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by Darren
Wed Feb 28, 2024 4:49 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Word evolution game
Replies: 2672
Views: 275109

Re: Word evolution game

Nasal dissimilation

['jóml]
Joml
"person"
by Darren
Wed Feb 28, 2024 2:30 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Word evolution game
Replies: 2672
Views: 275109

Re: Word evolution game

Initial consonant loss:

['éː.min]
pétemin
"person"
by Darren
Sat Feb 24, 2024 9:57 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4688
Views: 2062124

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

Some New Guinea languages have really tiny speaker bases while remaining stable, especially in mountainous regions with fairly isolated, small villages. Most Lakes Plain languages have only a few hundred speakers while remaining fairly vibrant. The same was probably historically true for the Amazon;...
by Darren
Tue Feb 20, 2024 2:41 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Twin Aster
Replies: 307
Views: 259627

Re: Twin Aster

Nice alternations! And I like the font too, what is it?
by Darren
Sun Feb 18, 2024 1:37 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Darren's Mitsiefa Thread
Replies: 38
Views: 5976

Re: Darren's scratchpad

Here's the frequencies for some other 6 consonant languages: Obokuitai (b t d k s h) d – 39% k – 22% s – 14% b – 12% t – 9.1% h – 5.2% Iau (b t d k f s) d – 40% b – 21% s – 16% f – 8.4% t – 8% k – 5.6% Rotokas (p t k β ɾ g) t – 34% ɾ – 33% β – 20% k – 8.2% p – 4.7% g – 0.2% North Mekeo (b k β m ŋ l)...
by Darren
Sat Feb 17, 2024 8:13 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Darren's Mitsiefa Thread
Replies: 38
Views: 5976

Re: Darren's scratchpad

Great news is upon us! I have discovered another 6-consonant inventory natlang, the Elema language Orokolo: Astonishing! Looking at a sample , I find it quite hard to believe this is TNG at all. EDIT: Pawley and Hammarström (in The Languages and Linguistics of the New Guinea Area ) seem to doubt a ...
by Darren
Fri Feb 16, 2024 5:51 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
Replies: 985
Views: 477989

Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0

Initials: /pʰ p tʰ t ʈʰ ʈ tɕʰ tɕ kʰ k qʰ q ʔ/ <p b t d tr dr tj dj k g q gq ʔ> /mb nd/ <mb nd> /f θ s ʂ (χ)/ <f c s sr x> /ʋ ð̞ l r j/ <v r l rr y> /m n ŋ/ <m n ng> Medials: /a ɛ œ ɔ e o i ɨ ʉ u/ <a e eo o ei ou i ui iu u> /a̰ ɛ̰ œ̰ ɔ̰ ḛ o̰ ḭ ɨ̰ ʉ̰ ṵ/ <a' e' e'o o' e'i o'u i' u'i i'u u'> /ae ao əi ə...
by Darren
Fri Feb 16, 2024 5:18 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Darren's Mitsiefa Thread
Replies: 38
Views: 5976

Re: Darren's scratchpad

Great news is upon us! I have discovered another 6-consonant inventory natlang, the Elema language Orokolo: p t k h m l The source is A. H. Brown's The Eleman language family . This agrees with all our universals (fwiw the vowel inventory is /i u e o ɔ a/, nothing special), although there's still so...
by Darren
Fri Feb 16, 2024 1:40 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Darren's Mitsiefa Thread
Replies: 38
Views: 5976

Re: Darren's scratchpad

This conlang is fascinating, and beautifully presented. I love the way it sounds. Thank you for sharing. My favourite word is this: /eɑiɑ-eɑiɑ/ IDEO. "hissing" Thanks! I've enjoyed making the ideophones – I would of ended up with less parts of speech if I hadn't included any, which would ...
by Darren
Fri Feb 16, 2024 1:09 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
Replies: 985
Views: 477989

Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0

Aw Seedezi Neway /pᶲ tˢ tʃᶴ kˣ/ ⟨ p t q k ⟩ /p~m t~ɾ~n tʃ~ɲ ts k~ŋ/ ⟨ b~m d~d~n c~ñ z g~ṇ ⟩ /t’ ts’ tʃ’ k’/ ⟨ dt dz dc gk ⟩ /ɓ ɗ ʄ/ ⟨ v l j ⟩ /w j/ ⟨ w y ⟩ /i a u e o/ ⟨ i a u e o ⟩ +lonɡ +nasal ⟨ í i(n) í(n) ⟩ [ʔ] ⟨ h ⟩ Iloski Izqk /p b t d k ɡ/ ⟨ p b t d k g ⟩ /ts dz/ ⟨ ts dz ⟩ /f v s z ʂ ʐ ɕ ʑ x...
by Darren
Mon Feb 12, 2024 2:49 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4688
Views: 2062124

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

Your periodic reminder that Sign languages are languages; also that the languages we have today are not a random sample and not a guide to the linguistic diversity of, say, 10,000 BCE. And there isn't any reason to assume that the languages of 10,000 BC were any different to those of today, or for ...
by Darren
Mon Feb 12, 2024 1:42 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4688
Views: 2062124

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

I think so, although my databases don't have perfect coverage. All languages with no nasals have either a /p b/ or a /p β/ contrast, except Crow and Hidatsa, where nasals are allophones of /w r/, and Pawnee, with /p t ts k ʔ s h w r/. Stop voicing contrasts are too common in Oceania, with the excep...
by Darren
Mon Feb 12, 2024 1:16 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: CBB Reconstruction Relay 2024
Replies: 7
Views: 190

Re: CBB Reconstruction Relay 2024

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by Darren
Sun Feb 11, 2024 2:48 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Darren's Mitsiefa Thread
Replies: 38
Views: 5976

Re: Darren's scratchpad

This, alas, is completely wrong. ‘The island of Vanuatu’ is nonexistent: Vanuatu is composed of more than 80 islands, spanning roughly the distance from Sydney to Brisbane. By François’s count , the largest island (Espiritu Santo) has 37 languages, and the second-largest (Malekua) has 41. That does...
by Darren
Sun Feb 11, 2024 4:09 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Darren's Mitsiefa Thread
Replies: 38
Views: 5976

Re: Darren's scratchpad

The detail here is astonishing . I’m excited to read more about this! Thankyou! I'll try to keep the detail up, but the phonology really is the main thing for this lang. A couple of quibbles: It is undoubtedly for this reason that the island of Vanuatu was able to support at least 140 distinct lang...
by Darren
Sun Feb 11, 2024 2:10 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Darren's Mitsiefa Thread
Replies: 38
Views: 5976

Re: Darren's scratchpad

2. Phonology (continued) 2.4 Word structure In almost all instances the Mitsiefa morphological word and phonological word are identical, since there is no synthetic morphology – the one exception to this is some ideophones which appear to be fossilised reduplicants (§2.4.3). It is possible to analy...
by Darren
Sun Feb 11, 2024 2:10 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Darren's Mitsiefa Thread
Replies: 38
Views: 5976

Re: Darren's scratchpad

2. Phonology (part 1) Mitsiefa phonology has been made as minimal as possible based on my own understanding – necessarily limited – of the phonological universals which can be gleaned from natural languages. The most relevant ones of these are that: (a) all languages have a sonority contrast in the...
by Darren
Sat Feb 10, 2024 10:34 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: CBB Reconstruction Relay 2024
Replies: 7
Views: 190

Re: CBB Reconstruction Relay 2024

I'm done with the relay and i got two languages to reconstruct from. So i don't see how i can't work on a new one. True. I guess now I'd be happy to join another relay. Do you want me to add you to my team? Since it is misssing a player. To the cbb relay? Nah, that would be too hard to coordinate. ...
by Darren
Sat Feb 10, 2024 8:34 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4688
Views: 2062124

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

Reading over Hyman's universals paper, he says that he "can see no principled way to rule out" theoretical phoneme inventories like #1 #2 pʰ tʰ kʰ p t k p t k f s x Because Rotokas has /p t k b d g/ (or /p t k β ɾ g/, same thing). But that got me thinking, is it true that all languages hav...
by Darren
Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:57 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conlang Random Thread
Replies: 2989
Views: 2850346

Re: Conlang Random Thread

There's ways of analysing [j ɥ w] as allophonic in French, but you have to do shady things to explain minimal pairs like pays /pɛi/ "country" vs. paye /pɛj/ "paycheque", or clouassions /kluasjɔ̃/ "(that we) were fucking" vs. cloison /klwazɔ̃/ "partition".