Zompist Bboard Again

bradrn wrote: ↑Tue Mar 11, 2025 6:17 am

Darren wrote: ↑Tue Mar 11, 2025 5:54 am Chemakum (do not look at the 19th-century orthography for this one)

I feel a sudden urge to make a conlang with ⟨ʞ⟩.

Very much same.

I like this. Abandon as you wish, but this has a nice character to it and it could be fun to work in toponymic data to build the lexicon. Question: did the Anglo-Saxons skip Doggerland? Presumably, there was some settlement and my preliminary draft for Old Doggerlandic's vowel system rips height-ha...

Because Cyrillic probably fits it more than any Latin orthography. /mʲ mˠ n̪ˠ nʲ ɲ ŋ/ <м м н н ӈ ӈ> /pʲ pˠ t̪ˠ tʲ c k/ <п п т т к к> /bʲ bˠ d̪ˠ dʲ ɟ g/ <б б д д ґ ґ> /fʲ fˠ sˠ ʃ ç x h/ <ф ф с с х х ҳ> /vʲ w l̪ˠ lʲ j ɣ/ <в в л л г г> /ɾʲ ɾˠ/ <р р> /a e i o u ə/ <а э ы о у ӕ> after broad, <я е и ё ю і...

I would only see that happening in case of intensive contact and bilingualism, which would leave a lot more evidence in a language than a few odd stems. A good example of this occurring in a natlang without intensive bilingualism is the borrowing of nasal vowels from French by German, as I highly d...

Several comments: Grammaticalisation shifts are generally not reversible. They almost invariably go from the more concrete to the more abstract, not the other way around. Beware that Grice’s maxims are not at all universal: they apply well to Western culture, but not so well elsewhere. (Wierzbicka’...

The second, and more interesting IMO, concerns existentials. In English, a 'gnomic' existential is often used to express the fact that something exists with present relevance (There's a duck, There's someone watching us). If I had to guess, the semantic shift went direct locative (as in 'right ther...

Two trains of thought I had during a run, each resulting in some weird but hopefully not unnaturalistic morphosyntax. The first started from the verb 'to know', which I thought it might be fun to reinterpret as ditransitive in a conlang. So syntactic (I) know (he likes ducks) would be reinterpreted ...

I like this. Abandon as you wish, but this has a nice character to it and it could be fun to work in toponymic data to build the lexicon. Question: did the Anglo-Saxons skip Doggerland? Presumably, there was some settlement and my preliminary draft for Old Doggerlandic's vowel system rips height-ha...

I have one slight quibble: The following step: [ul] [*]/pː kː/ became /f x/. Other geminates degeminated. [/ul] is not very plausible if plain /p k/ are preserved. I would personally do /p k/ > /f x/ followed by /pː kː/ > /p k/. As foxcatdog pointed out, this is a change directly lifted from Brytho...

Yet another project that I'll abandon within a few days. Out of character this project is inspired by the Goidelic substrate hypothesis as well as the outdated notion that Pictish was paleo-European. * indicates a placeholder name. The Eteobrittanic languages are a pre-Indo-European language family ...

I have created a monster. /m n/ <m n> /pʰ tʰ qʲʰ qʰ qʷʰ/ <p t q́ q qʷ> /ɖ ɢʲ ɢ ɢʷ/ <D Ǵ G Gʷ> /bʱ ɖʱ ɢʲʱ ɢʱ ɢʷʱ/ <bʰ Dʰ Ǵʰ Gʰ Gʷʰ> /t͡ɬ t͡ʃ q͡χʲ q͡χ q͡χʷ/ <tlh ch Q́ Q Qʷ> /d͡ʒ/ <j> /d͡ʒʱ/ <jʰ> /ʂ xʲ x xʷ/ <S H₁ H₂ H₃> /v ɣʲ ɣ ɣʷ/ <v gh₁ gh₂ gh₃> /l r j w/ <l r y w> /i u/ <i u> /e eː o oː/ <e ē o ō>...

The Rad-Priests of Oqsh Oqsh (whose name has existed for some time and wasn't made up because of Oklo—it might be spelt different but I've mentioned it in this thread before) is a polity somewhere within the Burning Mountains (presumably on the northern face and not "in the elbow"). I rea...

I don't know enough about Sepik-Ramu grammar so have a phonology and some barebones stuff. /m n/ /pʰ tʰ tsʰ tʃʰ kʰ qʰ/ /pʼ tʼ tsʼ tʃʼ kʼ qʼ/ /ⁿb ⁿd ⁿdz ⁿdʒ ⁿɡ/ /s ʃ x h/ /v z ʒ ɣ/ /l j/ /r/ /a ə ɨ/ + length for all Nominative, accusative, dative, genitive cases + a set of locative particles. Subject...

Just one thing that comes to mind ─ you detail two entirely different fates for each of /ᵐb ⁿd/; could you detail more when each of these fates occur, assuming this isn't an oversight? Note I specify "trilling environments". I haven't decided exactly what that'll be, but it'll probably ha...

Yet another new project. Notes dump: Proto-lang: /m n/ /p b t d k g/ /ɸ s x/ /l r j w/ VdV {VgV VxV} > diphthongs b > β / V_V w > β V > Vː / _CV (also before resonant + voiced stop clusters at the same POA, i.e. /mb nd ŋg ld rd/) C[-vcd] > C[+vcd] / V_V Vs > Vː / _C Cː > C Palatalisation (blocked i...

Yet another new project. Notes dump: Proto-lang: /m n/ /p b t d k g/ /ɸ s x/ /l r j w/ VdV {VgV VxV} > diphthongs b > β / V_V w > β V > Vː / _CV (also before resonant + voiced stop clusters at the same POA, i.e. /mb nd ŋg ld rd/) C[-vcd] > C[+vcd] / V_V Vs > Vː / _C Cː > C Palatalisation (blocked in...

What is English "of" doing in what from all appearances is a Slavic name, or at least a name with Slavic components (even though the language's phoneme inventory doesn't look very Slavic)? It's an a priori lang heavily inspired by European languages. It's not very 'serious' as a conlang. ...

A lang I created mostly to play around with personal names. /ɾuːðaɲaɪ̯/ /m n ɲ/ /p b t d k g q/ /t͡s t͡ʃ d͡ʒ/ /f v θ ð s z ʃ ʒ x h/ /l ʎ j/ /ɾ r/ /a e i ɨ o ø u y ɾ̩~ɚ/ /aː eː iː ɨː oː øː uː yː/ /aɪ̯ aʊ̯ oɪ̯/ And, in absence of a corpus, a personal name: (Note that all except the /av/ particle shoul...

Croatian <Chrhváçký> /p b t d k g/ <p b t d c~(c)k g(h)> /ts tʃ dʒ tɕ dʑ/ <ç č j c(i)~ç g(i)~gy> /m n ɲ/ <m n ň> /f s z ʃ ʒ x/ <f s z š ž ch> /ʋ r j l ʎ/ <v r y l ľ> Before front vowels and /j/, /k g tɕ dʑ/ are <k gh c g>, before a non-/j/ consonant or word-finally they are <ck g c gy>, and before n...

One could always romanise the glottal stop <q> or even the lower-case variant of the regular symbol (on phone rn so can't type it). Or given it only occurs after vowels, perhaps mark on the vowel. I'd use an underdot.