő ò ȍ a ä
Syllable structure

(C1)V(C2)(C3)

C1: a consonant
V: a vowel
C2: one of /m n ɳ b ɾ ɽ l ɭ j ɰ w/
C3: a consonant other than one of /t͡s t͡sʼ θ̺/ (/t͡s t͡sʼ θ̺/)

Allophony

Voiced vowels and semivowels [u ɔ̃ ĩ ...] persistently become creaky-voiced [ṵ ɔ̰̃ ḭ̃ ...] before a creaky-voiced obstruent. Semivowels become implosives.
Obstruents other than implosives [p kʲ t͡s ...] assimilate in voice to a following obstruent and become voiceless word-finally. Before a voiced obstruent, ejective stops become implosive; non-glottalised obstruents other than stops become stops; [t͡sʼ] become [z˂̰]; [f] become . Before a voiceless obstruent, implosive fricatives become voiced; implosive fricatives become non-sibilant coronal stops.
Non-retroflex alveolar consonants [n ɗ̰ θ̺ ...] persistently become retroflex [ɳ ɗ̢̰ ʂ ...] after a retroflex consonant. [θ̺] become [ʂ].
Alveolar consonants [n ɗ̰ θ̺ ...] persistently become retroflex [ɳ ɗ̢̰ ʂ ...] after a retroflex consonant. [θ̺] become [ʂ].
Rounded consonants other than [w], i.e. [kʷ kʼʷ gʷ ɠ̰ʷ], become unrounded [k kʼ g ɠ̰] before a consonant.
Labial obstruents or nasals [m pʼ ɓ̰ ...] persistently assimilate in labiodentality to a following labial obstruent or nasal.
Coronal obstruents other than [ʂ ʐ˂̰], i.e. [t ɖ ʈ͡ʂ ...], persistently assimilate in sibilancy to a following coronal fricative. Before [θ̺], affricates become non-affricate. Before a fricative sibilant, non-implosive non-affricate stops become affricates; [ɗ̰ ɗ̢̰] become [z˂̰ ʐ˂̰].
Nasals [m ɱ n ɳ] become nasals and assimilate in place of articulation to a following obstruent.
Obstruents other than [ɓ̰ ɗ̰ ɗ̢̰ ɠʲ̰ ɠ̰ ɠ̰ʷ z˂̰ ʐ˂̰], i.e. [p ɖ t͡s ...], become nasals [m̥ ɳ n̥ ...] after a nasal. Glottalised obstruents become stops; ejective stops become voiced; obstruents other than stops become nasals; non-glottalised affricates become non-sibilant coronal nasals; [p̪ʼ ɓ̪̰ f] become [ɓ̰ ɓ̰ m̥]; [s ʂ] become [n̥ ɳ̥]; [t͡sʼ ʈ͡ʂʼ] become [z˂̰ ʐ˂̰].
Coronal consonants [n̥ ɖ θ̺ ...] assimilate in anteriority and retroflexion to a following coronal obstruent other than non-affricate stop or nasal. Before a retroflex obstruent sibilant, [θ̺ ð̺˂̰] become [ʂ ʐ˂̰].
Unrounded obstruents or nasals other than retroflex consonants [m̥ p̪ ɓ̪̰ ...] persistently assimilate in palatalisation to a following consonant. Before a palatal consonant, alveolar obstruents or nasals become alveopalatal laminal; [t tʼ d] become [t͡ɕ t͡ɕʼ d͡ʑ]; [θ̺ ð̺˂̰] become [ɕ ʑ˂̰]; [ɗ̰] become [##˂ʲ̱]. Before a non-palatal consonant, palatalised velar stops or nasals become non-palatalised velar velar.
Palatal stops or nasals [ɲ̥ ɟ ŋʲ̥ ...] persistently become alveopalatal [nʲ̱̥ d͡ʑ nʲ̱̥ ...] before an alveopalatal obstruent or nasal. Non-implosive stops become affricates.
Coronal consonants [n̥ ɗ̰ d͡ʑ ...] persistently assimilate in laminality to a following coronal consonant. Before an apical consonant, laminal obstruents or nasals become non-front.
Front vowels and semivowels [j ĩ ḛ ...] persistently become non-front [ɰ̟ ɨ̃ ɘ̰ ...] before a retroflex consonant.
Stops other than non-affricate implosives [p ʈ̻ ##̱̺˂ ...] persistently assimilate in glottalisation to a preceding obstruent. After a glottalised obstruent, non-implosive voiced stops become implosive; voiced affricates become fricatives.
Non-retroflex coronal consonants [n̻̥ ##˂ʲ̱ d͡ʒ̺ ...] become retroflex [ɳ̻̥ ##̢˂̻ ɖ͡ʐ ...] after a retroflex consonant. Alveopalatal obstruents or nasals become non-front; non-sibilant coronal fricatives become sibilants; [ɗ̱̺̰] become [ʐ˂̰].
Non-low central vowels and velar or uvular fronted semivowels [ɰ̟ ɨ̃ ɘ̰ ...] become front [j ĩ ḛ ...] before a front consonant.
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Re: The glebst of gleb, V2.0

