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by akam chinjir
Thu Jun 04, 2020 1:26 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Morphological complexity
Replies: 72
Views: 37924

Re: Morphological complexity

Finally, my point (b) above is of course highly informal. Brad already quoted my standard invocation of Li & Thompson. But I think people still routinely underestimate the complexity of English syntax. I've written a 300-page book on it, and believe me, it's a primer. McCawley's textbook is 800...
by akam chinjir
Wed Jun 03, 2020 10:25 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: How did you personally go about choosing your language's syntax and other related attributes?
Replies: 43
Views: 22281

Re: How did you personally go about choosing your language's syntax and other related attributes?

Like for example saying to myself "I'm gonna craft a system of aspectual contrasts and see what I can do with them" is a much more interesting proposition that simply asking "does my conlang have aspect?." For myself, I'm usually pretty unsatisfied if I set out to design a parad...
by akam chinjir
Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:35 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4707
Views: 2065388

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

(Okay, one example: apparently my English allows all three options with first person singular, at least.) Could you give an example? To my knowledge, English doesn’t have any clitic pronouns, and has only exceedingly rare pro-drop. I wrote that after noticing that in my previous sentence, I'd pro-d...
by akam chinjir
Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:05 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4707
Views: 2065388

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

No, that wasn’t what I was talking about. Basically, if you have a language with pronominal clitics (for subjects, say), you can do either ‘I see you’ or ‘1s=see you’. If you have a language with pervasive zero anaphora, you can do either ‘I see you’ or ‘∅ see you’. I was asking whether I could com...
by akam chinjir
Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:37 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4707
Views: 2065388

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

Raphael wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:29 pm It sounds a bit Yoda-ish to me, but English isn't my first language.
Does it help if you make "his job" a contrastive topic? ("His job Mike hates, but his conlanging he loves.")
by akam chinjir
Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:09 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4707
Views: 2065388

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

Richard W wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:02 pm I'm now having trouble deciding whether "His job Mike hates" is a grammatical English sentence when 'his' refers to Mike.
It's fine for me, I'm pretty sure.
by akam chinjir
Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:40 pm
Forum: Ephemera
Topic: Random Thread
Replies: 3734
Views: 453527

Re: Random Thread

The wikipedia article on pottery says so, but without the sort of detail you'd probably want.
by akam chinjir
Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:36 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4707
Views: 2065388

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

Another quick question: are there any languages with both pervasive zero anaphora (e.g. as covered by chris_notts here ) as well as subject pronominal clitics? I’m guessing not (if you have one highly reduced form of reference, you don’t need another), but I thought I’d better check before adding o...
by akam chinjir
Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:17 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4707
Views: 2065388

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

That sounds right to me, though some people would say "movement" instead of "fronting."

Incidentally, checking my instincts on this I came upon a relevant Language Log post that you might find interesting. (There's useful stuff in the comments, too.)
by akam chinjir
Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:34 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4707
Views: 2065388

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

I’ve been reading through two grammars recently, of Chalcatongo Mixtec and Northeast Ambae (Lolovoli dialect). One thing that has struck me particularly about these two languages is that they both have topic fronting, and in both languages the fronted topic is extra-clausal (e.g. it can co-occur wi...
by akam chinjir
Sun May 31, 2020 6:02 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conlang Random Thread
Replies: 3024
Views: 2853245

Re: Conlang Random Thread

So at this point, I think I’m a bit stumped… Does anyone else have any ideas? Matthew Gordon has both a book and a handbook chapter (with a free online draft ) called "Syllable Weight," they're both about this stuff. One of the lessons is that stress assignment and minimal word constraint...
by akam chinjir
Thu May 14, 2020 1:38 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Pronouns with restrictive relative clauses
Replies: 17
Views: 8660

Re: Ergativity for Novices

"We who are about to die salute you."
by akam chinjir
Mon May 11, 2020 12:34 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4707
Views: 2065388

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

Does anyone know of any good resources on syntactic ergativity, as opposed to morphological ergativity? I want to write a section about it as the next post in my ergativity series , but none of my sources (mainly Dixon, McGregor, Oxford Handbook of Ergativity ) seem to have much information about i...
by akam chinjir
Sun May 10, 2020 3:23 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4707
Views: 2065388

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

bradrn actually talked about that account of split ergativity in his latest post :)
by akam chinjir
Sat May 09, 2020 1:19 am
Forum: Ephemera
Topic: The New ZBB Quote Thread
Replies: 318
Views: 339812

Re: The New ZBB Quote Thread

Linguoboy wrote: Fri May 08, 2020 2:21 pm I think what we learn from all this is that it's a fine, fine line between Sumer and Shang.
by akam chinjir
Fri May 08, 2020 2:41 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4707
Views: 2065388

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

On the other hand, none of this helps with my original question: what is the difference between the continuous and the progressive? (Although I don’t think you meant to address this question at all in your post.) As I said earlier, I don't think we've found one, unless someone can find one in a lan...
by akam chinjir
Sat May 02, 2020 11:36 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: How common are SAE features?
Replies: 35
Views: 17306

Re: How common are SAE features?

(Also, completely off-topic tangential question: what is functionalism? I’ve heard you use the term a couple of times, but I have no idea what it means.) Probably you'd say "typology" in about the same contexts? I more or less mean it as a cover term for non-formal typological work; but I...
by akam chinjir
Sat May 02, 2020 10:10 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Name That Language!
Replies: 1182
Views: 446342

Re: Name That Language!

Hey, I spotted the code switching!
by akam chinjir
Sat May 02, 2020 10:09 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: How common are SAE features?
Replies: 35
Views: 17306

Re: How common are SAE features?

For example, the so-called "reflexive pronouns" of Classical Latin always refer back to the subject of the main verb no matter where they are in the sentence. This means that they aren't quite the stereotype of "reflexive pronouns" in modern Western European languages, but rathe...
by akam chinjir
Sat May 02, 2020 3:31 am
Forum: Ephemera
Topic: Random Thread
Replies: 3734
Views: 453527

Re: Random Thread

I think C J Cherryh's Foreigner books do a fair bit of that, the atevi having very different emotions from humans.