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by Richard W
Sat Mar 23, 2024 3:02 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Survival of Greco-Roman paganism
Replies: 26
Views: 4578

Re: Survival of Greco-Roman paganism

Some recent talk about religion got me thinking. Would a scenario where 'paganism' in whatever form would survive to the present day make any sense? Or was it inevitable that Christianity replaced everything in Europe? I thought it had survived - see harsh words on Mariolatry. Remnants of Lithuania...
by Richard W
Sat Mar 23, 2024 2:06 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4725
Views: 2067105

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

I'm not sure I can out-pedant you, but I can sure try. I count five separate vowels in xkcd's text: ə in was, a, of, obs- ʌ in up, Doug, stuck, etc. syllabic n in obstruct ion , onions syllabic l in tunnel ʊ in ugh A fun activity! I agree with your phonetic analysis (except I have STRUT for "u...
by Richard W
Thu Mar 21, 2024 4:03 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: English questions
Replies: 1406
Views: 451412

Re: English questions

This is more an English-learners-of-German question. It seems to me that English-speakers in general have an easier time learning the ach-Laut that the ich-Laut, despite the fact that the ach-Laut is only found in certain English varieties such as Scottish English, and the ich-Laut being found nati...
by Richard W
Sat Mar 16, 2024 5:43 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Syllabic Rhotics
Replies: 6
Views: 570

Syllabic Rhotics

In languages with a single articulation for non-syllabic rhotics, what are the likely possibilities for a syllabic rhotic with a length contrast? I've hit the question in respect of Sanskrit, for which the options I find most attractive are [ɹ̩] (alveolar approximant) and [ɻ̩] (retroflex approximant...
by Richard W
Fri Mar 15, 2024 3:48 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 1782
Views: 4937312

Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread

You're talking about the trisyllabic pronunciation, not the bisyllabic pronunciation. Yes, because I doubt there even is a bisyllabic pronunciation in BrE. While listening out for a recording of the disyllabic pronunciation, in English indistinguishable from mine, I was struck by a similar pronunci...
by Richard W
Wed Mar 13, 2024 12:21 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 1782
Views: 4937312

Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread

Travis B. wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 10:13 am ... while in rule /rul/ [ˈʁʷˤu(ː)ʊ̯] I do not even have a /j/ in the first place (like most present-day North Americans).
According to Wiktionary, Welsh English preserves /ɹɪu̯l/, but I think the /j/ has disappeared from rule for most British English speakers.
by Richard W
Wed Mar 13, 2024 12:14 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 1782
Views: 4937312

Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread

I'm not a native speaker, but I'm pretty sure there's no "syllable final rhotic" in "various"? Mmm, checked Wiktionary, and it seems that the GenAm pronunciation has, weird. Anyway, like Wiktionary says, I'm 99% sure that the "r" in "various" is the onset of ...
by Richard W
Wed Mar 13, 2024 6:10 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 1782
Views: 4937312

Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread

How do you pronounce "various" and "rule"? I'm particularly curious as to whether non-rhotic speakers have a syllable final rhotic in the bisyllabic pronunciation or the first, or an onset /ɹj/. I'm not sure how one objectively distinguishes the two possibilities.
by Richard W
Sun Mar 10, 2024 5:18 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4725
Views: 2067105

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

A fronting of [ʃ] to [f]. I never would’ve figured on that as a direct step. ʃ to x and thence to f, sure, but this may be useful to some. The direct step is also hinted at in Welsh ffroen 'nostril' from Celtic *srognā and there is a voiced parallel in Latin sobrinu 'related via a sister' from *swe...
by Richard W
Mon Feb 26, 2024 3:52 pm
Forum: Ephemera
Topic: Venting thread
Replies: 1943
Views: 15030105

Re: Venting thread

Raphael wrote: Mon Feb 26, 2024 12:36 pm So, does this mean that people who grew up in the 1990s, such as myself, are of nursing home age now? As they say, I can't even.
No. Significant memories can also be laid down in one's 30's and 40's.
by Richard W
Sat Feb 24, 2024 7:41 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4725
Views: 2067105

