I didn't know you were non-rhotic - and this isn't one of those cases where one rhotic is dropped because there's another rhotic in the same word.
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- Sat Oct 13, 2018 4:19 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
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- Fri Oct 12, 2018 12:10 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
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Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
[ˈɘ̃ʁ̩̃ˌnɜʔ], or when speaking somewhat carefullly, [ˈɘ̃ɾ̃ʁ̩̃ˌnɜʔ]
- Tue Oct 09, 2018 10:00 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
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Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
I've never heard of that usage either. If I was talking about people from Phoenix, I would say "people from Phoenix" "Phoenixers" is what occurs to me. (Other cities I would use -er with include New York, Newark, Pittsburgh, Oakland, and Cleveland. Overall -an is common enough I...
- Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:28 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
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Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
It wouldn't have occured to me to pronounce either 'Phoenix' or 'Phoenician' with /o/, as the spelling so clearly indicates /i/. Do Americans really say /fonIks/ (for the bird or the city (or the person)), or do you just have the /o/ in the adjective form? Personally, I have /fi:'ni:Sn/, phonemical...
- Sun Oct 07, 2018 11:00 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
- Replies: 1782
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Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
Considering that /ə/ and /oʊ/ commonly alternate, where the former is an unstressed counterpart to the latter, it would not surprise me if people pronounced Phoenician as both /fəˈniːʃən/ and /foʊˈniːʃən/; indeed, I myself use both pronunciations, depending on the exact degree to which I stress the ...
- Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:27 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Why do you avoid passive voice?
- Replies: 43
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Re: Why do you avoid passive voice?
I nominate "synergy" for the very worst word in the English language.
- Sat Oct 06, 2018 2:52 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
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Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
I pronounce initial /ð/ as either a dentialveolar [t̪] (without aspiration), an interdental [ð] (particularly after vowels, as in of the , which is always pronounced with an interdental [ð]), or a dentialveolar [n̪] (after nasals); otherwise /ð/ is an interdental [ð] or, if under conditions where ob...
- Tue Oct 02, 2018 5:58 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Towards a common SCA grammar
- Replies: 14
- Views: 5600
Re: Towards a common SCA grammar
I prefer not to use SCAs but rather to simply apply sound changes from memory. In the case of some of my languages, such as the Tshyak languages, the phonologies are manageable for me without needing an SCA. In the Laqar languages, on the other hand, there is quite elaborate sound change, but using ...
- Tue Oct 02, 2018 1:33 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: the process of making specific words / phrases from general ones
- Replies: 22
- Views: 19712
Re: the process of making specific words / phrases from general ones
I've never heard of "druck store"; I pronounce drug store with [k], but druck store to me indicates /k/, i.e. a short vowel with preglottalization, whereas drug store for me has a long vowel with no preglottalization, i.e. it has /g/.
- Tue Oct 02, 2018 1:20 pm
- Forum: Ephemera
- Topic: Happy things thread!
- Replies: 1210
- Views: 716251
Re: Happy things thread!
I am really happy with how Attoforth is coming along. I now have a working File-Access API (well, working as far as the parts I have tested) and Wordlist API, and I have some basic concurrency primitives, namely locks and condition variables, working. It still has a ways to go, but it is nice to hav...
- Tue Oct 02, 2018 12:07 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: the process of making specific words / phrases from general ones
- Replies: 22
- Views: 19712
Re: the process of making specific words / phrases from general ones
Another good example is the pronunciation of high school in NAE dialects with Canadian Raising of /aɪ/ where the vowel of high is raised (even though typically Canadian Raising does not operate across word boundaries).
- Tue Oct 02, 2018 12:03 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: the process of making specific words / phrases from general ones
- Replies: 22
- Views: 19712
Re: the process of making specific words / phrases from general ones
As for sandhi effects in compounds, consider the common AmE pronunciation of "newspaper" with, um, voicing assimilation. For me this is a case of frozen voicing assimilation. Synchronically my normal realization of /z/ that is not syllable-initial (and not preceded in the same word by an ...
- Tue Oct 02, 2018 11:55 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
- Replies: 1782
- Views: 4935653
Re: the process of making specific words / phrases from general ones
Laptop /ˈlæpˌtɑp/ for me is clearly [ˈʟ̞ɛʔp̚ˌtʰaʔp]~[ˈɰɛʔp̚ˌtʰaʔp] and not [ˈʟ̞ɛːp̚ˌtʰaʔp]~[ˈɰɛːp̚ˌtʰaʔp], which is unambiguously [ˈlæbˌtɑp]; vowel length is very salient for me, and indeed, if people pronounce words with the wrong vowel length I am apt to hear the consonants wrong.
- Mon Oct 01, 2018 9:43 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
- Replies: 4687
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Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
I have fifth /fɪθ/ [fɘθ], sixth /sɪksθ/ [sɘʔksː] (or in quicker speech, just [sɘʔks]*, or in careful speech, [sɘʔksθ]), eighth /eɪθ/ [eθ], and twelfth /twɛlθ/ [tʲʰwɜɤ̯θ]. I was under the impression, though, that my pronunciations were essentially standard phonemically. * Interestingly enough, this c...
- Mon Oct 01, 2018 9:29 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
- Replies: 1782
- Views: 4935653
Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
I pronounce bonsai as [pãːnˈdza(ː)e̯], i.e. /bɑnˈzaɪ/.
- Thu Sep 27, 2018 6:22 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: How do you pronounce "Skrull"?
- Replies: 16
- Views: 11496
Re: How do you pronounce "Skrull"?
I pronounce Skrull as [skʁʌ(ː)ɤ̯] and Skrulls as [skʁʌːɤ̯s] ([skʁʌːɤ̯z] before a vowel or semivowel).
I pronounce squirrel as [skwʁ̩ʷ(ː)ɯ̯] and squirrels as [skwʁ̩ʷːɯ̯s] ([skwʁ̩ʷːɯ̯z] before a vowel or semivowel).
I pronounce squirrel as [skwʁ̩ʷ(ː)ɯ̯] and squirrels as [skwʁ̩ʷːɯ̯s] ([skwʁ̩ʷːɯ̯z] before a vowel or semivowel).
- Sat Sep 22, 2018 3:37 pm
- Forum: Ephemera
- Topic: Happy things thread!
- Replies: 1210
- Views: 716251
Re: Happy things thread!
I got my Forth implementation, Attoforth (the name is kind of a misnomer, since it has things that a "small" Forth probably would not have, like preemptive multitasking - I mostly chose the name because the name was not taken, out of the zillions of Forth implementations out there), workin...
- Mon Sep 10, 2018 3:13 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Eleven lines of Beowulf (Old Wenthish)
- Replies: 5
- Views: 2786
Re: Eleven lines of Beowulf (Old Wenthish)
I should resurrect my Írsc, which has a similar concept, except that it is a descendant of Old Norse rather than being influenced by Ingvaeonic. I shelved that one due to limited resources about Old Norse (e.g. the only real Old Icelandic dictionary I found was one from Old Icelandic to English, whe...
- Wed Sep 05, 2018 7:10 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Language Practice (Help your fluency)
- Replies: 701
- Views: 1063664
Re: Language Practice (Help your fluency)
Ich sollte auch mein Deutsch mehr üben.
I should also practice my German more.
I should also practice my German more.
- Wed Sep 05, 2018 2:13 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Choice of contractions in English
- Replies: 17
- Views: 11581
Re: Choice of contractions in English
Also related, but with contraction of "will" it seems I contract it more contexts than many people, because I keep getting red underlines when I write things like "I wonder if anyone'll respond" or "it seems no-one'll do it" or even "this man'll do it", which...