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by Richard W
Tue Dec 05, 2023 1:09 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 1782
Views: 4935157

Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread

Wtf would be the pathway to merging /l/ and /f/? Can't see that happening in any variety of English unless we get into very hypothetical future developments and even then, it would require multiple stages. (E.g. [l] > [ɬ] > [ɬʷ] > [ʍ] > [ɸ] > [f]) And for those two words to merge, there's also the ...
by Richard W
Mon Dec 04, 2023 7:10 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Acronyms in non-suffixing languages
Replies: 34
Views: 5689

Re: Acronyms in non-suffixing languages

The general structure of the phonetic representation of a syllable in cuneiform was a character sequence CVC or (CV)-(V)-(VC), where having VC only implied the presence of a glottal stop or a morpheme boundary. Moreover, the 3 V's represent the 'same' vowel, counting U, Ú and Ù as being the same vo...
by Richard W
Sun Dec 03, 2023 9:52 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Acronyms in non-suffixing languages
Replies: 34
Views: 5689

Re: Acronyms in non-suffixing languages

I don’t understand this, though. In what way is Meroitic similar to Persian cuneiform? And what do you mean by ‘the cuneiform CV-V-VC structure’? If we ignore words with Old Persian short diphthongs or Meroitic '/e/', whatever it was, the process to convert the language expressed alphabetically to ...
by Richard W
Sat Dec 02, 2023 9:21 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Acronyms in non-suffixing languages
Replies: 34
Views: 5689

Re: Acronyms in non-suffixing languages

Thank you for correcting me. It was merely my own idea. But apparently, the Ethipians (despite speaking a Semitic language) and the Indians (who didn't speak a Semitic language) found the abjad to be deficient and wanted to indicate the vowels in writing, so they invented (independently from each o...
by Richard W
Sat Dec 02, 2023 8:44 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Acronyms in non-suffixing languages
Replies: 34
Views: 5689

Re: Acronyms in non-suffixing languages

The key step to get from an abjad to an abugida is to associate consonantal letters with an inherent vowel, which indeed seems to be what happened in Ethiopic and Brahmi. More precisely, they marked exceptional vowels. Brahmi and Kharoshthi at least were developed for languages in which /a/ is exce...
by Richard W
Sat Dec 02, 2023 8:14 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4677
Views: 2058441

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

I valued speed over accuracy here, so you can have a look at the measurements of Thai tones on page 130 here: https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/document?repid=rep1&type=pdf&doi=8b4f73b6580f9a6dcf63de45c5674bff026500b1 . Ah, that paper that explains why some attested Thai words don't exist! (Wor...
by Richard W
Fri Dec 01, 2023 5:45 pm
Forum: Ephemera
Topic: Flaws with the Metric System
Replies: 84
Views: 14374

Re: Flaws with the Metric System

sasasha wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2023 5:39 pm In fact, in British kidsplay, a gallon is a very large amount of usually a desirable liquid. So I was very surprised to learn it's not, in fact, a huge vat of something.
But the expression 'one over the eight' gives a fair expression of what a very large amount is.
by Richard W
Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:14 pm
Forum: Ephemera
Topic: Flaws with the Metric System
Replies: 84
Views: 14374

Re: Flaws with the Metric System

jcb wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 1:17 am (7) Why is "tonne" (aka "metric ton") used instead of "megagram" ?
Possibly to avoid the confusion between mg and Mg.
by Richard W
Sat Nov 25, 2023 4:46 pm
Forum: Ephemera
Topic: The Contradictory Feelings Thread
Replies: 666
Views: 753499

Re: The Contradictory Feelings Thread

zompist wrote: Sat Nov 25, 2023 4:07 pm But love should be there too, or else why bother?
It's claimed that most people recover from love, though it takes a few years.
by Richard W
Fri Nov 24, 2023 2:07 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4677
Views: 2058441

