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Point taken. But remember, Lindsey is also interested in teaching EFL using SSBE as a model. For EFL learners, it can be confusing to see GOOSE transcribed as /uː/, which in IPA means a back monophthong, when in SSBE this vowel is neither back nor a monophthong. You can't ask beginners to keep two ...

I think people say modern IPA to mean "Lindsey's transcription of modern British English in IPA", and traditional IPA to mean "the traditional transcription of Received Pronunciation in IPA". Both use the standard IPA. Except the so-called ‘modern IPA’ which started this convers...

Does anyone else have [ɔʏ̯] for /ɔɪ/ in English, particularly if you are not a native German-speaker? No, it's [oə̯] ~ [o̝i̯] and if I heard an actual [ɔʏ̯] I'm not sure I wouldn't map it to GOAT I certainly map the German eu diphthong to English CHOICE. When I say them, however, I do maintain more...

My accent allows the TRAP vowel in word final position, but it's more or less restricted to obvious French loanwords pronounced as such: fracas, pain au chocolat (which also has a nasal vowel), etc.

Is there any dialect which merges the pronunciations of 'chancellor' and 'transfer'? Or is there always at least the opposition between /l/ and /f/? Which dialects actually merge the onsets of the first syllables? I'd have thought that most dialects with assibilation of /tr/ either retain the rhoti...

Travis B. wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 1:30 am I am used to [sətˈtʃɜsʲtʲ] for suggest, and find the version with [g]~[k] to be a spelling pronunciation.

Geminate affricate?

My impression is that in England people who use [paθ] usually use [paθs] for the plural but that people who use [pɑːθ] may use either [pɑːθs] or [pɑːðz]. I use [paθ] and [paðz] feels really weird.

The [t] in mine is unreleased too.

It's a BATH word, so it's not surprising that Germans use a long vowel.

Raphael wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 3:07 pmBasketball.

[ˈbaskɪtbɔːɫ]

I'd be curious to know which aspect of it you were asking about, as for me, and I think most others, it's simply basket+ball, with the stress on the former.

I'm not sure I hear clique much, but [klik] would surprise me. I do hear USians say "click" a lot, but I always thought it was [klik] at least in UK English (altho it's not a particularly common word over here). I use it from time to time, and it certainly has FLEECE. I also have FLEECE i...

Does anyone else have this split (ignore the nasalization and length)?: pom : [pʰã(ː)m] palm : [pʰɑ̃(ː)m] pall : [pʰɒ(ː)o̯] comm : [kʰã(ː)m] calm : [kʰɑ̃(ː)m] call : [kʰɒ(ː)o̯] Received Pronunciation has a 3-way vowel split of CVC words here (at least, using Tom as the first member), and it survive...

Am i right in assuming the pronounciation *ʃri: in sri lanka is influenced by *t and *d being palatal affricates before *r. I should note that initial /sr/ is not found in native English words but /ʃr/ is. ... and that goes back a lot further than the affrication of /t/ and /d/ before /r/. An examp...

I think that for me real is [ɹɪəɫ] and deal is [diəɫ]; both are one syllable but they do not rhyme. Compare the occurrence of [ɪə]~[ɪː] in words like vehicle and theatre as a result of compression of an /iːə/ sequence. Most of the other words listed here I also perceive as monosyllabic but having a ...

The plosive systems of standard Swedish and Norwegian at least give some evidence for potential for retroflexes without palatals, though of course the retroflexes are often analysed as clusters with /r/. Actually... Standard Swedish and Urban East Norwegian do have palatals. In the plosive system?

The plosive systems of standard Swedish and Norwegian at least give some evidence for potential for retroflexes without palatals, though of course the retroflexes are often analysed as clusters with /r/.

Raphael wrote: ↑Wed Apr 26, 2023 5:47 am Do people in Britain still use that homophobic slur as a slang term for "cigarette", or has that died out by now?

Yes. In my experience it is the commonest meaning of the word.

Re bedroom, I think I have /d/ as [ɖ] because of the following [ɻ]. But I'm not a native speaker, so that doesn't count :D. A lot of English speakers do have retroflex assimilation like that, but it usually becomes an affricate rather than remaining a true stop. eg. My AuE idiolect: train [tʂɻ̥ɛɪ̯n...

Re bedroom, I think I have /d/ as [ɖ] because of the following [ɻ]. But I'm not a native speaker, so that doesn't count :D. A lot of English speakers do have retroflex assimilation like that, but it usually becomes an affricate rather than remaining a true stop. eg. My AuE idiolect: train [tʂɻ̥ɛɪ̯n...

Every time I say "countable nouns" [ˈkʰæɔ̯nəbʊ ˈnæɔ̯nz], some of my colleagues hear it as "cannibal nouns" [ˈkʰænəbʊ ˈnæɔ̯nz]. Once I was talking to a linguistics grad student (from a few hours north of me - had the /æ/-/eə/ contrast) about the syllabification of words in <ow(e)...

The first rhotic described sounds like an alveolar (or postalveolar, given the comparison to [ʃ] and [ʒ]) non-sibilant fricative. Such a sound is mentioned by Ladefoged and Maddieson as occuring in some South African English varieties, and I think it's also sometimes found as the release phase of th...