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by Zaarin
Sun May 05, 2019 4:16 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4747
Views: 2139229

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

Do you know what pronoun to use in organization. For example NASA, or UN? He, She, It, or They? If the organization is acting concertedly, "it"; if the organization is acting with disunity, "they." (e.g., "NASA announced it launched a new probe," but "The UN are d...
by Zaarin
Sat May 04, 2019 2:00 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conlang Random Thread
Replies: 3065
Views: 2893164

Re: Conlang Random Thread

Ryan of Tinellb wrote: Sat May 04, 2019 12:28 pm
Amal is phonologically inspired by Semitic languages.
I'm guessing not Arabic, with Amal's presence of /p/ and absence of /ħʕɣq/. Hebrew? Or am I way wrong?
Biblical Hebrew had all of /p ħ ʕ kʼ/--and [ɣ] counting begadkefet. My guess would be Akkadian.
by Zaarin
Sat May 04, 2019 10:55 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4747
Views: 2139229

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

Hominid wrote: Sat May 04, 2019 7:39 am I heard someone say "I shook my head yes" to mean "I nodded my head." Is this a new thing? A regional thing?
I wouldn't use it personally, but I'm too accustomed to hearing it for it to sound remarkable to me.
by Zaarin
Fri May 03, 2019 3:55 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Terrible Arabic?
Replies: 17
Views: 12086

Re: Terrible Arabic?

zompist wrote: Thu May 02, 2019 10:07 pmI don't remember which program was the culprit, though.
Photoshop? Photoshop garbled my Syriac.
by Zaarin
Thu May 02, 2019 11:07 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4747
Views: 2139229

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

Do you know what pronoun to use in organization. For example NASA, or UN? He, She, It, or They? If the organization is acting concertedly, "it"; if the organization is acting with disunity, "they." (e.g., "NASA announced it launched a new probe," but "The UN are d...
by Zaarin
Tue Apr 30, 2019 6:45 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 1333
Views: 832731

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

Also, really for my information more than anything else: Since there are no voicing contrasts until the implosives become regular voiced stops and merge with the allophonically voiced tennis stops, is it plausible with my phonotactics to have allophonically devoiced implosives? If so, where? Anyone...
by Zaarin
Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:09 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 1782
Views: 4953375

Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread

Travis B. wrote: Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:43 pm -ally, as in literally
[ɫ̩(ɫ)i]
by Zaarin
Fri Apr 26, 2019 3:39 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Pronunciations you had to unlearn
Replies: 805
Views: 547436

Re: Pronunciations you had to unlearn

Hmm, I've never heard prescient or nascent with any vowel but /ɛ/ and /ei/ respectively...
by Zaarin
Wed Apr 24, 2019 11:21 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4747
Views: 2139229

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

It's not exactly an innovation, but I have the feeling "nice" has come full circle. In my day, it was most often used sarcastically, to the point where I stopped using it to express approval. But now I'm seeing it used more often at face values (e.g. twice by younger friends only yesterda...
by Zaarin
Tue Apr 23, 2019 1:13 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4747
Views: 2139229

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

I've never heard the term "housemade," but I might equate it with "made in house"--i.e., something made from fresh ingredients in a restaurant rather than something pre-packaged/institutionalized distributed to the restaurant. For me, "homemade" means made from fresh in...
by Zaarin
Sat Apr 20, 2019 8:18 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4747
Views: 2139229

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

Yes, that was my impression. It wouldn't be the first time that Wikipedia gave undue credence to someone's pet theory...
by Zaarin
Sat Apr 20, 2019 5:48 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4747
Views: 2139229

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

A friend recently asked me if Pashto was a direct descendant of Avestan, and I told him it was my understanding that Avestan wasn't believed to have any direct descendants. I now see that Pashto's Wikipedia page, however, cites two linguists, one 19th century and one modern, as claiming that Pashto ...
by Zaarin
Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:09 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Click consonants?
Replies: 24
Views: 12792

Re: Click consonants?

What I mean is that names on a map are typically, synchronically, often not recognizable by people using them. This is true in Europe and the Middle East, but in Pre-Columbian North America it was quite normal for place names to be 100% transparent. Also in North America I can think of plenty of pl...
by Zaarin
Fri Apr 12, 2019 5:57 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 1782
Views: 4953375

Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread

The classics: * anti- (as in anticommunist, antiseptic, antidepressant) * multi- (as in multilingual, and the distinct "multiverse") * bi- (as in bidirectional, bisexual) * di- (as in dihydrogen monoxide) Is there any pattern on who uses which pronunciation of the -i-? I have /i/ or /ɪ/ i...
by Zaarin
Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:45 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Sound Change Critique Thread
Replies: 61
Views: 50472

Re: Sound Change Critique Thread

I'm not sure a geminate glottal stop is even possible--if it were, I'd think Semitic would allow it, which it doesn't. ;) It definitely exists in Classical Arabic. That would explain a lot: Arabic is the non-Ethiopian Semitic language I know the least about (barring Old South Arabian and Modern Sou...
by Zaarin
Thu Apr 11, 2019 7:46 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Sound Change Critique Thread
Replies: 61
Views: 50472

Re: Sound Change Critique Thread

Aside from just their plausibility, I'm curious as to how long these might be expected to take. I had estimated about 2000-2500 years, but that may be way off. I don't think there's a standard or consistent rate of change, but your proposed time depth looks fine to me. 4. u-mutation: i e {a æ} → y ...
by Zaarin
Thu Apr 11, 2019 7:17 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Sound Change Critique Thread
Replies: 61
Views: 50472

Re: Sound Change Critique Thread

Maybe this is nitpicking, but are you trying to say that 'it is suspect to geminate all medial clusters', or 'it is suspect for gemination to always preserve the first consonant'', or both? The latter--I have no problem imagining a language in which all internal CC sequences are geminates. Whimemsz...
by Zaarin
Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:10 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Click consonants?
Replies: 24
Views: 12792

Re: Click consonants?

(The second part is a good point to bring up, though, depending on what the OP's intended use of the naming language is.) Though Tolkien would like to remind you that you can create a perfectly accessible phonology and still have people butcher your names--like /s/ in Celeborn or /ɒ/ in Sauron . Th...
by Zaarin
Thu Apr 11, 2019 10:45 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Sound Change Critique Thread
Replies: 61
Views: 50472

Re: Sound Change Critique Thread

Also, never in my mind this change is good: hat.su > hat.tu. It's more likely to turn into this instead hat.su > ha.t͡su or hat.t͡su. Attic Greek has such a change, but it has an intermediate step Tt > t͡sː > tt (a similar change in Celtic and other Greek dialects yielded /sː/). I'm inclined to agr...
by Zaarin
Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:58 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Sound Change Critique Thread
Replies: 61
Views: 50472

Re: Sound Change Critique Thread

I bit suspect this is not that realistic. For example, phoneme like /iwk/ can turn in /ivk/ which is harder to pronounce. Probably it's better if w>f b > v / _C happened in Neo-Punic. w > v unconditionally is so trivially common as to be not worth mentioning. /ivk/ is not at all hard for me to pron...