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by bradrn
Sun Jun 02, 2024 6:17 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel
Replies: 968
Views: 1086860

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel

The usual explanation is that it's a fully phonological process where a final -s on one word in a clause like *wĺ̥kʷoms péḱyonti "they are looking at the wolves" bleeds over to the start of the following word ( *wĺ̥kʷoms spéḱyonti ). It looks uncovincing to me. Opinions hold zero argument...
by bradrn
Sat Jun 01, 2024 3:30 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Triscriptal alchemical German
Replies: 5
Views: 199

Re: Triscriptal alchemical German

Fascinating find!
vlad wrote: Fri May 31, 2024 1:09 am German words are written in Kurrent, while Latin words are written in roman (not sure if that's the correct name)
Roman script is upright and unjoined. I’d call it a variant of italic script, I think.
by bradrn
Sat Jun 01, 2024 12:19 pm
Forum: Ephemera
Topic: The New ZBB Quote Thread
Replies: 324
Views: 341583

Re: The New ZBB Quote Thread

TomHChappell wrote: Sat Jun 01, 2024 12:11 pm
“with a straight face, Youtuber Sabine Hossenfelder said” wrote: I’m not autistic; I’m just rude!
Or maybe German.
(But I repeat myself.)
I believe this thread is reserved for quotes made by people on this board.
by bradrn
Sat Jun 01, 2024 4:19 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: bradrn’s scratchpad
Replies: 124
Views: 81322

Re: bradrn’s scratchpad

Man in Space wrote: Fri May 31, 2024 9:25 pm Can maʔ--to be used for abstract nouns or is it more strictly for concrete objects/persons?
It simply means ‘one which verbs’ / ‘one which is verbed’. So it’s usually concrete, but with the right verb it could be more abstract.
by bradrn
Fri May 31, 2024 7:20 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: bradrn’s scratchpad
Replies: 124
Views: 81322

Re: bradrn’s scratchpad

Nominalisations, participles and passives This is a rather small part of the verbal system, but an important one. This is mostly due to derivation: Eŋes makes very extensive use of nominalisations and participles for word-formation. Even quite basic vocabulary can be derived via nominalisation, as ...
by bradrn
Fri May 31, 2024 2:31 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Pronunciation of Standard English in America (1919)
Replies: 144
Views: 334767

Re: Pronunciation of Standard English in America (1919)

Yep, Wiktionary agrees with my last suggestion: /tɹeɪ/ is ‘traditional British pronunciation, now virtually obsolete’.
by bradrn
Fri May 31, 2024 2:30 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Pronunciation of Standard English in America (1919)
Replies: 144
Views: 334767

Re: Pronunciation of Standard English in America (1919)

i'm confused about what people are saying about "trait" and it sounds like others are too. the book says trait is pronounced /treːt/ in the u.s. and /treː ~ treɪ/ in the uk. i'm an american and in my entire time on god's green earth i have never once heard it pronounced without a final /t...
by bradrn
Fri May 31, 2024 4:54 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Pronunciation of Standard English in America (1919)
Replies: 144
Views: 334767

Re: Pronunciation of Standard English in America (1919)

he transcribes the first vowel in aqueduct as [æ] [æ]quaman (1967) [ɑ]quaman (1973) (also [sju]perman at one point) I’ve always pronounced it with /æ/, but it’s probably a spelling pronunciation. trait has a silent final t in british english ...does it not in American? I’m surprised that it does in...
by bradrn
Thu May 30, 2024 4:35 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Names, nouns and their (phonological) restrictions
Replies: 49
Views: 1125

Re: Names, nouns and their (phonological) restrictions

In France, the all-powerful registrars only tolerated national celebrity or calendar names... until the births resulting from immigration family reunification made this untenable, with the influx of ex-colonised people into the beloved bosom of their ex-colonizers... They say getting the registrars...
by bradrn
Thu May 30, 2024 7:49 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel
Replies: 968
Views: 1086860