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Urgghhh, ooh, my head

/m m̰ n̻ n̰̻/
/pʰ p b b̰ t̻ʰ t̻ tʼ̻ d̻ d̰̻ t͡s̻ʰ t͡s̻ t͡sʼ̻ ṯʰ ṯ tʼ̱ ḏ d̰̱ t͡ʃʰ t͡ʃ t͡ʃʼ kʰ k kʼ g g̰ ʔ/
/ɓ̰ ɗ̰̻ ɗ̰̱/
/s̻ z̻ ʃ ʒ/
/l̻ l̰̻/

/i ḭ iː ḭː u ṵ uː ṵː/
/ɛ ɛ̰ ɛː ɛ̰ː ɔ ɔ̰ ɔː ɔ̰ː/
/a a̰ aː a̰ː/


(C1)V(C2)
thank god
C1: a consonant
V: a vowel
C2: a consonant

Non-creaky-voiced voiced vowels [i uː ɔ ...] become creaky-voiced [ḭ ṵː ɔ̰ ...] after a creaky-voiced consonant.
Non-creaky-voiced voiced vowels [i uː ɔ ...] persistently become creaky-voiced [ḭ ṵː ɔ̰ ...] after a creaky-voiced consonant.
Non-glottalised unaspirated obstruents [p ṯ t͡ʃ ...] persistently assimilate in voice to a preceding non-nasal consonant other than approximant lateral.
Non-nasal consonants other than [ʔ], i.e. [pʰ ḏ t͡sʼ̻ ...], persistently assimilate in voice to a following consonant other than approximant. Before a voiced obstruent or nasal, aspirated stops become unaspirated. Before a voiceless consonant, implosives become non-implosive.
Non-lateral coronal obstruents or nasals [n̻ tʼ̱ d͡z̰̻ ...] persistently assimilate in anteriority and retroflexion to a following fricative.
[p t̻ ṯ k ɓ̰ ɗ̰̻ ɗ̰̱ t͡s̻ t͡ʃ] persistently become aspirated after an aspirated stop. Implosives become unaspirated; creaky-voiced implosives become nasals.
Non-pharyngeal consonants [m d̻ t͡s̻ ...] assimilate in palatalisation to a following consonant. Before a palatal nasal, velar stops become non-front.
Non-glottalised stops or nasals [m t̻ʰ kʰ ...] become glottalised [m̰ tʼ̻ kʼ ...] before a glottal stop. Aspirated stops become unaspirated.
Nasals [m n̰̻ nʲ̱ ...] persistently become nasals and assimilate in place of articulation to a following obstruent or nasal.
[p pʲ t̻ tʲ̻ ṯ tʲ̱ k̟ k ɓ̰ ɓ̰ʲ ɗ̰̻ ɗ̰ʲ̻ ɗ̰̱ ɗ̰ʲ̱ t͡s̻ t͡sʲ̻ t͡ʃ t͡ɕ] become aspirated before a phone except for a non-nasal vowel or approximant. Implosives become unaspirated; implosives become nasals.
Non-implosive stops [pʰ ṯʰ t͡s̻ʰ ...] assimilate in glottalisation to a preceding non-nasal consonant other than approximant lateral. After a non-nasal glottalised consonant other than an approximant, aspirated stops become unaspirated.
Non-glottalised voiced stops [b ḏ d͡z̻ ...] become creaky-voiced [b̰ d̰̱ d͡z̰̻ ...] after a glottal stop.
Palatoalveolar stops or nasals [ṉ d̰̱ t͡ʃ ...] become non-coronal palatal nasals [ɲ g̰̟ k̟ ...] before a palatal nasal. Stops become velar; implosives become ejective glottal stops.
Non-ejective voiced vowels and non-glottal stop voiced consonants other than fricatives [m d̻ lʲ̻ ...] become creaky-voiced [m̰ d̰̻ l̰ʲ̻ ...] before a creaky-voiced consonant.
when the hell did that happen
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Re: The glebst of gleb, V2.0