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

"I fought with the class bully" vs "I picked a fight with the class bully" The latter narrows the meaning of the former by nominalising it. What is this phenomena called This is generally called a ‘light verb’ construction. (According to Wikipedia, sometimes in English they’re a...
by Richard W
Thu Nov 23, 2023 7:56 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conlang Random Thread
Replies: 2956
Views: 2847435

Re: Conlang Random Thread

I don’t really understand what you mean here. Thinking about the one Afroasiatic language I know, Biblical Hebrew had pronominal suffixes for possession, which in Modern Hebrew have become possessive adjectives (more or less). Could you give an example of what you mean by this? I was referring to t...
by Richard W
Thu Nov 23, 2023 7:48 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conlang Random Thread
Replies: 2956
Views: 2847435

Re: Conlang Random Thread

I'm getting the strong impression that Welsh doesn't have an equivalent of the English possessive pronoun, but rather a translator must recast the sentence.
by Richard W
Thu Nov 23, 2023 7:21 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conlang Random Thread
Replies: 2956
Views: 2847435

Re: Conlang Random Thread

But does any non-IE language even make this distinction? Or — for that matter — is it present outside of Germanic? Well, there are languages where don't really have possessive adjectives, but possession is more like inflection, such as Uralic, Afroasiatic languages and Persian. Most of these theref...
by Richard W
Thu Nov 23, 2023 9:39 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conlang Random Thread
Replies: 2956
Views: 2847435

Re: Conlang Random Thread

But does any non-IE language even make this distinction? Or — for that matter — is it present outside of Germanic? Well, there are languages where don't really have possessive adjectives, but possession is more like inflection, such as Uralic, Afroasiatic languages and Persian. Most of these theref...
by Richard W
Thu Nov 23, 2023 5:57 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conlang Random Thread
Replies: 2956
Views: 2847435

Re: Conlang Random Thread

...then I realized I wasn't sure if you meant that a possessive could be part of the adjective, leaving the pronoun behind; I still think its very possible. ie, I'm pretty sure that Awfully Amateur was referring to the notion in traditional English grammar of possessive adjectives ( my , his , her ...
by Richard W
Thu Nov 23, 2023 5:34 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conlang Random Thread
Replies: 2956
Views: 2847435

Re: Conlang Random Thread

Oh, and by the way, I've going through the pronouns on my second conlang and, it occurred to me: Can you make possessive pronouns double as possessive adjectives or not? The simple answer is 'yes' (e.g. Latin), but there may be implicational universals around. For example, if there is no difference...
by Richard W
Wed Nov 22, 2023 4:57 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conlang Random Thread
Replies: 2956
Views: 2847435

Re: Conlang Random Thread

Be aware though that if a language has tense particles, it likely will have aspect and/or mood particles as well, or merge these concepts into fused particles. It is highly unlikely that a language will just have particles for tense, but is highly inflexional otherwise. Not impossible of course, bu...
by Richard W
Sun Nov 19, 2023 1:07 pm
Forum: Ephemera
Topic: Random Thread
Replies: 3720
Views: 449991

Re: Random Thread

I think I have seen bomb used with the meaning of 'flop'. You have. The phrase “box office bomb” refers to a massively unsuccessful picture, and “to bomb” can mean “to fail (at) something totally”, as in “I bombed the exam”. But going like a bomb is the exact opposite of bombing . Bad, eh? I suppos...
by Richard W
Mon Nov 13, 2023 2:05 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Sego
Replies: 55
Views: 9892

Re: Sego

I think I’m not making my confusion entirely clear. The two mappings you listed are as follows: head_x body_y → head_x body_y_blanked (1 rule) head_x body_y_blanked → body_y head_dia_x body_y_blanked (14 rules) But as far as I can see, this could just as easily be done with only one mapping, namely...
by Richard W
Mon Nov 13, 2023 1:15 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Sego
Replies: 55
Views: 9892

Re: Sego

Yes, this seems somewhat ridiculously baroque to me. More to the point, it’s a reasonably strong linguistic universal that stress position cannot depend on the value of the syllable onset. Yea! Another oddity for English (Middle Class Southern English?), where the vowel after a cluster -Ch- has to ...