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- Thu Jun 04, 2020 1:26 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Morphological complexity
- Replies: 72
- Views: 37924
Re: Morphological complexity
Finally, my point (b) above is of course highly informal. Brad already quoted my standard invocation of Li & Thompson. But I think people still routinely underestimate the complexity of English syntax. I've written a 300-page book on it, and believe me, it's a primer. McCawley's textbook is 800...
- Wed Jun 03, 2020 10:25 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: How did you personally go about choosing your language's syntax and other related attributes?
- Replies: 43
- Views: 22281
Re: How did you personally go about choosing your language's syntax and other related attributes?
Like for example saying to myself "I'm gonna craft a system of aspectual contrasts and see what I can do with them" is a much more interesting proposition that simply asking "does my conlang have aspect?." For myself, I'm usually pretty unsatisfied if I set out to design a parad...
- Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:35 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
- Replies: 4707
- Views: 2065388
Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
(Okay, one example: apparently my English allows all three options with first person singular, at least.) Could you give an example? To my knowledge, English doesn’t have any clitic pronouns, and has only exceedingly rare pro-drop. I wrote that after noticing that in my previous sentence, I'd pro-d...
- Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:05 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
- Replies: 4707
- Views: 2065388
Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
No, that wasn’t what I was talking about. Basically, if you have a language with pronominal clitics (for subjects, say), you can do either ‘I see you’ or ‘1s=see you’. If you have a language with pervasive zero anaphora, you can do either ‘I see you’ or ‘∅ see you’. I was asking whether I could com...
- Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:37 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
- Replies: 4707
- Views: 2065388
- Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:09 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
- Replies: 4707
- Views: 2065388
- Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:40 pm
- Forum: Ephemera
- Topic: Random Thread
- Replies: 3734
- Views: 453527
Re: Random Thread
The wikipedia article on pottery says so, but without the sort of detail you'd probably want.
- Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:36 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
- Replies: 4707
- Views: 2065388
Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Another quick question: are there any languages with both pervasive zero anaphora (e.g. as covered by chris_notts here ) as well as subject pronominal clitics? I’m guessing not (if you have one highly reduced form of reference, you don’t need another), but I thought I’d better check before adding o...
- Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:17 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
- Replies: 4707
- Views: 2065388
Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
That sounds right to me, though some people would say "movement" instead of "fronting."
Incidentally, checking my instincts on this I came upon a relevant Language Log post that you might find interesting. (There's useful stuff in the comments, too.)
Incidentally, checking my instincts on this I came upon a relevant Language Log post that you might find interesting. (There's useful stuff in the comments, too.)
- Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:34 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
- Replies: 4707
- Views: 2065388
Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
I’ve been reading through two grammars recently, of Chalcatongo Mixtec and Northeast Ambae (Lolovoli dialect). One thing that has struck me particularly about these two languages is that they both have topic fronting, and in both languages the fronted topic is extra-clausal (e.g. it can co-occur wi...
- Sun May 31, 2020 6:02 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Conlang Random Thread
- Replies: 3024
- Views: 2853245
Re: Conlang Random Thread
So at this point, I think I’m a bit stumped… Does anyone else have any ideas? Matthew Gordon has both a book and a handbook chapter (with a free online draft ) called "Syllable Weight," they're both about this stuff. One of the lessons is that stress assignment and minimal word constraint...
- Thu May 14, 2020 1:38 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Pronouns with restrictive relative clauses
- Replies: 17
- Views: 8660
Re: Ergativity for Novices
"We who are about to die salute you."
- Mon May 11, 2020 12:34 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
- Replies: 4707
- Views: 2065388
Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Does anyone know of any good resources on syntactic ergativity, as opposed to morphological ergativity? I want to write a section about it as the next post in my ergativity series , but none of my sources (mainly Dixon, McGregor, Oxford Handbook of Ergativity ) seem to have much information about i...
- Sun May 10, 2020 3:23 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
- Replies: 4707
- Views: 2065388
Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
bradrn actually talked about that account of split ergativity in his latest post
- Sat May 09, 2020 1:19 am
- Forum: Ephemera
- Topic: The New ZBB Quote Thread
- Replies: 318
- Views: 339812
- Fri May 08, 2020 2:41 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
- Replies: 4707
- Views: 2065388
Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
On the other hand, none of this helps with my original question: what is the difference between the continuous and the progressive? (Although I don’t think you meant to address this question at all in your post.) As I said earlier, I don't think we've found one, unless someone can find one in a lan...
- Sat May 02, 2020 11:36 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: How common are SAE features?
- Replies: 35
- Views: 17306
Re: How common are SAE features?
(Also, completely off-topic tangential question: what is functionalism? I’ve heard you use the term a couple of times, but I have no idea what it means.) Probably you'd say "typology" in about the same contexts? I more or less mean it as a cover term for non-formal typological work; but I...
- Sat May 02, 2020 10:10 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Name That Language!
- Replies: 1182
- Views: 446342
Re: Name That Language!
Hey, I spotted the code switching!
- Sat May 02, 2020 10:09 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: How common are SAE features?
- Replies: 35
- Views: 17306
Re: How common are SAE features?
For example, the so-called "reflexive pronouns" of Classical Latin always refer back to the subject of the main verb no matter where they are in the sentence. This means that they aren't quite the stereotype of "reflexive pronouns" in modern Western European languages, but rathe...
- Sat May 02, 2020 3:31 am
- Forum: Ephemera
- Topic: Random Thread
- Replies: 3734
- Views: 453527
Re: Random Thread
I think C J Cherryh's Foreigner books do a fair bit of that, the atevi having very different emotions from humans.