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Hol' up

Seed #1617839289 doesn't seem too weird:
/t k ʔ/
/f s h/
/m n/
/w ɾ j/

/i e a o u/

But here is its syllable structure:
(C1)(C2)(C3)V(G)(C4)

C1: an alveolar consonant; i.e. one of /n t s ɾ/
C2: a consonant other than /j/
C3: a consonant other than /j/
V: a vowel
G: a semivowel; i.e. one of /j w/
C4: a consonant other than /j/

Meaning that /ɾmkawh/ is a completely legitimate syllable.

gleb pls
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Re: The glebst of gleb, V2.0

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ÜberBen wrote: Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:30 amMeaning that /ɾmkawh/ is a completely legitimate syllable.
I mean, weird resonance-hierarchy-violating syllables happen in Armenian, too, but they get broken up with epenthetic vowels. I could buy /ɾmkawh/ [əɾm(ə)kawh~əɾm(ə)kaʍ].
But if of ships I now should sing, what ship would come to me?
What ship would bear me ever back across so wide a Sea?
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Re: The glebst of gleb, V2.0

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/m n̻ ɲ/ m n ñ
/p t̻ t͡ʃ k/ p t c k
/f s̻ ʃ x/ f s š h
/ɹ̻ j w/ r j u

/i y ʉ e ø o æ ɑ/ i ü ů e ö o æ a
Syllable structure

(C)V(G)(R)

C: a consonant
V: a vowel
G: one of /j w/
R: a sonorant other than /j/; i.e. one of /m n̻ ɲ ɹ̻ w/

/m n̻ ɳ/ m n ń
/p t̻ ʈ kʲ k/ p t ť c k
/f s̻ ʂ ɣʲ ɣ h hʲ/ f s ś j g h c
/r̻ r̢/ r ŕ
/l̻ ɭ j w/ l ĺ y v

/i y u ɛ œ ɔ a/ i w u e o â a
Syllable structure

(C1)V(C2)

C1: a consonant
V: a vowel
C2: a consonant

This phonology looks Ok
/m n/ m n
/p t t͡s k/ p t c k
/θ̺ s h/ z s h
/r/ r
/l/ l

/i u e o a/ i u e o a

But LOOK AT THIS!!!
Syllable structure

(C1)(C2)V(C3)(C4)

C1: a consonant
C2: one of /p r l/
V: a vowel
C3: one of /m n p k r l/
C4: a consonant other than /t͡s θ̺/
That means spakl or zrukp could be a word.
Allophony