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel

I disagree; s-mobile appears before consonants, which isn't the case. *h₃ekʷ- , *h₃negʰ- and *h₂eḱru all begin with laryngeals, which last I checked are generally considered to be consonants. (I am aware of the arguments for vocalic allophones; it seems a little odd to me that a language would be c...
by bradrn
Thu May 30, 2024 4:46 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel
Replies: 968
Views: 1086860

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel

I say Wanderwort when I mean it. ;) Apparently not, since you just used it to describe a word loaned the incredible distance... across the Mediterranean. This is the precisely why I call it a Wanderwort . :D I think you may have missed the considerable sarcasm in Ketsuban’s post. ‘Loanword across t...
by bradrn
Wed May 29, 2024 4:16 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel
Replies: 968
Views: 1086860

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel

I’m sorry, but I’m afraid this isn’t an ‘explanation’: it’s merely a vagueness. Even if I assume that many IE words are Wanderwörter , you’ve still given me no reason to believe that the specific word *meh₂l- is a Wanderwort itself. Given the strong evidence for its antiquity in Fenwick’s paper, wh...
by bradrn
Wed May 29, 2024 3:37 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel
Replies: 968
Views: 1086860

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel

My point is although these words are more or less distantly related, they can't be derived from a single PIE protoform. I'm affraid Fenwick and other scholars deceive themselves. :( And yet, you’re yet to give us any actual reasons why you think this… OK, I owe you an explanation. From my own resea...
by bradrn
Wed May 29, 2024 1:25 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel
Replies: 968
Views: 1086860

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel

But I have the impression that Talksubilos hasn't grasped that the inconvenience of the fact is an important facet of the semantics of afraid . But then I am not a native English speaker and may be wrong ;) What I get out of Talskubilos's use of the word afraid is that they are insisting that they ...
by bradrn
Wed May 29, 2024 1:14 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel
Replies: 968
Views: 1086860

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel

Yes, Talskubilos is the very same person as Octavià. And his misspelling and his misuse of the word afraid is a trademark of his. I don't think he always fears that this or that is true when he says he was 'affraid', rather that he thinks that way. Actually, to me it reads as perfectly good English...
by bradrn
Wed May 29, 2024 12:54 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel
Replies: 968
Views: 1086860

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel

Talskubilos, are you related to Octavia? (They posted on a similar topic about 5 years ago.) As I recall, Talskubilos is Octavia, under a different name. Yes, Talskubilos is the very same person as Octavià. And his misspelling and his misuse of the word afraid is a trademark of his. I don't think h...
by bradrn
Wed May 29, 2024 12:20 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel
Replies: 968
Views: 1086860

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel

My point is although these words are more or less distantly related, they can't be derived from a single PIE protoform. I'm affraid Fenwick and other scholars deceive themselves. :( Talskubilos, are you related to Octavia? (They posted on a similar topic about 5 years ago.) As I recall, Talskubilos...
by bradrn
Wed May 29, 2024 11:58 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel
Replies: 968
Views: 1086860

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel

My point is although these words are more or less distantly related, they can't be derived from a single PIE protoform. I'm affraid Fenwick and other scholars deceive themselves. :( And yet, you’re yet to give us any actual reasons why you think this… (As they say, ‘what is presented without eviden...
by bradrn
Wed May 29, 2024 2:34 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel
Replies: 968
Views: 1086860

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel

The discussion following the post you quoted includes links to a pair of papers by Rhona Fenwick which I think adequately address the entire topic without any need to posit a Wanderwort. The Anatolian terms are just the result of s-mobile; the irregular metathesis from *meh₂l- to *h₂eml- (> *h₂ebl-...
by bradrn
Wed May 29, 2024 2:31 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conlang Random Thread
Replies: 3051
Views: 2869494

Re: Conlang Random Thread

Always they look good in some combinations and ugly in others. And it's hard to make them look good while following my constraints, such as always having penultimate stress on the verb. Same here more or less. One of the big challenges in my polysynthetic conlang is getting the inflectional suffixe...