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by anteallach
Thu Mar 30, 2023 3:05 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: English questions
Replies: 1383
Views: 446296

Re: English questions

Even worse, there's an australian politican called Palaszczuk who calls herself /pæləʃeɪ̯/. Wut? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annastacia_Palaszczuk This article says it's because her father was a teacher and the original pronunciation of his name was deemed to hard for the children in his school t...
by anteallach
Tue Mar 21, 2023 1:13 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: English questions
Replies: 1383
Views: 446296

Re: English questions

Completely different question: what is the usual English term for a sub-national boundary line between jurisdictions or administrative divisions, such as states, counties, provinces, or municipalities? Is that called a "border"? And if not, what is it called then? Both "boundary"...
by anteallach
Mon Mar 13, 2023 2:15 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: English questions
Replies: 1383
Views: 446296

Re: English questions

I just realized I pronounce /ɔɪ/ as [ɔʏ̯] in English - my rounding does not change throughout the whole diphthong. I for the longest time wondered how StG /ɔʏ/ differed from English /ɔɪ/ because I could not perceive a difference... Whereas I, though my brain interprets them as essentially the same ...
by anteallach
Mon Mar 13, 2023 11:49 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: English questions
Replies: 1383
Views: 446296

Re: English questions

I've noticed that in my English there's three different types of postalveolars, but I don't know how to describe their articulation or what symbols to use to represent them. The terminology used for sibilants is pretty complicated (what is "domed"? "palato-alveolar" and "al...
by anteallach
Sat Feb 18, 2023 2:06 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4685
Views: 2061169

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

Maybe it's not Travis, but I remember there's someone who enters every one of those "how do you pronounce..." threads with some nonsensical formula for a pharyngeal implosive or a sound that can only be made underwater. I just assume they're lying. If you're alluding to my rhotic, there's...
by anteallach
Tue Feb 14, 2023 2:56 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel
Replies: 909
Views: 1083347

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel

OK - I apologize for the misunderstandings. Indeed, the phonation types of the stops are currently one of the hottest topics in IE comparative linguistics; just about everybody admits that the standard model is so for mainly historical reasons and relies more on Sanskrit than it ought to, and that ...
by anteallach
Fri Feb 10, 2023 1:13 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4685
Views: 2061169

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

I remember having my mind blown years ago by a phonetician casually mentioning that medial [ɾ] can be deleted basically everywhere that it appears in NAE. My instinct was to say that that couldn't be true, because how would I never have noticed it myself? But I tested it by listening carefully to m...
by anteallach
Fri Feb 10, 2023 1:01 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Pronunciations you had to unlearn
Replies: 805
Views: 540659

Re: Pronunciations you had to unlearn

Raphael wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 10:38 am I just heard the word "niche" pronounced in an English-language video for the first time. What, the vowel is short when the word is used in English? I would never have guessed that.
There's a UK/US difference here. I have /niːʃ/.
by anteallach
Tue Jan 31, 2023 11:47 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: What do you call ...
Replies: 413
Views: 1018063

Re: What do you call ...

As others have said (d) feels off. So, for me, does (b), but that's just because "Northern Wales" on its own is a bit off; it's always "North Wales". On the other hand (c) is OK, at least if we're talking about a northern accent of Welsh as opposed to a North Wales accent of Engl...
by anteallach
Mon Jan 16, 2023 3:08 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 1333
Views: 822474

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

How common is phonemic /d͡z/ without phonemic /z/? Proto-Semitic is usually reconstructed like that these days, with a /ts dz tsʼ/ series (parallel to /k g kʼ/ and /θ ð θʼ/) and a single /s/ sibilant. The more traditional reconstruction had /s z sʼ/ and /ʃ/ instead. I'm not familiar with the litera...
by anteallach
Wed Jan 11, 2023 4:11 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 1782
Views: 4935450

Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread

What about bedroom ? It's common at least in BrE to have affrication there in spite of the obvious morpheme boundary; in his syllabification article Wells says "although bedroom tends to be pronounced as if morphologically solid". He gives /ˈbedr.ʊm/ (yes, with the syllable boundary after...
by anteallach
Wed Jan 11, 2023 3:51 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 1782
Views: 4935450

Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread

What about bedroom ? It's common at least in BrE to have affrication there in spite of the obvious morpheme boundary; in his syllabification article Wells says "although bedroom tends to be pronounced as if morphologically solid". He gives /ˈbedr.ʊm/ (yes, with the syllable boundary after ...
by anteallach
Sun Jan 08, 2023 8:57 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4685
Views: 2061169

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

Do we have a date for the fir-fur merger? I've been trying to find one. According to John C. Wells, in Accents of English : The merging of these various Middle English vowels seems to have started in northern and eastern dialects of English in the fifteenth century; by the sixteenth it had spread t...
by anteallach
Fri Dec 30, 2022 6:46 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: English questions
Replies: 1383
Views: 446296

Re: English questions

I feel "in half" is the normal way of saying it for me, but my brain interpreted "by half" as a variant of that and not of "by a half", which would be what I'd use if I were actually talking about dividing by the number 1/2.
by anteallach
Fri Dec 30, 2022 6:42 am
Forum: End Matter
Topic: Anglic sound changes
Replies: 41
Views: 16089

Re: Anglic sound changes

I would give both alternatives. Indeed, it's quite possible that both may have happened in different parts of the country.
by anteallach
Wed Dec 28, 2022 4:42 am
Forum: End Matter
Topic: Anglic sound changes
Replies: 41
Views: 16089

Re: Anglic sound changes

On the /h/-loss section, this is a very messy sound change with some unpredictable outcomes, but: - I think I would separate the simplification of /hl/, /hn/ and /hr/, mainly because the rest of what went on is so messy and it's a rather different environment. Also, there's no variation that I'm awa...
by anteallach
Wed Dec 28, 2022 4:19 am
Forum: End Matter
Topic: Anglic sound changes
Replies: 41
Views: 16089

Re: Anglic sound changes

Is there any reason Middle English /iː uː/ are listed as having become [ei ou]? I thought the conventional understanding was that the shift was [iː uː] > [əɪ əu] > [aɪ aʊ] (for me and some others > [ɑɪ æʊ]). The Wikipedia article on the Great Vowel Shift mentions both the [əi]/[əu] and [ei]/[ou] de...
by anteallach
Thu Dec 22, 2022 8:24 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: What do you call ...
Replies: 413
Views: 1018063

Re: What do you call ...

Do you have a special name for the day after Christmas? And does it vary depending on whether this is a legal/bank holiday or not? "Boxing Day", also aware of "St. Stephen's Day". In the UK, if the 26th is a Saturday or Sunday there is a replacement Bank Holiday on the 27th or 2...
by anteallach
Thu Dec 22, 2022 8:21 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 1782
Views: 4935450

Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread

Rounin Ryuuji wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 6:03 pm From the English Questions thread, "melodramatic". I think mine's something like [mɛ.lɵʊ.d(ʒ)ɹʷə'mæ.dɨk̚].
Same, other than predictable differences between our accents.
by anteallach
Wed Dec 14, 2022 12:49 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 1782
Views: 4935450

Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread

Does anyone think that velar plosives in English are undergoing a kind of lenition in similar environments to coronal ones? Sometimes I hear words like "bigger" or "significant," and it sounds like the velar plosive has been softened to ɰ, or at least voiced where it would other...