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by Hyolobrika
Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:52 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Shortest words for complex concepts
Replies: 51
Views: 46904

Re: Shortest words for complex concepts

Shed: the place where two sets of warp threads are held away from each other so that the weft can be passed between them in weaving. Fell: Where the completed cloth turns into warp threads--not the same as the shed, because the fell always exists but the shed doesn't have to. Are those complex or j...
by Hyolobrika
Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:40 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Shortest words for complex concepts
Replies: 51
Views: 46904

Re: Shortest words for complex concepts

What is a complex concept though?
What makes a concept complex (or simple)?
by Hyolobrika
Fri Mar 22, 2019 9:52 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: "Pro re nata"
Replies: 1
Views: 3478

"Pro re nata"

It literally means "for the thing born" and is used to describe medication that is taken as and when required, apparently using 'born' to describe something new.
Are there any other phrases in any other language that you know of that use this metaphor/logic?
by Hyolobrika
Sat Mar 16, 2019 3:17 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: A monosyllable equivalent to 'once' can be repeated to express rhythm
Replies: 2
Views: 3942

Re: A monosyllable equivalent to 'once' can be repeated to express rhythm

Like "da" used to vocalise rhythms in English? Shave and a haircut goes: "DA da da DA da, da da". Yep, that's right except in (my) English you have to put "like this" plus a pause in front. I must have been inspired by that without knowing it (or with?), a bit like cry...
by Hyolobrika
Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:24 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Longevity
Replies: 7
Views: 5462

Re: Longevity

The Kwehnu, who return as zombies, count their lifespans as being from birth to complete decay--and as their lifespans as zombies are exactly equal to their lifespans as humans, this led to some of them reaching the ripe old age of 160 local years before the introduction of modern medicine (which p...
by Hyolobrika
Thu Mar 07, 2019 9:25 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Nomophobia for fear of lack of cell phone access.
Replies: 23
Views: 16564

Re: Nomophobia for fear of lack of cell phone access.

Just "no mobile phobia" or "no cell phobia" without bothering to borrow a Greek root is not too long, I think.
by Hyolobrika
Mon Mar 04, 2019 4:18 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: A monosyllable equivalent to 'once' can be repeated to express rhythm
Replies: 2
Views: 3942

A monosyllable equivalent to 'once' can be repeated to express rhythm

For example, "The password is to knock once-once, once-once". That would describe a particular way of knocking 4 times.
by Hyolobrika
Mon Mar 04, 2019 4:14 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Pragmatics idea: overly generic answer as a substitute for "I don't know"
Replies: 5
Views: 6864

Pragmatics idea: overly generic answer as a substitute for "I don't know"

For example: (Walking in woods or something) A: ~"What did these feathers come from do you think?" B: ~"Bird" ("I dunno") A: ~"Yes" ("I don't know either") This sounds awkward in English but in a conlang it obviously can sound however the creator wan...
by Hyolobrika
Tue Feb 26, 2019 5:38 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Apposition with nouns such as 'agent', 'patient' etc could replace case morphology
Replies: 40
Views: 22115

Re: Apposition with nouns such as 'agent', 'patient' etc could replace case morphology

Am I missing something, or are you just reinventing active-stative languages ? So it is essentially "fluid-s" with overt marking on all argument values? I suppose so but the new part is how the 'cases' are formed. Also, since any noun can be used in that way, such roles can be invented on...
by Hyolobrika
Thu Feb 21, 2019 4:45 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Apposition with nouns such as 'agent', 'patient' etc could replace case morphology
Replies: 40
Views: 22115

Re: Apposition with nouns such as 'agent', 'patient' etc could replace case morphology

Salmoneus wrote: Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:44 am This isn't "replacing case morphology", it's just "making the nominative case homophonous with the word 'agent'".
That's just another way of phrasing or looking at the same thing.
by Hyolobrika
Thu Feb 21, 2019 4:43 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Apposition with nouns such as 'agent', 'patient' etc could replace case morphology
Replies: 40
Views: 22115

Re: Apposition with nouns such as 'agent', 'patient' etc could replace case morphology

So if I understand correctly, this idea would be something like “Franklin the agent kissed Thomas the patient.” Assuming your language has tidy terms for “agent” and “patient,” you’re just describing their grammatical role like stage directions. If these are indeed acting as ersatz noun cases, then...
by Hyolobrika
Thu Feb 21, 2019 4:42 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Apposition with nouns such as 'agent', 'patient' etc could replace case morphology
Replies: 40
Views: 22115

Re: Apposition with nouns such as 'agent', 'patient' etc could replace case morphology

Natural languages tend to minimise the amount of phonologically overt material they use for this sort of thing, so I wouldn't want to use this idea in a realistic conlang (of course, non-realistic conlangs are fine too). Even you got rid of the "numbering", which is redundant if you mark ...
by Hyolobrika
Mon Feb 18, 2019 4:50 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Apposition with nouns such as 'agent', 'patient' etc could replace case morphology
Replies: 40
Views: 22115

Apposition with nouns such as 'agent', 'patient' etc could replace case morphology

Both nouns would be inflected with the same numbered apposition inflection, which can be expressed in the gloss as "APP<n>". For example, Apposition of any noun and the word for 'agent/doer' replaces the ergative case and it might be expressed in the gloss as "<noun>-APP1 one.who.does...
by Hyolobrika
Sat Jan 26, 2019 10:21 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conworld idea: no clean break between language and almost-language
Replies: 35
Views: 12365

Re: Conworld idea: no clean break between language and almost-language

It doesn't mean them in some strict sense of 'meaning', but it can map to them:
A pheremone that increases attraction can map to "I love you", "I like you" or some varietion thereof.
Some pheremone that happens in response to injury can map to "Ow!".
Et cerera.
by Hyolobrika
Sat Jan 26, 2019 9:42 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conworld idea: no clean break between language and almost-language
Replies: 35
Views: 12365

Re: Conworld idea: no clean break between language and almost-language

So how can you eliminate the difference between voluntary (conscious) and involuntary (unconscious) behaviour, if both are necessary? I was talking about eliminating the difference in expression . So, instead of evolving a different lexicon for conscious signalling versus certain kinds of unconscio...
by Hyolobrika
Sat Jan 26, 2019 9:29 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conworld idea: no clean break between language and almost-language
Replies: 35
Views: 12365

Re: Conworld idea: no clean break between language and almost-language

but there is no "lexicon" of the subconscious it isn't true language, and it is impossible for there to be one because language is based on the way a conscious mind thinks. The way a conscious mind thinks evolved in the real world from the way the subconscious thinks. According to the cur...
by Hyolobrika
Sat Jan 26, 2019 9:20 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conworld idea: no clean break between language and almost-language
Replies: 35
Views: 12365

Re: Conworld idea: no clean break between language and almost-language

If it's too difficult to evolve in a particular way, then a species will make do. If my understanding of evolution is correct, it seeks the local maxima not the global (It was ages ago that I watched this video but I'm fairly sure it will explain what I mean.)
by Hyolobrika
Sat Jan 26, 2019 9:08 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conworld idea: no clean break between language and almost-language
Replies: 35
Views: 12365

Re: Conworld idea: no clean break between language and almost-language

I'm not sure how this differs from the real world? Most humans, for instance, are in very little doubt about what a dog seems to be saying at any given moment... We still in the real world have a difference between pheromone communication and verbal communication. Yes, some animals have some senses...