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[øː] > [joː] [xjòːɟ.ɟé] 偽 | へうりぇう | ひょーっぎぇ | 허러 | hyōggye Kanji | Traditional Hiragana | Reformed Hiragana | Hangeul | Romanization "perjury; alibi, especially if dubious; (military slang) cover story, pretext, what’s released to the public (especially if fabricated)" ———————— New word: [k...

[g] > [ɟ] before palatals:

[xø̀ː.ɟʎé]
偽 | へうりぇう | へーうぐりぇ | 허러 | heûglie
Kanji | Traditional Hiragana | Reformed Hiragana | Hangeul | Romanization
"perjury; alibi, especially if dubious; (military slang) cover story, pretext, what’s released to the public (especially if fabricated)"

[y] lowers to [ø] after [x]:

[xø̀w.ʎǿ]
偽 | へうりぇう | heowlyeo
"perjury; alibi, especially if dubious; (military slang) cover story, pretext, what’s released to the public (especially if fabricated)"

[ɺʲ] > [ʎ]

[çỳw.ʎǿ]
偽 | ひゅうりぇう | hyuwlyeo
"perjury; alibi, especially if dubious"

Schwa merges with [ø].

[çỳ.wǿɺʲǿ]
偽り | つわり | hyuweolyeo
"perjury; alibi, especially if dubious"

Pitch becomes low before heavy high-pitched syllables:

[çỳ.wǿɺʲ]
偽り | つわり | hyuweolh
"perjury; alibi, especially if dubious"

Travis B. wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2024 10:13 am People get sick of not having normal rounded vowels and semivowels.

I don't think people are so cognizant of sound changes when they happen, or trigger them intentionally.

i-mutation

[çý.wǿ.ɺʲì]
偽り | つわり | hyuweori
"lie, falsehood; (criminal slang) alibi, especially if dubious"

[a] > [oᵝ] after [ɰᵝ]

[çíᵝ.ɰᵝóᵝ.ɺʲì]
偽り | つわり | hyiwari
"lie, falsehood; (criminal slang) alibi, especially if dubious"

Loss of voiceless vowels:

[çɨ́ᵝ.ɰᵝá.ɺʲì]
偽り | つわり | hyiwari
"lie, falsehood"

I was always thinking we were meant to stay within the bounds of what could happen in a single shift or chain shift (i.e. disaffrication, replicating Grimm's Law or the Great Vowel Shift), where [ts] > [ɬ] feels like it's compounding two things, both lateralisation ([ts] > [tɬ]) and then disaffricat...

Travis B. wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2024 4:57 pm

foxcatdog wrote: ↑Sat May 11, 2024 11:05 pm *ts > *ɬ

[ɬɑ'ⁿʒo:]
tsanjô
"our language"

See this is what I mean by evil sound changes.

I think I'd more call it implausible, as presented, though I'm not personally fond of lateral fricatives.

[ɑ] > [ɔ]

[ɬɔ'ⁿʒo:]
llanjô
"our language"

Nasalisation transfers to the preceding consonant as prenasalisation:

[tsɑ'ⁿʒo:]
tsanjô
"our language"

[ɔ̃] > [õː]

[tsɑ'ɮõ:]
tsalǫ̂
"our language"

[i̯u] > [ɥi ['t͡ʃɥi.ko̯es] ciúcoes "( archaising, formerly to a woman of higher rank than oneself) Mrs., Ms.; ( of judges, justices ) your honour" [aː] > [æː] ['ʒæː.ʒo] giágià "( archaising ) madam, ma'am; ( in fantasy literature ) madam, lady, milady" [uː] > [ou] [ʃaː.ˈzou] sáso...

Diphthongs shift to rising [iw ɔj] > [i̯u o̯e]: ['t͡si̯u.ko̯es] ciúcoes "( archaising, formerly to a woman of higher rank than oneself ) Mrs., Ms.; ( of judges, justices ) your honour" Disaffrication ['ʒaː.ʒɒ] giágià "( archaising ) madam, ma'am; ( in fantasy literature ) madam, lady,...

[ɯː] > [ɯw] ['t͡sɯw.kɔjs] ciúcuois "( archaising, formerly to a woman of higher rank than oneself ) Mrs., Ms.; ( of judges, justices ) your honour" [ai] > [aː] ['d͡ʒaː.d͡ʒʷa] giágiua "( archaising ) madam, ma'am; ( in fantasy literature ) madam, lady, milady" Coda [z] > [j] [sej....

Let's see if I can puzzle things out: [ˈkʰʊː.ae̯.ˈɛːv.n̩ː.ˌɑ̃ː.ʁ̃ˤɯːp̚ˈpʰɑː.mʁ̩ˤː] Could I have an Arnold Palmer? [ˈtjɛːv.ˈɜ̃ːj.ˌae̯ˈdiː.əː.ˈwʌə̯m.ˈsʲpi.kɘ̃.ˌɪːʁˤ] Do you have any idea what I'm speaking here? It looks rather outlandish, but when I articulate it, I understand, and it isn't that diffe...

[p] > [kw] following velars and palatal stops ['cɯː.kwɔjs] ciúcuois "( to a woman of higher rank than oneself ) Mrs., Ms.; ( of judges, justices ) your honour" Fortition [j ɥ] > [ɟ ɟʷ] ['ɟɤɯ.ɟʷɔ] giúgiua "( archaising ) madam, ma'am; ( in fantasy literature ) madam, lady, milady"...

Depalatalisation with ejection of [j] into the coda: ['cyː.bɔjs] ciúwoys "( to a woman of higher rank than oneself ) Mrs., Ms.; ( of judges, justices ) your honour" [yː] > [jøy]: ['jøy.wɔ] iúcha "( archaising ) madam, ma'am; ( in fantasy literature ) madam, lady, milady" Disaffri...