Zompist Bboard Again

xxx wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2024 6:02 ambut in "conlangery",
how can we segment the flow of a language without real usage that wouldn't be based on natlangs...

And why should we not be allowed to base anything on natlangs? Your conlang uses the same script as several natlangs, however mutable it seems to be.

in writing, the spaces between words are enough to produce the self-segmentation of the language flow... Greek called...couldn't stop laughing long enough to leave a message. :) unless you import natural languages, it's hard to imagine how ambiguities can be avoided, I'm sorry - what?? Are you sayi...

xxx wrote: ↑Sat Jun 01, 2024 5:06 am 6) other :

I claim the right to use my conlang, in conscript,
but I can't limit myself to these means in my social interactions...

what does that have to do with dissolving?

Does anyone else have the impression that pool has a weird kind of cross-class appeal? That is, it seems to be stereotypically associated with both a certain kind of upper class person and a certain kind of working class person. OK, upper class pool players stereotypically own their own tables some...

I believe in the importance of minorities to build a majority, but I think it's fundamentally wrong to use minorities to dissolve a majority... Dissolve? could you please clarify what you mean there? is it... 1) accusing minorities of dilluting and weakening society like a normal Fifth Column? 2) s...

in 3SDeduciveLanguage(1Sense=1Sign=1Sound), there's no question of importing mouth sounds to name anything... translation is de rigueur, and the contemporary practice of names that mean nothing is out of the question... Ah...so, in that case, when we're talking to you, we can call you Triple Pirate...

Talskubilos wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2024 4:11 am

keenir wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2024 3:10 amo-kay...and can you provide a title and-or a link so i can find said list?
thank you

I've uploaded a copy of the book here.

Thank you for that. This will help.

isn't distribution a part of how we determine which branches are which? (such as satem itself - thats not found in all the IE languages from the Canaries to Sri Lanka either) I'd suggest you read Mallory & Adams own list of "NW IE" words. o-kay...and can you provide a title and-or a l...

Now we’re starting to get somewhere. Next question: why do you believe that *abVl- is not a native PIE word? Mainly because: 1) it has a limited distribution, only found in a few branches. isn't distribution a part of how we determine which branches are which? (such as satem itself - thats not foun...

1. A protolang mixing Proto-Indo-European with Proto - Taqva-miir . 2. An idea that would mix Proto-Thirean with Proto-Sino-Tibetan ( whichever reconstruction would most suffice ). 3. A mix of Basque with Ilothwii . 4. A protolang that mixes Proto-Oqolaawak with either Proto-Kra-Dai or Proto-Hmong-...

I preferred the use of translation, but with globalization it would require organizations to set prescriptive standards, I can't say I've ever seen anyone call the IPA an organization. :) The International Phonetic Association isn’t an organisation? (They being the ones who maintain the Internation...

globalization, including of information, has reduced the need for systematic translation, which was once the norm... the problem with this new usage is that these words add a layer of complexity *gasp* oh no...so now if I want to eat beef, and I ask for cow ... wait. :) (sorry) if you want to prono...

Maybe emulate Yiddish, with only one conjunction word, which I think was ne. ... This is just rubbish. Wiktionary, for one thing, lists no less than 39 Yiddish conjunctions . Yiddish is not that grammatically distant from any of the various other German languages! Well, the principle of one conjunc...

The goal is to avoid recreating ALL the English conjunction words and their specific distinctions (e.g. but vs yet) Maybe emulate Yiddish, with only one conjunction word, which I think was ne. ... I am smart ne Einstein was too. I am smart ne you are smarter. I am smart ne rocks are heavy. etc.

the important question is, under this definition, will there one day be no native Caizu speakers? ah, okay; I had been thinking liturgical languages had native speakers, in the sense of their own population(s) of people growing up hearing and learning and speaking it. (as opposed to modern people s...

PS: more importantly, I agree that it would be more interesting (than continuing this side discussino) to see more of Caizu and its neighbors. and comparisons to Latin just reinforced that, as I knew it was a liturgical language, but I also knew that, in most books that were written in Europe had at...

Firstly, ‘split-ergative’ is a dreadfully imprecise term covering many different alignment systems. Secondly, there’s also the direct–inverse subsystem to consider. imprecise to people who spend all day splitting hairs. For me and possibly lay people, the term is enough to convey "syntactic or...

and comparisons to Latin just reinforced that, as I knew it was a liturgical language, but I also knew that, in most books that were written in Europe had at the very least their titles in Latin. But Latin still had to be learned, often together with reading. okay, but thats true of any language th...

Coptic has not had native-speaker transmission for multiple hundred years now, so while they may technically be speaking it, that statement needs qualification. what?? then how did some of the French and English people who used spoken Coptic to help them decipher the Rosetta Stone, learn a language...

the Copts would be shocked to hear that they are speaking a nonexisting language. Coptic has not had native-speaker transmission for multiple hundred years now, so while they may technically be speaking it, that statement needs qualification. what?? then how did some of the French and English peopl...