Zompist Bboard Again

Problem is, I haven't found a word generator I've been fully satisfied with using. Mostly because I haven't been able to get any to properly fit these constraints: "first and second radicals must not be identical in POA" "second and third radicals must not be non-identical in voicing...

First attempt at translating something (The King and the God) into the on-off reworking / project of the last few months: Native orthography Piru ngikur, kuodeûh nguod. Tzin ritzmi thuthuga na kuodeûh. Tzetzuk na ngeata kuoduar thedmek. Dit 'uq mab thi hiunge naûg: "Tzeb sin thopalh leada!'' Du...

Fed some conlangs to ChatGPT and asked it to analyse them. It was eerily correct. I fed it a sample of something recent (a translation of The King and the God)... it did guess it was a conlang without me even asking, but its analysis of the grammar was quite wrong. I'm not sure if it misunderstood ...

bradrn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 6:25 pm

chris_notts wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 1:04 pm Coastal Marind is Papuan but not closely related to Yimas as far as I know, so it may be an areal feature?

I doubt it — Marind is in the south, Yimas is in the northeast. There’s a big mountain range between the two.

Oops! Still odd that the two cases I know of are both Papuan though.

https://chrisintheweeds.com/2024/01/24/non-recursive-nps/ "In any case, one interesting thing about Yimas is that it has two kinds of noun phrase structure, a tightly integrated but non-recursive structure, and a much looser, more appositional structure." I just noticed that my Coastal Ma...

https://chrisintheweeds.com/2024/01/24/non-recursive-nps/ "In any case, one interesting thing about Yimas is that it has two kinds of noun phrase structure, a tightly integrated but non-recursive structure, and a much looser, more appositional structure." Interesting, thanks! I must have ...

https://chrisintheweeds.com/2024/01/24/ ... rsive-nps/

"In any case, one interesting thing about Yimas is that it has two kinds of noun phrase structure, a tightly integrated but non-recursive structure, and a much looser, more appositional structure."

It looks like you chose to write the preverb and the following verb as one - was that specifically to reflect the pronunciation differences due to boundary effects in the orthography? Wordhood is a little bit hard to define for this language. I might write something more about it later. (Or you cou...

Bradrn posting about this triggered me to post about an orthographic dilemma I've been pondering. I won’t be focussing much on phonology here, but it is worth noting that the preverb as a unit is somewhat distinct from the verb complex proper. For instance, hiatus avoidance does not apply at the end...

I won’t be focussing much on phonology here, but it is worth noting that the preverb as a unit is somewhat distinct from the verb complex proper. For instance, hiatus avoidance does not apply at the end of a preverb: e.g. to-asan ‘it fell’. Similarly, when they contain more than a single subject ma...

Here's a PDF by the same guy (although not the same paper) where the numbers look a bit dubious:

https://core.ac.uk/reader/230317740

But even though I had my doubts, I thought it was interesting partly because I can also see how the proposed mechanism is vaguely plausible (preferences for location of sentence or phrasal stress correlating with word level structures), and because my current conlanging project has both initial stre...

How many languages is he considering, and how strict is his definition of initial and final stress? WALS gives stress data for 502 languages, of which just 143 (28%) have stress on the first or last syllable. That strikes me as a pretty low N. If just moving the "Altaic" languages around ...

I've just been flicking through "The Study of Stress and Word Accent", and there's a chapter that makes the claim that stress location and branching order is correlated. The initial data they have seems to suggest a weakish but statistically significant correlation, but Tokizaki argues tha...

At least in German the standard analysis of these cases in most frameworks of theoretical phonology seems to be that these consonants are ambisyllabic, i.e. they belong to both syllables. I find this baffling; it sounds much easuer to give up on the fictional closed syllable restriction on lax vowe...

I'm recreating the vocabulary for Qummin as part of the reworking, and starting a spreadsheet dictionary that I'll probably eventually convert to LaTeX with a custom Python script. The issue is that given that Qummin has productive interacting vowel deletion and consonant assimilation processes, I n...

I've ported over the TAM semantics chapter from the older Ch'ubmin grammar with basically no changes apart from reworking the examples and any morpheme references to match the new shapes. I still haven't reinvented many words/morphemes yet, beyond the verbal inflections... the trickiest part is gett...

One thing I've realised with this is that the syncope rules definitely drive which suffix shapes work. There are four relevant rules here: 1. Hiatus is mostly resolved by deletion of V1 (with some complexities when V1 is long) 2. Syncope deletes alternating light syllables (light = open, short vowel...

I renamed the thread because I've been doing a substantial reworking of what I did before, and I don't want to keep creating new threads. The focus has mostly been on a reworked phonology, because I got to a point where the only decisions didn't seem to be quite working for what I was trying to achi...

I'm not mad, really. I'm not gonna make claims that "I'll never watch again!", or any dramatic bullshit like that, but I'm overall very disappointed. SNW was, until today, reason enough to hope that Trek was on an upward trajectory that I would be excited to watch and enjoy. After DIS and...