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by zompist
Sun Mar 24, 2024 2:57 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4676
Views: 2058399

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

I grasp the concept of [n̩] - but how do you articulate [jn̩] without it being realised as say [j ə n̩] or [j ɪ n̩]? If there's no adjacent vowel, is [j] really a [j] anymore? At the phonetic level, [j] and [ĭ] are really two different notations for the same things. It’s trivial to articulate [jn] ...
by zompist
Sun Mar 24, 2024 1:29 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4676
Views: 2058399

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

fusijui wrote: Sun Mar 24, 2024 12:00 am Seems like you're going to have a more satisfying argument with the fusijui in your head, so I'll leave you to it.
You do realize you were being a jerk?
by zompist
Sat Mar 23, 2024 11:24 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4676
Views: 2058399

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

Regarding the second syllable of "onion", what seems relevant to me is that whether pronounced slowly or quickly, in isolation or in context, there's a change in articulation between the "schwa-ish" part and "n-ish" part. At some point there's closure of the oral cavit...
by zompist
Sat Mar 23, 2024 5:23 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4676
Views: 2058399

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

Now I wanna hear a recording of 'onion' pronounced with a syllabic [n̩]. ([ˈʌn.jn̩]?.. [ˈʌn.n̩]??) [ˈʌn.jn̩]. "Nation" and "onion" end in the same sound. ([n̩], I mean— the [j] is just in onion.) I got what the transcription would be, but what does it sound like? How acousticall...
by zompist
Fri Mar 22, 2024 8:00 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4676
Views: 2058399

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

[ˈʌn.jn̩]. "Nation" and "onion" end in the same sound. ([n̩], I mean— the [j] is just in onion.) [jn̩] is a weird syllable, sonority-wise. Why is it any odder than "cure"? Or for that matter "strike"? Perhaps this is a stupid question, but how do you know it’...
by zompist
Fri Mar 22, 2024 3:18 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4676
Views: 2058399

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

Zju wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 8:38 am Now I wanna hear a recording of 'onion' pronounced with a syllabic [n̩]. ([ˈʌn.jn̩]?.. [ˈʌn.n̩]??)
[ˈʌn.jn̩]. "Nation" and "onion" end in the same sound. ([n̩], I mean— the [j] is just in onion.)
by zompist
Fri Mar 22, 2024 1:21 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4676
Views: 2058399

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

One of my pet peeves is when people treat the word "schwa" as an alternate name for the STRUT vowel https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/schwa.png I'm not sure I can out-pedant you, but I can sure try. I count five separate vowels in xkcd's text: ə in was, a, of, obs- ʌ in up, Doug, stuck, etc. s...
by zompist
Thu Mar 21, 2024 8:19 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4676
Views: 2058399

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

Incidentally, I feel this example also highlights the weakness of Construction Grammar, which is that it ignores compositionality. ‘A doesn’t X like B’ may has a strong implication, but its basic meaning is predictable purely from its structure as a clause with an adverbial. That’s something which,...
by zompist
Thu Mar 21, 2024 4:09 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4676
Views: 2058399

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

So here's an interesting pair of sentences: "You don't kiss like him." "He doesn't kiss like you." Formally, these should be equivalent: You and him both kiss differently. But without further context, the former strongly implies "He kisses better than you" and the latt...
by zompist
Wed Mar 20, 2024 4:51 pm
Forum: Ephemera
Topic: AIs gunning for our precious freelancers
Replies: 710
Views: 136676

Re: AIs gunning for our precious freelancers

Before you, there were programmers who wrote optimal assembly code for every application and regarded higher level programming as an abdication of the duties of wizards. But quantity beats quality for many applications. Otherwise, JavaScript would never have taken off. This is getting off-topic, bu...
by zompist
Wed Mar 20, 2024 3:14 pm
Forum: Almea
Topic: "Experiencer"
Replies: 40
Views: 4281

Re: "Experiencer"