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

there are usually no clear boundaries in time between a language and its descendants. That's why counting language deaths is a clever conceptually simpler idea that I believe yields almost the same answer. The only problem I see is whether related languages can merge, which it seems can happen with...
by Richard W
Fri Feb 23, 2024 4:14 pm
Forum: Ephemera
Topic: The Computer And General Tech Thread - Software, Hardware, Questions, etc.
Replies: 557
Views: 271998

Re: The Computer And General Tech Thread - Software, Hardware, Questions, etc.

Fun with spellcheckers: My Mom just reported to me that her Microsoft Word spellcheck (or, more accurately, grammar check) apparently can't decide whether to write a specific letter sequence as one word or two words. When she writes it as one word, the software "suggests" that she should ...
by Richard W
Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:46 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4725
Views: 2067105

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

Around 3000 BCE IE had not yet taken over Spain, Italy, Greece, Anatolia, Iran, or India. And it still hasn't totally taken over Spain, Anatolia, Iran or India - in fact it seems to have lost ground in the middle two. And I really wonder how we actually know "there were more families here"...
by Richard W
Mon Feb 05, 2024 7:30 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conlang Random Thread
Replies: 3024
Views: 2854360

Re: Conlang Random Thread

I've read a reddit guide on tonogenesis but it doesn't tell you how to manifest tones from closed syllables or syllables with dipthongs or syllables with onset clusters or all three. I was trying to write up something, but in the process I discovered this paper which looks quite comprehensive: http...
by Richard W
Mon Feb 05, 2024 7:14 pm
Forum: Ephemera
Topic: Elections in various countries
Replies: 1099
Views: 609766

Re: Elections in various countries

Just in case you didn't hear it yet, Northern Ireland seems to have an Executive again, because they somehow managed it to get the DUP to temporarily stop sulking. I must be extra thick these days because I've read over the new agreement and still don't quite understand what concession from the Bri...
by Richard W
Mon Feb 05, 2024 7:00 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4725
Views: 2067105

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

The precedent for not assimilating the first <c> would be Old French acciun , 'action', if it is truly inherited. A more typical pattern would be for the first <c> to vocalise to <i>, but that seem undependable - compare façon , inherited from factionem - and too deviant to have fed back into Latin.
by Richard W
Mon Feb 05, 2024 2:58 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4725
Views: 2067105

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

Nortaneous wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 4:55 pm Isn't Afroasiatic mostly defined by shared morphology, with hardly any accepted cognates?
The number of 35 is widely bandied around; I note that Wiktionary has 36 Proto-afroasiatic terms.
by Richard W
Mon Jan 29, 2024 4:13 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: English questions
Replies: 1406
Views: 451412

Re: English questions

Do I get this right that the statements " I have never done [fill in bad thing here], unlike certain other people " and " I have never done [fill in bad thing here], like certain other people " mean basically the same thing? There may not be a prescriptive rule on the matter, bu...
by Richard W
Sat Jan 06, 2024 6:50 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: A guide to writing systems
Replies: 138
Views: 288859

Re: A guide to writing systems

The text really is riddled with scannos. I can't help wondering if some of them are deliberate jokes, such as 'r' frequently being misalphabeticised as 'l'. Hah, funny… except that I checked a bunch of random words, and ⟨r⟩ always seems to be transcribed as ⟨r⟩ (except for one word where it became ...
by Richard W
Thu Jan 04, 2024 1:24 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: A guide to writing systems
Replies: 138
Views: 288859

Re: A guide to writing systems

Richard W wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 1:16 pm
bradrn wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 7:06 am Surely Proto-SW Tai is sufficiently old that it predates the scripts?
No. The Khmer were chiselling away in Khmer by 611, while Pittayaporn dates the start of the expansion of SW Tai to the 8th to 10th centuries AD.