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- Mon Jan 28, 2019 9:24 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: /d/ for intervocalic /t/ in American dictionaries.
- Replies: 17
- Views: 10209
Re: /d/ for intervocalic /t/ in American dictionaries.
I should note that aside from the cases with /ər/ such as tiger and Tiber , it seems all the lenis plosive cases involve /d/. I should also note that there are clear discrepancies such as fiber , which always has [ae̯]. Oh, wow, then I am much different, then. I have raising on cyber (and all deriv...
- Mon Jan 28, 2019 5:09 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: /d/ for intervocalic /t/ in American dictionaries.
- Replies: 17
- Views: 10209
Re: /d/ for intervocalic /t/ in American dictionaries.
The rule seems to be that /aɪ/ is [əe̯] before fortis obstruents and before lenis plosives followed directly by /ə/ (when not realized as [ɘ], e.g. Ida , Idaho ), /ər/ (e.g. tiger , spider ), /əl/ (e.g. idle ), /ɔ/ (e.g. Midol ), or /oʊ/ (e.g. Fido ) unsplit by a morpheme boundary. Note that the vo...
- Sun Jan 27, 2019 9:07 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: The Great Macrofamily thread: Indo-Uralic, Altaic, Eurasiatic, Nostratic etc.
- Replies: 263
- Views: 165970
Re: The Great Macrofamily thread: Indo-Uralic, Altaic, Eurasiatic, Nostratic etc.
Quechua and Mayan are of course attributable to Spanish influence. That's extraordinarily flippant, and unjustified. The q > k shift happened in a number of branches of Mayan and forms a deep and early isogloss in the family, and has nothing to do with Spanish. I don't know about Quechua, but I hop...
- Sat Jan 26, 2019 7:00 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Names, Naming Conventions, and Name Usage
- Replies: 61
- Views: 38124
Re: Names, Naming Conventions, and Name Usage
That history of surnames being used as first names is very interesting. It looks like we've got a step-by-step transformation in use: surname > middle name > male given name > unisex given name > female given name. What's interesting about this is that, in English, it seems to be an almost ironclad ...
- Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:21 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Names, Naming Conventions, and Name Usage
- Replies: 61
- Views: 38124
Re: Names, Naming Conventions, and Name Usage
Pedantry: "Windsor" is the name of the royal house, but it isn't a surname. The British royal family have never had surnames; their royal houses have been terms of convenience, often only applied after the fact. Some of them have descended from surnames - the House of Stuart were descende...
- Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:30 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Names, Naming Conventions, and Name Usage
- Replies: 61
- Views: 38124
Re: Names, Naming Conventions, and Name Usage
Not quite the same thing, but a lot of Kings of Sweden sandwich a regnal number between two personal names, e.g. Carl XVI Gustaf . You see this elsewhere as well: Alexios I Komnenos, for instance. "Komnenos" is a surname, though - the tradition for the later Byzantine emperors is to refer...
- Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:39 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Names, Naming Conventions, and Name Usage
- Replies: 61
- Views: 38124
Re: Names, Naming Conventions, and Name Usage
The "no distinction between name, rank, and title" thing makes me think of the names/titles of a lot of rulers of Persianate monarchies - e.g. the Mughal Emperors Shah Jahan and Bahadur Shah. "Shah" obviously means "king/emperor", and they were kings/emperors, but was &...
- Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:32 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Where are the analytic and nonconcatenative conlangs?
- Replies: 66
- Views: 53596
Re: Where are the analytic and nonconcatenative conlangs?
Well, anyways, I didn't mean to drop a bomb about French grammar, I just wanted to show what disfixation could look like if it did exist in a language. Just pretend the words I listed are from some unrelated language that coincidentally resembles French.
- Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:34 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Conlang Random Thread
- Replies: 3065
- Views: 2892907
Re: Conlang Random Thread
Another complete newbie question: if you divide languages into agglutinative, fusional, and isolating, how common is it for a language belonging to one of these types to eventually turn into another type over time? Very common. For some changes, like completely isolating to completely fusional, we ...
- Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:32 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Where are the analytic and nonconcatenative conlangs?
- Replies: 66
- Views: 53596
Re: Where are the analytic and nonconcatenative conlangs?