I've looked at a lot of grammars searching for numbers. The absolute worst (I forget what language, it was from the Americas) was an SIL grammar which used tagmemics, the theory invented by SIL's president, Kenneth Pike. It was absolutely baffling-- the terminology was unrecognizable and simply find...
by zompist
Wed Mar 20, 2024 3:06 pm
Forum: Ephemera
Topic: AIs gunning for our precious freelancers
Replies: 710
Views: 136676

Re: AIs gunning for our precious freelancers

When you side with $100,000 a year programmers like yourself (and their millionaire techbro owners) If we're playing the Oppression Olympics, I was never paid 100k as a software engineer. I had that job in India, the place management sends jobs to lower cost. (Indians were ChatGPT before ChatGPT.) ...
by zompist
Wed Mar 20, 2024 3:50 am
Forum: Ephemera
Topic: AIs gunning for our precious freelancers
Replies: 710
Views: 136676

Re: AIs gunning for our precious freelancers

People who need small-scale art and can't draw— portraits of their D&D characters, visualizations of their fantasy worlds, very specific fetish porn, whatever— should pay a damn human artist instead of techbros. There are plenty of artists who would will do something for $50 or $300. Using free...
by zompist
Tue Mar 19, 2024 4:39 pm
Forum: Ephemera
Topic: AIs gunning for our precious freelancers
Replies: 710
Views: 136676

Re: AIs gunning for our precious freelancers

-- and not because they're in need of labor saving devices. Notice how this argument implicitly defines "artist" as someone who has already made it big in the art world rather than novices who are still struggling to find their voice. Among the latter, you will find lots of people who are...
by zompist
Mon Mar 18, 2024 5:40 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4676
Views: 2058399

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

I'm looking over the long mid mergers in English (pane-pain/ toe-tow), and wondering if any language has a stable contrast between /e:/ and /ej/ and/or /o:/ and /ow/. Does [ɛ] count? French -eille- is pronounced [ɛj], and produces minimal pairs like réveil [rɛvɛj] and rêvait [rɛvɛ]. (At least, that...
by zompist
Sun Mar 17, 2024 3:37 pm
Forum: Almea
Topic: "Experiencer"
Replies: 40
Views: 4281

Re: "Experiencer"

1. Almea began as a Dungeons & Dragons campaign setting when zompist was in high school, which explains some things. For instance, the player character races of 1970s D&D are still recognizable though they are altered in many points: Elcari are essentially Dwarves, Flaids are essentially Ha...
by zompist
Thu Mar 14, 2024 7:58 pm
Forum: Almea
Topic: Cultural minorities in Eretald
Replies: 4
Views: 355

Re: Cultural minorities in Eretald

Interesting, in terms of the nomadic people I imagine you mean mostly after 3480 or were Caizurans a minority in their kingdom from its inception? Also I did not know there are still Arašei around that didn't subscribe to Eled'át, very cool. Ah no, I meant way before 3480. :) The Caizurans and Curi...
by zompist
Thu Mar 14, 2024 4:21 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: A Minecraft Protolang
Replies: 5
Views: 396

Re: A Minecraft Protolang

Do you actually know the Hermits or you're just wishing you did? :) (I wish I did myself!) The Minecraft-centered vocabulary sounds like fun, and I think you should lean into that more. E.g. spiders and sheep produce the same sort of thing (string > wool). My big suggestion would be to think more ab...
by zompist
Thu Mar 14, 2024 3:13 pm
Forum: Almea
Topic: Cultural minorities in Eretald
Replies: 4
Views: 355

Re: Cultural minorities in Eretald

Yes, but I don't have a list right now. :) I've already mentioned groups of Lácaturans and Arašei, as well as migrating Ismaîn and Kebreni in the cities. The most likely source are nomadic remnants— Caizuran, Eluye-Makši, or Somoyi— left over from their various sweeps of the Plain. It's also likely ...
by zompist
Tue Mar 12, 2024 5:06 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4676
Views: 2058399

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

One question I have is how did Czech survive intact being essentially entirely displaced by German for the period of the from essentially the start of the Thirty Years' War to the start of the Czech National Revival, whereas Irish and Scottish Gaelic are severely marginalized today despite the best...