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- Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:24 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Alveolar Non-sibilant and Tapped Fricatives
- Replies: 3
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Re: Alveolar Non-sibilant and Tapped Fricatives
The exact POA is hard to tell from these clips, but they're very clearly apical fricatives. The laminal equivalents (as used in Icelandic) are much more similar to usual dental [θ ð]. The notion of "tapped fricative" is new to me and, frankly, sounds nonsensical. The voiced example here s...
- Sat Sep 14, 2019 7:07 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Great Skjajræ [ˈɕcɐ.ɾʲæ] Empire Conlang Scratchpad (currently, Skjajræfæ [ɕcɐˈɾʲæ.fʲæ])
- Replies: 50
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Re: Great Skjajræ [ˈɕcɐ.ɾʲæ] Empire Conlang Scratchpad (currently, Skjajræfæ [ɕcɐˈɾʲæ.fʲæ])
None of these seems too plausible to me except {ʃ,ç}→/ɕ/. Why? Well, /ʃ/ and /ç/ are both palatal sounds, so I can’t imagine them merging to a non-palatal sound. (I could be wrong though; maybe better ask in the Sound Change Quickie Thread .) Actually, I think {ʃ,ç}→/ʂ/ is realistic too. You just h...
- Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:50 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Great Skjajræ [ˈɕcɐ.ɾʲæ] Empire Conlang Scratchpad (currently, Skjajræfæ [ɕcɐˈɾʲæ.fʲæ])
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Re: Great Skjajræ [ˈɕcɐ.ɾʲæ] Empire Conlang Scratchpad (currently, Skjajræfæ [ɕcɐˈɾʲæ.fʲæ])
I have a great idea of how Proto-Skaran's looks. But, I have one more question before finalizing it. Is {ʃ ç} merging to one of [ʂ], [ɕ], [ɹ̠̊˔], or [ɻ̊˔] plausible? If not, I'm just merging [ʃ → ç].
- Mon Sep 09, 2019 11:03 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Alveolar Non-sibilant and Tapped Fricatives
- Replies: 3
- Views: 5762
- Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:06 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Great Skjajræ [ˈɕcɐ.ɾʲæ] Empire Conlang Scratchpad (currently, Skjajræfæ [ɕcɐˈɾʲæ.fʲæ])
- Replies: 50
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Re: Great Skjajræ [ˈɕcɐ.ɾʲæ] Empire Conlang Scratchpad (currently, Skjajræfæ [ɕcɐˈɾʲæ.fʲæ])
I just thought of having articularily-adjacent voiceless fricatives/affricates alternate (cf. [f~θ]) in the protolanguage. I'm aware that Hawaiian does a restricted version of something like this with its /k/ being [k] initially but [t] elsewhere. Do any natlangs to something closer to my idea?
- Sun Sep 08, 2019 2:53 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: kårroť scratchpad (necroes still welcome)
- Replies: 83
- Views: 89389
- Sun Sep 08, 2019 12:39 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Great Skjajræ [ˈɕcɐ.ɾʲæ] Empire Conlang Scratchpad (currently, Skjajræfæ [ɕcɐˈɾʲæ.fʲæ])
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Re: Great Skjajræ [ˈɕcɐ.ɾʲæ] Empire Conlang Scratchpad (currently, Skjajræfæ [ɕcɐˈɾʲæ.fʲæ])
Change of plans: rather than just throwing stuff at the wall, I'm gonna work from some combination of the ancient Common and Baikal phonologies. The orthographies below are, simply, computer-friendly, which means I designed my own conscripts a while back. However, I'm not sure if I still have them o...