Second, a question about the scope of nonconcatenativity: do any of the following count? Truncation - Is this nonconcatenative? If so, why is any one form of the word considered the "base form"? Isn't it just that everything else has an affix, while the truncated form is the base (a-la th...
- Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:48 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Where are the analytic and nonconcatenative conlangs?
- Replies: 66
- Views: 53596
Re: Where are the analytic and nonconcatenative conlangs?
This actually makes me wonder, though: how many conlangs use stress in a similar way? I think I remember a romlang or two that had a regular stress contrast somewhere in the verb system, but otherwise, has anyone made a "stress lang" (so to speak)? I've speculated about making something l...
- Tue Jan 08, 2019 12:12 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Where are the analytic and nonconcatenative conlangs?
- Replies: 66
- Views: 53596
Re: Where are the analytic and nonconcatenative conlangs?
I don't know. Are tone & stress considered "morphology"? I assumed they weren't, and therefor wouldn't be "non-concatenative morphology". Tone and stress are absolutely considered morphology. They're distinct phonological segments which can bear meaning - there are morphemes...
- Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:26 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
- Replies: 4747
- Views: 2138890
Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
I suddenly wonder - are there sign languages with phonological alternations? That is, purely phonological in diachronic origin, akin to consonant mutation or umlaut? I know some (most? all?) sign languages have verbal alternations marking aspect (e.g. iterative, etc) but I'm under the impression the...
- Wed Jan 02, 2019 2:12 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Is there anything cool about Esperanto?
- Replies: 38
- Views: 16929
Re: Is there anything cool about Esperanto?
Well, Esperanto will always be interesting in that it's the most widespread and successful conlang in history - it has a 130-year-old linguistic community with tens of thousands of members and even some native speakers. I don't think it's particularly good as an auxlang, but the fact that it's gener...
- Mon Dec 31, 2018 1:23 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Evidentiality
- Replies: 14
- Views: 7843
Re: Evidentiality
Something useful I found out recently from The Oxford Handbook of Grammaticalization - evidential categories often develop from "ordinary", non-evidential TAM forms. This typically happens when a TAM form takes on an evidential implication or shade of meaning. This can remain stable of cou...
- Sat Dec 29, 2018 10:26 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Random phonological inventories thread 2.0
- Replies: 25
- Views: 20177
Re: Random phonological inventories thread 2.0
Very boldly minimalistic, like a toy Iroquoian language.2+3 Clusivity wrote: ↑Sat Nov 10, 2018 8:52 am /t ts k/
/s h/
/n/
/ʉ a/ plus accent, nasalization.
{s, h}CVC
Onset h only surfaces following an accented $.
Wrt onset /h/, do you mean lone onset /h/, or /hC/ clusters? Or both?
- Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:26 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
- Replies: 4747
- Views: 2138890
Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Does anyone know of any languages with fairly simple phonologies - especially ones with small phoneme inventories, and possibly ones with very simple phonotactics - that have a good amount of morphological alternations? I can think of rendaku and Lyman's law in Japanese, and those stem extensions th...
- Sat Dec 15, 2018 12:02 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Noah Webster's spelling reform. Was it a bad idea?
- Replies: 24
- Views: 12992
Re: Noah Webster's spelling reform. Was it a bad idea?
Yeah, all of the changes were pretty superficial. The only British-American spelling difference that's ever caused me trouble is draught. I went years not realizing it was the same as draft, thinking it was pronounced the same as drought.
- Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:05 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
- Replies: 4747
- Views: 2138890
Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Does anyone happen to know of any languages that permit only one particular consonant in the coda, other than /n/ or an archiphonemic nasal? (like in Japanese?) E.g. a language that only allows /s/ in the coda. I do know there's Iau with its word-final [p̚] < /f/, but that's very unusual if I'm not ...
- Sun Nov 11, 2018 6:25 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Non native users of sign languages
- Replies: 7
- Views: 4566
Re: Non native users of sign languages
Yes, there is a "hearing accent" that is very obvious to native signers. Presumably the "hearing accent" (or rather, the non-native "hearing variety") differs depending on the native language of the hearing learner. But I suspect that many (mainly phonological) aspects ...