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by bradrn
Thu May 16, 2024 7:03 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conlang fluency thread
Replies: 2445
Views: 1482006

Re: Conlang fluency thread

I wasn't familiar yet with the "seven kill stele", surprised or not. Also it seems it's fake. Qhamaniziye sigaa mut'a. bore-APSS-AGT.3.S.INAN-PRES stele-ERG real-ERG The real stele is boring. Stili butomawoʔŋ aŋ! (…nos na mec 1934 iŋasanlismemŋun oŋo mbuliselbuʔ?) [sti.li.bu.to.maˈwoʔŋ.aŋ...
by bradrn
Thu May 16, 2024 5:56 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Reverse Rominazation Challenge Thread, v2.0
Replies: 124
Views: 66378

Re: Reverse Rominazation Challenge Thread, v2.0

⟨a e i o u⟩ /a e i o u/ ⟨aa ee ii oo uu⟩ /aː eː iː oː uː/ ⟨m n⟩ /m n/ ⟨t c k q⟩ /t t͡ʃ k q/ ⟨th ch kh qh⟩ /tʰ t͡ʃʰ kʰ qʰ/ ⟨t' c' k' q'⟩ /tʼ t͡ʃʼ kʼ qʼ/ ⟨b d j g⟩ /b d d͡ʒ ɡ/ ⟨b' d'⟩ /ɓ ɗ/ ⟨f s z x h⟩ /f s z x h/ ⟨w l y r⟩ /w l j r/ (I did see this language a couple of days ago, so I’ve tried to avoi...
by bradrn
Wed May 15, 2024 5:03 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conlang Random Thread
Replies: 2989
Views: 2850443

Re: Conlang Random Thread

Travis B. wrote: Wed May 15, 2024 4:55 pm I wasn't accusing you of anything! I was agreeing with you!
Ah, thanks for clarifying!
by bradrn
Wed May 15, 2024 4:46 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conlang Random Thread
Replies: 2989
Views: 2850443

Re: Conlang Random Thread

I am personally of the view that resorting to logic and theory to justify how languages act, and questioning if something attested in a given language is possible when it does not correspond to said logic and theory, is probably not the greatest of ideas. What's that in referrence to? If you define...
by bradrn
Wed May 15, 2024 12:48 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: English questions
Replies: 1406
Views: 448290

Re: English questions

I think it's a generalisation of 'I could have done that', which doesn't really make a lot of sense when one analyses it. This particular construction does make sense to me. You just need to notice that English modals don’t really have past tense forms — so if you want to place a modal in the past,...
by bradrn
Wed May 15, 2024 9:18 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conlang fluency thread
Replies: 2445
Views: 1482006

Re: Conlang fluency thread

Yu kip way Ingles sentms. You omitted the English sentence. At leuthes oʒsa atsʒen harthle bedruiccet, cens thasʒen aull ret? It also sounds rather depressing, are you feeling okay? :? Stili anwase we ni towraŋwgiŋ. (Nortaneous sof Hallow XIII ner rŋay ntaŋwarwoŋsesi.) [stiˈli.an.wa.se.we.ni tow.ra...
by bradrn
Wed May 15, 2024 7:28 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: English questions
Replies: 1406
Views: 448290

Re: English questions

"If I had had that cake, it wouldn't've gone mouldy" definitely works for me. This is just standard English, surely? So does "If I had've known, I wouldn't've eaten the cake" (only informally though). Combining those to make 4 only makes it a bit weirder. Maybe the key then is t...
by bradrn
Wed May 15, 2024 6:36 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: English questions
Replies: 1406
Views: 448290

Re: English questions

I think it's a generalisation of 'I could have done that', which doesn't really make a lot of sense when one analyses it. This particular construction does make sense to me. You just need to notice that English modals don’t really have past tense forms — so if you want to place a modal in the past,...
by bradrn
Wed May 15, 2024 6:33 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: English questions
Replies: 1406
Views: 448290