Stops [p t k t͡s] persistently become aspirated [pʰ tʰ kʰ t͡sʰ] after a glottal fricative.
Non-sibilant coronal alveolar obstruents [tʰ t θ̺] become laterals [t͡ɬʰ t͡ɬ ɬ] before an alveolar approximant lateral. Obstruents other than [θ̺] become affricates.
Stops [pʰ t t͡ɬʰ ...] persistently assimilate in aspiration to a following consonant other than resonant.
Before [l], [r] are deleted. Before [r], [l] become [r].
Nasals [m n] persistently become nasals and assimilate in place of articulation to a following obstruent or nasal.
Non-pharyngeal velar stops or nasals [ŋ kʰ k] become velar fronted [ŋ̟ kʰ̟ k̟] after a non-low front vowel.
Non-bilabial obstruents or nasals [n kʰ̟ t͡ɬ ...] become bilabial [nʷ k͡pʰ̟ t͡ɬʷ ...] before a bilabial stop or nasal. Non-velar obstruents or nasals become non-bilabial rounded.
Nasals [ŋ͡m̟ m nʷ ...] become non-nasal and assimilate in resonancy to a preceding non-nasal consonant. After a resonant, velar nasals are deleted; [m] become [p]. After [h], velar nasals are deleted; [m] become [p]. After an obstruent, nasals become voiceless.
Before a nasal, consonant laterals other than [l] become non-lateral stops; consonant laterals other than [l] become non-lateral stops; non-nasal affricate laterals become non-lateral non-affricate stops.
Before a nasal, consonant laterals other than [l] become non-lateral stops; consonant laterals other than [l] become non-lateral stops; non-nasal affricate laterals become non-lateral non-affricate stops.
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Re: The glebst of gleb, V2.0

Post by dhok »

One that might be worth running with, seed 2107016151.

stops: /b t d k ʔ/
nasals: /m n/
fricatives: /f v s z h/
resonants: /r j w/
vowels: /i e y ø a o u/

Syllable structure is (C)V(C). None of the listed allophony is particularly unusual.

Seed 1994230582 only has non-front vowels /a a: o o: u u:/.

A somewhat more interesting project would be to feed a bunch of real-world phonologies into a neural net and see what it comes up with, I feel.
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Re: The glebst of gleb, V2.0

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In the meantime, I've already managed to compile two full batches of gleblangs, the first of which will be published soon.
Oh, and I've improved my weirdness quality control, so rest assured that those two batches will contain a good deal of lingustic weirdness.
;)
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Re: The glebst of gleb, V2.0

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So, I'm back for batch #4.
Hoo boy, those two langs give me pharyngitis just by looking at them.
#1583977956, Cusowr [t͡ʃusowɾʷ]

Phonemes:
/p t t͡ʃ k kˤ/
/f s ʃ ħ h/
/m n ɲ/
/w ɾ ɔ̯ˤ/

/i e ɑ o u/

Transcription:
<p t c k kk>
<f s x hh h>
<m n ny>
<w r q>

<i e a o u>

Syllable Structure:
(C)V(H)(C)
H /w ɔ̯ˤ/
/t͡ʃ ʃ ɲ/ are illegal codas

Allophony:
-/ɲ/ becomes [ŋ] before any consonant
-Vowels and non-pharyngeal consonants become pharyngealized before a pharyngeal(ized) consonant, but:
  • All vowels other than [ɑˤ] become lax (/iˤ eˤ oˤ uˤ/ -> [ɪˤ ɛˤ ɔˤ ʊˤ])
  • /wˤ/ turns to /ɔˤ̯/
  • /hˤ/ becomes /ħ/
-Back vowels and semivowels centralize before /ɲ/
-Front vowels centralize before /w ɔˤ/
-Non-labial consonants labialize after /w ɔˤ/, but /ħʷ/ becomes [ɞ̯ˤ]
-Nasals assimilate in POA to a following obstruent/nasal
-Velar stops and nasals become uvular after a pharyngealized (semi)vowel

Sample Sentence:
Eihhnyatra un oto nuwueows qah, Kkakoksi et urisraqhhewca iekcu hhoo puo eqiw.
[eɪˤħɲɑtɾɑ un oto nuwueows ɔ̯ˤɑh|kˤɑkoksi et uɾisɾɑˤɔ̯ˤɞ̯ˤɜwt͡ʃʷɑ iekt͡ʃu ħoo puo ɜˤɔ̯ɨw]

