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I didn't realize that "GOAL" varied so much. I'm not even sure we're talking about the same thing. "Holy" and "holey" are homophones for me, and "wholely" is probably a homophone most of the time, though it could have a geminate in careful speech. All of these...

Some Australians and New Zealanders (but not me) pronounce "known" as two syllables. I don't know if this applies to other past participles. Isn't that just a falling diphthong ending in a schwa that preceeds the "n"? JAL /oə̯/ is very much non-Australian. More a midlands sort o...

jal wrote: ↑Wed Apr 09, 2025 3:07 am

vlad wrote: ↑Tue Apr 08, 2025 10:15 pmSome Australians and New Zealanders (but not me) pronounce "known" as two syllables. I don't know if this applies to other past participles.

Isn't that just a falling diphthong ending in a schwa that preceeds the "n"?


JAL

No.

Some Australians and New Zealanders (but not me) pronounce "known" as two syllables. I don't know if this applies to other past participles.

How often do you call an animal "he" or "she" as opposed to "it"? I don't own any pets, and don't consider myself an "animal person", so I usually call an animal "it", but I've noticed that people who own pets and consider themselves an "animal...

Speaking of spelling pronunciations, how do you guys pronounce figure (the verb)? I am familiar with two pronunciations, /ˈfɪɡər/ and /ˈfɪɡjər/, and apparently the latter is a spelling pronunciation. I pronounce it without /j/ and for a long time I didn't know there was any other pronunciation. Doe...

Question: What vowel does everybody have in the words HANG, ANGLE, PINK, BAG, BEG, BIG, VAGUE, and CRAIG? and do you normally raise lax front vowels before /g/ and /N/ (voiced velars)? How far do you raise them? Do you raise them enough to merge with another phoneme? hang = /a/ [æ] (raised but stil...

[ˈdɪfəɡɫ̩t]

I've never heard of pączki.

I have /prə/ rather than /pə/ in perform, performance, etc.

But it's an isolated example. Similar words like perceive, percussion, permission, perplex, persist, persuade are unaffected.

Raphael wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2024 7:06 am Are there variants of British English that pronounce "v" as something closer to an "f"-like sound? (Sorry, I still haven't really gotten the hang of the IPA.)

Not to my knowledge.

I suspect these two would be Australian examples: Wollongong — /ˈwʊləŋɡɒŋ/ — /ˈwɒləŋɡɒŋ/ Waitara — /waiˈtɑːɹa/ — /wɛ͡iˈtɑːɹa/ But I’m not completely sure of either pronunciation here, neither for the locals nor for the non-locals. I have a suspicion that the ‘non-local’ pronunciations may simply be...

I ask because the regular outcome of intramorphemic historical /dr/ and in some cases /d/ + /r/ across morpheme boundaries (e.g. bedroom for me personally) is to merge with a hypothetical /dʒr/ I have an affricate for /d/ before /r/, but it's a distinct affricate from /dʒ/. E.g. bedroom is differen...

Many Mexican cities/towns have special political titles, usually derived from the names of presidents or soldiers. Some examples not derived from people's names include de la Independencia ("of Independence"), de los Libres ("of the Free"), del Progreso ("of Progress"),...

Supposedly labiodental affricates are "rare", and I have never seen them in an IPA chart, yet I am very familiar with them in English in words like o bv ious and a dv enture . (In both of those words for me there is neither bilabial nor coronal articulation in the bolded consonants.) From...

When people speak of "diphthongization of high long vowels" I always had thought of them as [ɪj] and [ʊw], i.e. only lightly diphthongized. (I only diphthongize mine when I have /uː/ after a coronal/palatal and before a dorsal, as [yu].) There's register-related alternation; careful [ɪi̯ ...

Kurwa is a song containing phrases in a bunch of different languages. Most of them are well-known phrases from widely-spoken languages. A couple of less-known ones are kil monda (Tatar) and oyboy (Kazakh). Rakamakafo is a garbled version of rock the microphone from "Freestyler". Does anyo...

Who rounds or doesn't round the vowel in gonna ? In the dialect here it is [ˈɡ̥ʌ̃ɾ̃ə(ː)] or even just [ɡ̥ʌ̃ː], but I have heard people on the radio with pronunciations with rounded (and closer) vowels such as [ˈɡ̥õ̞ɾ̃ə(ː)]. In Australia it's [ɔ] LOT. In the UK it seems to be [ʌ] STRUT (at least in ...

dɮ the phoneme wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2024 3:55 am What texts are these examples from specifically?

The ones in the first post are

https://archive.org/details/bibliotheca ... 7/mode/2up

https://archive.org/details/iohannissch ... 1/mode/2up

https://archive.org/details/manlypalmer ... 3/mode/2up

Glass Half Baked wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2024 7:51 pm

vlad wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2024 6:28 pm The only Tironian note I've ever seen used anywhere is ⁊.

Luckily, there is a solution to this problem here.

Go do it then.

What would make this better is if we could find one of these texts that also incorporates Tironian notes . The only Tironian note I've ever seen used anywhere is ⁊. Sure, it may be the only one in modern usage, and then pretty much just in Ireland and Scotland, but are we just considering documents...