Re: English questions

But, on the other hand, the presence of -n’t seems to be key here: 3. ?? If I had not have had that cake, it would’ve gone mouldy. 4. * If I had have had that cake, it would’ve gone mouldy. Honestly 4 kinda works for me. Interesting… for me it’s completely ungrammatical, no uncertainty about it.
by bradrn
Wed May 15, 2024 4:39 am
Forum: Ephemera
Topic: War in the Middle East, again
Replies: 453
Views: 74827

Re: War in the Middle East, again

The idea is that given the situation, there's no place for anything but no holds barred condemnation of Israel and that nothing else will do in stopping Israel from doing what it's doing in Gaza, through pressure from world governments or pressure from world opinion or both. I could go on at some l...
by bradrn
Wed May 15, 2024 4:18 am
Forum: Ephemera
Topic: War in the Middle East, again
Replies: 453
Views: 74827

Re: War in the Middle East, again

Ares Land wrote: Wed May 15, 2024 3:47 am I didn't really see your point or Torco's and it's now much clearer.
Could you perhaps explain it to me, then? I still don’t really see how any of what they’re saying makes much sense.
by bradrn
Tue May 14, 2024 3:51 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: A scratchpad
Replies: 16
Views: 167

Re: A scratchpad

Was this by any chance inspired by the conversation with Ahzoh over on the Conlang Random Thread?
by bradrn
Tue May 14, 2024 3:49 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conlang Random Thread
Replies: 2989
Views: 2850443

Re: Conlang Random Thread

Yeah, so its single function is ‘object marking’. And similarly the single function of your nominative and ergative cases are ‘subject marking’. It just so happens that an intransitive argument can align as either ‘subject’ or ‘object’, depending on animacy. That is, what you have here is a split-i...
by bradrn
Tue May 14, 2024 3:42 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: English questions
Replies: 1406
Views: 448290

Re: English questions

Here’s a really interesting English sentence I was presented with recently: 1. If I hadn’t’ve had that cake, it would’ve gone mouldy. Neat find, and your initial syntactic analysis is good work. Not actually my find — it was someone else on Discord who presented me with it. Most of the syntactic an...
by bradrn
Tue May 14, 2024 12:05 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: English questions
Replies: 1406
Views: 448290

Re: English questions

This seems to actually be an area where my own dialect is syntactically distinct from Standard English, as when approximating Standard English I would never say anything resembling either version of mine, but rather would say: I would have never gotten my system cryptolocked if I had not downloaded...
by bradrn
Tue May 14, 2024 10:58 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: English questions
Replies: 1406
Views: 448290

Re: English questions

Other fun in this sort of department are things like: I'd've never've gotten my box cryptolocked if I hadn't've downloaded that "antivirus" program from that site. To me, this feels almost like aspectual agreement! It doesn’t work in my dialect, though: it feels very much like a feature o...
by bradrn
Tue May 14, 2024 8:58 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: English questions
Replies: 1406
Views: 448290

Re: English questions

As far as syntax goes, I remember reading that some linguists have proposed that the stigmatized use of "of" spellings in contexts like "You shouldn't of had that cake" represents an actual reinterpretation of the word, where it no longer functions synchronically as a reduced pr...
by bradrn
Tue May 14, 2024 8:54 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conlang Random Thread
Replies: 2989
Views: 2850443

Re: Conlang Random Thread

What? VSO is equally as head-initial as VOS, just that the object in VSO is decoupled from the verb. You are correct here. VSO and VOS are equally ‘head-initial’. I disagree, though I may well be in disagreement with current linguistic theory. In my opinion, verb + object = predicate, and a predica...
by bradrn
Tue May 14, 2024 6:51 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: English questions
Replies: 1406
Views: 448290

Re: English questions

Here’s a really interesting English sentence I was presented with recently: 1. If I hadn’t’ve had that cake, it would’ve gone mouldy. This flagrantly disobeys the English prohibition on modal stacking… but yet, it still seems acceptable to me (at least colloquially). Others seem to agree that it’s a...
by bradrn
Tue May 14, 2024 6:28 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4688
Views: 2062267

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

When Lithuanians sort lists in Lithuanian alphabetically, do they use the same order as dictionaries? I ask because I've seen evidence that some at least consider 'e' and 'ė' as as different as 's' and 'š' (definitely different letters when the brain is engaged), while happily disregarding ogoneks ...