And #1344681969, Kemirmmöka [kɛmɯmˤœkɑ]

Phonemes:
/t t͡s k kˤ/
/s ħ h/
/m mˤ n ŋ ŋ͡m ŋ͡mˤ/
/w l ʊ̯ˤ/

/i y ɛ œ ɨ˞ ʉ˞ ɜ˞ ɞ˞ ɑ ɔ o/ + Nasality for the Mid-low and Low vowels

Transcription:
<t ts k kk>
<s hh h>
<m mm n ng nm nmm>
<w l ww>

<i u e ö ir ur er ör a o ô> + <n>

Syllable Structure:
(C)V

Allophony:
-Front vowels centralize before a rhotic vowel
-Rhotic vowels de-rhoticize after a front vowel
-Velar stops and nasals become fronted before /i y/
-Central vowels become back before a pharyngealised consonant, but rhotic vowels de-rhoticize
-High (semi)vowels become mid-high before a pharyngealised consonant
-Non-rhotic central vowels become front before an alveolar consonant

Sample Sentence:
A wurnônmöatson mmônmutsamu kerlurtirsu e kkon tsi ur. Söngône uon matirkkeni öa mern ker hho?
[ɑ wʉ˞noŋ͡mœɑt͡sɔ̃ mˤoŋ͡myt͡sɑmy kɜ˞lʉ˞tɨ˞sy ɛ kˤɔ̃ t͡si ʉ˞|sœŋonɛ uɔ̃ mɑtɯkˤɛni œɑ mɜ˞̃ kɜ˞ ħɔ]
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Re: The glebst of gleb, V2.0

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ok then

/n͡m m n/
/t͡p d͡b p b t tʼ d t͡s t͡sʼ d͡z k kʼ g k͡p g͡b ʔ/
/s͡f z͡v s z h/
/ɾ j w/

/i iː u uː/
/e eː o oː/
/a aː ɑ ɑː/

(C1)(C2)V(C3)

C1: one of /k͡p k kʼ j w/
C2: a consonant
V: a vowel
C3: one of /n͡m m n t͡p k͡p p t tʼ k kʼ ʔ t͡s t͡sʼ s͡f s h ɾ j w/

Voiced vowels [i e a ...] persistently become creaky-voiced [ḭ ḛ a̰ ...] before a glottal stop.
Non-ejective voiceless stops [t͡p p k ...] persistently become aspirated [t͡pʰ pʰ kʰ ...] before a glottal fricative.
Non-ejective unaspirated non-nasal consonants [t͡p t s͡f ...] persistently assimilate in voice to a preceding non-nasal consonant other than resonant.
Low vowels [a aː ɑ̰ ...] become mid [ɜ ɜː ʌ̰ ...] before a semivowel.
Nasals [n͡m m n] become nasals and assimilate in place of articulation to a following obstruent or nasal.
Nasals [n͡m ŋ͡m n ...] persistently become nasals and assimilate in place of articulation to a following obstruent or nasal.
Semivowels [j̥ j w̥ w] become mid-low [ɛ̥̯ ɛ̯ ɔ̥̯ ɔ̯] after a lax vowel.
Voiceless stops [t͡pʰ p k ...] assimilate in glottalisation to a preceding non-nasal consonant other than resonant. After an ejective consonant, aspirated stops become unaspirated.
Non-ejective voiceless stops [t͡pʰ pʰ kʰ ...] assimilate in aspiration to a preceding consonant other than resonant.
Obstruents [t͡pʰ p kʼ ...] persistently assimilate in voice to a following obstruent. Before a voiced obstruent, ejective stops become non-ejective; aspirated stops become unaspirated.
Non-front vowels other than central low vowels [u oː ʌ̰ ...] become front [y øː ɛ̰ ...] after a front semivowel. Low vowels become central.
Unrounded non-labial dorsal consonants [ŋ kʼ j ...] become rounded [ŋʷ kʷʼ w ...] after a rounded vowel or semivowel. Semivowels become velar or uvular back.
Mid-low vowels and semivowels [ɛ̥̯ ɛ̰ ɜː ...] become tense [e̥̯ ḛ ɘː ...] before a high semivowel.
when the hell did that happen
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Re: The glebst of gleb, V2.0

