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- Thu Mar 30, 2023 3:05 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: English questions
- Replies: 1383
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Re: English questions
Even worse, there's an australian politican called Palaszczuk who calls herself /pæləʃeɪ̯/. Wut? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annastacia_Palaszczuk This article says it's because her father was a teacher and the original pronunciation of his name was deemed to hard for the children in his school t...
- Tue Mar 21, 2023 1:13 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: English questions
- Replies: 1383
- Views: 446296
Re: English questions
Completely different question: what is the usual English term for a sub-national boundary line between jurisdictions or administrative divisions, such as states, counties, provinces, or municipalities? Is that called a "border"? And if not, what is it called then? Both "boundary"...
- Mon Mar 13, 2023 2:15 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: English questions
- Replies: 1383
- Views: 446296
Re: English questions
I just realized I pronounce /ɔɪ/ as [ɔʏ̯] in English - my rounding does not change throughout the whole diphthong. I for the longest time wondered how StG /ɔʏ/ differed from English /ɔɪ/ because I could not perceive a difference... Whereas I, though my brain interprets them as essentially the same ...
- Mon Mar 13, 2023 11:49 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: English questions
- Replies: 1383
- Views: 446296
Re: English questions
I've noticed that in my English there's three different types of postalveolars, but I don't know how to describe their articulation or what symbols to use to represent them. The terminology used for sibilants is pretty complicated (what is "domed"? "palato-alveolar" and "al...
- Sat Feb 18, 2023 2:06 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
- Replies: 4685
- Views: 2061169
Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Maybe it's not Travis, but I remember there's someone who enters every one of those "how do you pronounce..." threads with some nonsensical formula for a pharyngeal implosive or a sound that can only be made underwater. I just assume they're lying. If you're alluding to my rhotic, there's...
- Tue Feb 14, 2023 2:56 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel
- Replies: 909
- Views: 1083347
Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel
OK - I apologize for the misunderstandings. Indeed, the phonation types of the stops are currently one of the hottest topics in IE comparative linguistics; just about everybody admits that the standard model is so for mainly historical reasons and relies more on Sanskrit than it ought to, and that ...
- Fri Feb 10, 2023 1:13 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
- Replies: 4685
- Views: 2061169
Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
I remember having my mind blown years ago by a phonetician casually mentioning that medial [ɾ] can be deleted basically everywhere that it appears in NAE. My instinct was to say that that couldn't be true, because how would I never have noticed it myself? But I tested it by listening carefully to m...
- Fri Feb 10, 2023 1:01 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Pronunciations you had to unlearn
- Replies: 805
- Views: 540659
- Tue Jan 31, 2023 11:47 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: What do you call ...
- Replies: 413
- Views: 1018063
Re: What do you call ...
As others have said (d) feels off. So, for me, does (b), but that's just because "Northern Wales" on its own is a bit off; it's always "North Wales". On the other hand (c) is OK, at least if we're talking about a northern accent of Welsh as opposed to a North Wales accent of Engl...
- Mon Jan 16, 2023 3:08 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
- Replies: 1333
- Views: 822474
Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread
How common is phonemic /d͡z/ without phonemic /z/? Proto-Semitic is usually reconstructed like that these days, with a /ts dz tsʼ/ series (parallel to /k g kʼ/ and /θ ð θʼ/) and a single /s/ sibilant. The more traditional reconstruction had /s z sʼ/ and /ʃ/ instead. I'm not familiar with the litera...
- Wed Jan 11, 2023 4:11 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
- Replies: 1782
- Views: 4935450
Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
What about bedroom ? It's common at least in BrE to have affrication there in spite of the obvious morpheme boundary; in his syllabification article Wells says "although bedroom tends to be pronounced as if morphologically solid". He gives /ˈbedr.ʊm/ (yes, with the syllable boundary after...
- Wed Jan 11, 2023 3:51 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
- Replies: 1782
- Views: 4935450
Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
What about bedroom ? It's common at least in BrE to have affrication there in spite of the obvious morpheme boundary; in his syllabification article Wells says "although bedroom tends to be pronounced as if morphologically solid". He gives /ˈbedr.ʊm/ (yes, with the syllable boundary after ...
- Sun Jan 08, 2023 8:57 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
- Replies: 4685
- Views: 2061169
Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Do we have a date for the fir-fur merger? I've been trying to find one. According to John C. Wells, in Accents of English : The merging of these various Middle English vowels seems to have started in northern and eastern dialects of English in the fifteenth century; by the sixteenth it had spread t...
- Fri Dec 30, 2022 6:46 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: English questions
- Replies: 1383
- Views: 446296
Re: English questions
I feel "in half" is the normal way of saying it for me, but my brain interpreted "by half" as a variant of that and not of "by a half", which would be what I'd use if I were actually talking about dividing by the number 1/2.
- Fri Dec 30, 2022 6:42 am
- Forum: End Matter
- Topic: Anglic sound changes
- Replies: 41
- Views: 16089
Re: Anglic sound changes
I would give both alternatives. Indeed, it's quite possible that both may have happened in different parts of the country.
- Wed Dec 28, 2022 4:42 am
- Forum: End Matter
- Topic: Anglic sound changes
- Replies: 41
- Views: 16089
Re: Anglic sound changes
On the /h/-loss section, this is a very messy sound change with some unpredictable outcomes, but: - I think I would separate the simplification of /hl/, /hn/ and /hr/, mainly because the rest of what went on is so messy and it's a rather different environment. Also, there's no variation that I'm awa...
- Wed Dec 28, 2022 4:19 am
- Forum: End Matter
- Topic: Anglic sound changes
- Replies: 41
- Views: 16089
Re: Anglic sound changes
Is there any reason Middle English /iː uː/ are listed as having become [ei ou]? I thought the conventional understanding was that the shift was [iː uː] > [əɪ əu] > [aɪ aʊ] (for me and some others > [ɑɪ æʊ]). The Wikipedia article on the Great Vowel Shift mentions both the [əi]/[əu] and [ei]/[ou] de...
- Thu Dec 22, 2022 8:24 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: What do you call ...
- Replies: 413
- Views: 1018063
Re: What do you call ...
Do you have a special name for the day after Christmas? And does it vary depending on whether this is a legal/bank holiday or not? "Boxing Day", also aware of "St. Stephen's Day". In the UK, if the 26th is a Saturday or Sunday there is a replacement Bank Holiday on the 27th or 2...
- Thu Dec 22, 2022 8:21 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
- Replies: 1782
- Views: 4935450
Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
Same, other than predictable differences between our accents.Rounin Ryuuji wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 6:03 pm From the English Questions thread, "melodramatic". I think mine's something like [mɛ.lɵʊ.d(ʒ)ɹʷə'mæ.dɨk̚].
- Wed Dec 14, 2022 12:49 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
- Replies: 1782
- Views: 4935450
Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
Does anyone think that velar plosives in English are undergoing a kind of lenition in similar environments to coronal ones? Sometimes I hear words like "bigger" or "significant," and it sounds like the velar plosive has been softened to ɰ, or at least voiced where it would other...