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by missals
Wed Jul 03, 2019 9:28 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Need help with my triconsonantal root language
Replies: 19
Views: 9044

Re: Need help with my triconsonantal root language

Honestly? My sort-of-consonantal-root-language isn't even diachronic-first. I make the patterns I want first and then bullshit out justifications after the fact, because I know from experience that doing it the other way round is headache-inducing. I haven't even gone all the way back to pre-conson...
by missals
Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:18 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: The Missals Scratchpad
Replies: 3
Views: 3129

The Missals Scratchpad

Here's something I came up with suddenly this afternoon - yes, a Romlang nominal inflection table, how wonderful. Inspired by Romanian's suffixed article, of course. A word in each of the three genders is provided. https://i.imgur.com/jAcLqSW.png https://i.imgur.com/4SeJfYX.png https://i.imgur.com/U...
by missals
Sun Jun 23, 2019 11:21 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conlang Random Thread
Replies: 3065
Views: 2892941

Re: Conlang Random Thread

Knit Tie wrote: Sun Jun 23, 2019 7:23 pm
Nortaneous wrote: Sun Jun 23, 2019 1:32 pm
Akangka wrote: Sun Jun 23, 2019 2:01 am Is it realistic to turn rhotacized vowel into creaky voiced vowel?
no
Really?
I mean, why would it be? What physiological motivation would there be?
by missals
Sat Jun 22, 2019 12:24 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4747
Views: 2138939

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

Anyone else have laxing of vowels before /l/ in common contractions, such as we'll , you'll , he'll , and she'll ? (For me we'll and wool , he'll and hill , and she'll and shill are homophones outside careful speech.) Likewise - in fact, I would say that my variety has completely lost the full-vowe...
by missals
Sun Jun 09, 2019 9:28 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4747
Views: 2138939

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

I haven't heard of the Sino-Platonic Papers before. I guess it's not a very reputable journal? It's a project Mair has run since the 1980s - it's a journal, but not really a traditional one, that focuses on "the intercultural relations of China with other peoples". It encourages submissio...
by missals
Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:42 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4747
Views: 2138939

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

I honestly wish they'd remove Mair's posting rights. Even if it would kill the blog, it being that he's practically the only one who posts anymore. (Though they could invite a new crop of posters.) The first outright crackpot he platformed on the blog - the one involving that laughable "transla...
by missals
Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:00 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conlang Random Thread
Replies: 3065
Views: 2892941

Re: Conlang Random Thread

I've been thinking about a conlang where most words have a C(R)VC template that can be plugged in with /a i u/ and suffixed with /ə/. Each root has a different pattern of vocalism (well, not each root, you could group them in classes or declensions) that could be described as a paradigm of case-numb...
by missals
Thu May 23, 2019 1:18 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: A language with no questions?
Replies: 13
Views: 6270

Re: A language with no questions?

There actually apparently is a language in Mesomaerica that has absolutely no grammatical method for forming questions at all, not through a particle, word order, intonation, or anything. I.e. questions do not exist as a distinct type of sentence - requests for information, if not phrased as imperat...
by missals
Sun May 05, 2019 11:29 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 1333
Views: 832633

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

how realistic is ɛ > e before velars and at the end of a word? The former happens in contemporary American English: leg and egg , for example, historically end in /ɛg/, but many people in the Midwest (including myself) pronounce them with [eg]. As for the latter, you don't really need an excuse to ...
by missals
Sat Apr 13, 2019 9:00 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 1333
Views: 832633

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

That sounds completely fine. It's just a merger.
by missals
Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:12 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conlang Random Thread
Replies: 3065
Views: 2892941

Re: Conlang Random Thread

It's a kinda weird but if it's just a gap in patterning of CC onsets it's not unbelievable or anything. What would be unbelievable if a language allowed, say, CCC onsets but not CC ones.
by missals
Thu Mar 28, 2019 10:49 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 1333
Views: 832633

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

I mean, if you don't have anything in between blocking your way, you can pretty much just go directly: /ɒː/ > /aː/ or /æː/ > /eː/. Or you can raise it first, then front: /ɒː/ > /oː/ > /əː/ or /øː/ > /eː/. All of these are attested. For some reason long vowels just love to front and raise. And note t...
by missals
Wed Mar 27, 2019 8:36 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 1333
Views: 832633

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

No, they're different sound changes. Some languages do have this kind of epenthesis/prothesis/excrescence where a final vowel like /u/ gains an offglide that can fortite to a fricative or stop, like u > uw > ug or something. But there are also changes where coda glides (whether word-final or not, an...
by missals
Mon Mar 18, 2019 10:26 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4747
Views: 2138939

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

I find large amounts of eye-dialect spellings baffling, because they don't show any difference with standard pronunciation. What's the point of writing yer, ta in a character's bubble, in a context when everybody would use a schwa anyway?? To make the character seem uneducated with a completely unf...
by missals
Tue Mar 05, 2019 12:31 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4747
Views: 2138939

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

Yeah, it's quite perplexing to insist that the US doesn't have significant dialectal differences anymore - or even, whether or not they're "significant", any varieties truly distinctive to a particular region. Now, there is a lot of leveling and spreading going on. And the middle/professio...
by missals
Wed Feb 20, 2019 6:06 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 1333
Views: 832633

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

I find that a lot of newbie conlangers are extremely reticent and unconfident about what kinds of sound changes are plausible. I guess because they don't yet have an understanding of what makes sound changes plausible. If you don't have a basic understanding of articulatory and acoustic phonetics, t...
by missals
Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:12 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Longer words for pronouns.
Replies: 33
Views: 20443

Re: Longer words for pronouns.

English of course has the pronoun your excellency , sometimes abbreviated simply to excellency. EDIT: and in a specific register it has the wonderful pronoun my right honourable and learned friend . This is a combined 2nd ("I will get back to my right honourable and learned friend with that in...
by missals
Sat Feb 02, 2019 6:19 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Standard Average You: A Revival and Revisit
Replies: 6
Views: 3619

Re: Standard Average You: A Revival and Revisit

I've never brought any conlang to even a very meager degree of fleshed-outness, but when I fiddle around with and sketch out different ideas, things that tend to come up again and again are: Strong tendency for maximal CV syllable structure Simple vowel inventory, usually the five cardinal vowels, s...
by missals
Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:21 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conlang Random Thread
Replies: 3065
Views: 2892941

Re: Conlang Random Thread

My point is the absence of other way to form inflection, nothing can distiguish suppletion with being a different root. You could say "come" as suppletive venitive conjugation of "go". But it's not how English works. Yeah, sorry, I should've been more clear - not true suppletion...
by missals
Wed Jan 30, 2019 12:57 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conlang Random Thread
Replies: 3065
Views: 2892941

Re: Conlang Random Thread

Occasionally I've thought about making a conlang whose history took it directly from largely analytic to largely internally-modifying, without passing through an agglutinative or fusional stage. There's precedent in various kinds of diachronic and synchronic changes in different languages around the...