Post by Zaarin »

Gleb really loves its labiovelars and bizarre improbable semivowels, doesn't it? :P
But if of ships I now should sing, what ship would come to me?
What ship would bear me ever back across so wide a Sea?
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Re: The glebst of gleb, V2.0

Post by ÜberBen »

You have seen but a tiny glimpse of the horrors that lie within this batch.
#1230406027, Qğbeo [ɢ͡bːɜɔ]

Phonemes:
/p b t t' d t͡s t͡s' d͡z k k' g k͡p g͡b q q' ɢ q͡p ɢ͡b/
/f v s s' x x' X X'/
/m n/
/w l ɾ j/

/i ɛ a ɔ u/

Transcription:
<p b t t' d c c' j k k' g kp gb q q' ğ qp ğb>
<f v s s' x x' h h'>
<m n>
<w l r y>

<i e a o u>

Syllable Structure:
(K)(C)V
K cannot be a voiced obstruent or a labial-dorsal
C cannot be /j/

Allophony:
-Alveolar stops + /s s'/ = fricatives
-Semivowels become mid-high after a non-high vowel
-Before [ɛ j e̯] all uvulars become [ɘ̯], except for bilabial-uvulars
-Voiceless obstruents assimilate in ejectivity to the preceding obstruent
-Back (semi)vowels centralize after [j e̯]
-/p b d k g q ɢ t͡s d͡z/ become fricatives between a vowel/resonant and a (semi)vowel, but /d/ becomes /ɾ/
-All non-nasal consonants assimilate in voice to a following obstruent, but:
  • Voiced ejective obstruents become non-ejective
  • Devoiced sonorants become fricatives
-Dorsal obstruents assimilate in uvularity to the following dorsal obstruent
-All consonants except uvulars palatalize before /j/
-Front (semi)vowels become centralize after [w o̯]
-All consonants other than semivowels labialize before [w o̯]
-Nasals assimilate in POA to the following obstruent/nasal
-Front vowels centralize after an uvular
-Vowels nasalize before a nasal

Sample Sentence:
Bokpo h'jeki kpoufeni pa ğbeaqt'e lo, ykae oxi ğeqe mure yeo xisoqpu gbe rğu ipa.
[bɔk͡pɔ ʁd͡zɛxi k͡pɔufɛ̃ni pa ɢ͡bɛaqtɛ lɔ|çxaɛ ɔxi ɘ̯ɜɘ̯ɜ muɾɛ jɛɔ xisɔq͡pʉ g͡bɛ ɾʁʉ iɸa]

And #1235426875, Cã̌da pī̌ [t͡sã̰θa pʰḭː]

Phonemes:
/p pʰ t tʰ t͡s t͡sʰ k kʰ ʔ/
/f s χ h/
/m n/
/l ɾ j/

/i a/ + Length, Creaky voice and Nasality

Transcription:
<b p d t z c g k q>
<f s x h>
<m n>
<l r y>

<i a> + Macron, Haček and Tilde
(that's what you get for giving me this kind of vowel system)

Syllable Strcuture:
(C)(R)V(C)
R /l ɾ j/

Allophony:
-Nasals assimilate in POA to the following obstruent/nasal
-Plain stops + /h/ = Aspirates (Reflected in orthography: *<bh> turns to <p>, etc.)
-/a/ becomes [æ] before /j/ (All variations included)
-Aspirated stops deaspirate before everything except for a non-nasal vowel or a resonant
-Plain stops + /ʔ/ = Ejectives
-Plain stops become aspirated after an aspirate
-Before /ɾ/, /l/ becomes /ɾ/, and vice versa (Reflected in orthography)
-/i/ becomes [ɪ] before /χ/
-Non-ejective stops become fricatives between a (semi)vowel and a vowel/resonant

Sample Sentence: (I had to use teletype because in regular text it looks like crap)
Xyā̃c zyā̃ fã̌ ĩ bã ā̃̌ xrĩ̌l qyã̌s pā̃ ã̌ ĩ? Ǐyĩ kī̃ qrāq gã yā̌ bla dǐ hã̌ rī!
[xjãːt͡s t͡sjãː fã̰ ĩ pã ã̰ː xɾḭ̃l ʔjã̰s pãː ã̰ ĩ|ḭjĩ kĩː ʔɾaːʔ kã ja̰ː pla tḭ hã̰ ɾiː]

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Xyā̃c zyā̃ fã̌ ĩ bã ā̃̌ xrĩ̌l qyã̌s pā̃ ã̌ ĩ? Ǐyĩ kī̃ qrāq gã yā̌ bla dǐ hã̌ rī!
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Re: The glebst of gleb, V2.0

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These two might sound familiar (or, at the very least, human).
#1273922119, Thń vã [tʰn̩ vã]

Phonemes:
/p pʰ b t tʰ d k kʰ g ʔ/
/f v s z/
/m n/
/w l/

/i a ã u/
/n̩ n̩ʲ/

Transcription:
<p ph b t th d k kh g '>
<f v s z>
<m n>
<w l>

<i a ã u>
<ń ñ>

Syllable Structure:
(C)V

Allophony:
-/i/ becomes [ɨ] before /w/
-Alveolar stops become affricates before /i/ (Reflected in orthography: *<ti thi di> become <tsi tshi dzi>)
-/ʔ/ is deleted between two vowels
-Vowels become creaky-voiced after /ʔ/
-/v/ becomes [ʋ] between two vowels
-/w/ turns to [o̯] after a non-high vowel

Sample Sentence:
Phñ va tu suisãzu lu khu wñ bñ, La thń si tshiva gńzñ mãtãu ñ nia da gi?
[pʰn̩ʲ va tu suisãzu lu kʰu wn̩ʲ bn̩ʲ|la tʰn̩ si t͡sʰiva gn̩zn̩ʲ mãtãu n̩ʲ nia da gi]

And #1322061650, Hahṭṣimhaṇh [hahʈ͡ʂʰim̥aɳ̊]

Phonemes:
/p pʰ b t tʰ d t͡s t͡ʃ t͡ʃʰ d͡ʒ ʈ ʈʰ ɖ ʈ͡ʂ k kʰ g/
/ɸ s ʃ ʂ x h/
/m m̥ n n̥ ɳ ɳ̊ ŋ/
/w r ɽ ʟ/

/i a u/

Transcription:
<p ph b t th d ts c ch j ṭ ṭh ḍ ċ k kh g>
<f s sh ṣ x h>
<m mh n nh ṇ ṇh ng>
<w r ṙ l>

<i a u>

Syllable Structure:
(C)V(h)(C)

Allophony:
-Stops assimilate in aspiration to the preceding obstruent, but voiced aspirates become voiceless and /h/ triggers aspiration
-Stops and nasals assimilate in POA to a following obstruent or nasal, but affricates become regular stops (Reflected in orthography)
-Coronal consonants become retroflex after a retroflex consonant
-/h/ is deleted between two vowels/resonants
-Dorsal consonants other than /w/ labialize before /u w/
-Nasals become stops before a fricative
-/i/ becomes [ɨ] before /w/ and retroflex consonants

Sample Sentence:
Thil aṇhaṇh u pibiwiṣug akhiṣi ṙu nhifahb anchaub ṇhaikkhup sha ahlċiṇhṭai.
[tʰil aɳ̊aɳ̊ u pibiwɨʂug akʰɨʂi ɽu n̥iɸahpʰ ant͡ʃʰaub ɳ̊aikːʷʰup ʃa alʈ͡ʂɨɳ̊ʈai]
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