- Sat Sep 07, 2019 10:53 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Great Skjajræ [ˈɕcɐ.ɾʲæ] Empire Conlang Scratchpad (currently, Skjajræfæ [ɕcɐˈɾʲæ.fʲæ])
- Replies: 50
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Re: Great Skjajræ [ˈɕcɐ.ɾʲæ] Empire Conlang Scratchpad (currently, Skjajræfæ [ɕcɐˈɾʲæ.fʲæ])
Skjajræfæ's [ɕcɑ̽ˈɾʲæ.fʲæ] new phonology. Consonants N1, 3 Bilabial Labiodental Alveolar Retroflex Alveolo-palatal Palatal Velar Pharyngeal Glottal Nasal m <m> N <n> ɲ <n> N <n> Plosive p b <p, b> T <t> c ɟ <k, g> k g <k, g> Fricative F <f> C <c> C <c> ç <x> x <x> ħ <ċ> h <ċ> Affricate T <t> Approxi...
- Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:54 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Great Skjajræ [ˈɕcɐ.ɾʲæ] Empire Conlang Scratchpad (currently, Skjajræfæ [ɕcɐˈɾʲæ.fʲæ])
- Replies: 50
- Views: 33757
- Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:07 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Great Skjajræ [ˈɕcɐ.ɾʲæ] Empire Conlang Scratchpad (currently, Skjajræfæ [ɕcɐˈɾʲæ.fʲæ])
- Replies: 50
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Re: Great Ăzlzyky [æ.ə̯ɬ̪ˠə̯y.cy] Empire Conlang Scratchpad (currently, Ăzlzykyfă [æ.ə̯ɬ̪ˠə̯y.cy.fʲæ])
Ăjljykyfă’s [æ.ɿɬ̪ˠɿy.cy.fʲæ] new phonology. Consonants N1, 3, 4 Bilabial Labiodental Alveolar Palato-alveolar Palatal Velar Pharyngeal Glottal Nasal m <ṁ, m> ɲ <ṅ, n> ŋ <ṅ, n> Plosive p b <p, b> t d <t, d> c ɟ <k, g> k g <k, g> Fricative f <f> s <s> s z <ṫ, ḋ> ʃ ʒ <s, ḋ> ç ʝ <x, ġ> x ɣ <x, ġ> ħ <ṡ>...
- Mon Aug 26, 2019 7:56 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Great Skjajræ [ˈɕcɐ.ɾʲæ] Empire Conlang Scratchpad (currently, Skjajræfæ [ɕcɐˈɾʲæ.fʲæ])
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Re: Great Aéhoi [ɔ̥ᵝ.ə̥˦:.ɴ̥͡m̪̊o̥ᵝ.ɨ̥] Empire Conlang Scratchpad
Can fricative consonants coexist with approximants at the same POA? For example, Imperial Creole contrasts voiceless labiodental fricatives with voiceless/voiced labiodental approximants and voiced palatal/velar fricative/approximant consonant ([ʝ̞]) pairs.
- Thu Aug 22, 2019 11:28 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Great Skjajræ [ˈɕcɐ.ɾʲæ] Empire Conlang Scratchpad (currently, Skjajræfæ [ɕcɐˈɾʲæ.fʲæ])
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Re: Great Aéhoi [ɔ̥ᵝ.ə̥˦:.ɴ̥͡m̪̊o̥ᵝ.ɨ̥] Empire Conlang Scratchpad
Actually the most likely broad equivalent for /ʎ/ is /ɫ/, with an allophone of /l/ before front vowel if you broad consonant followed with front vowel. Also optional, but I think it's best to have /xʷ/ or /f/ and /ɬ/ instead of /ʍ/ and /ʟ̝̊/ All of those changes are previous stages in history. 1. [...
- Thu Aug 22, 2019 10:50 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Great Skjajræ [ˈɕcɐ.ɾʲæ] Empire Conlang Scratchpad (currently, Skjajræfæ [ɕcɐˈɾʲæ.fʲæ])
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Re: Great Aéhoi [ɔ̥ᵝ.ə̥˦:.ɴ̥͡m̪̊o̥ᵝ.ɨ̥] Empire Conlang Scratchpad
"Llanoran" phonology Parenthetical phonemes share orthographies. /(mˠ mʲ) (m̥ˠ m̥ʲ) (ŋ ɲ) (n̪ˠ n̪ʲ)/ <m ṁ n ṅ> /(pˠ pʲ) (bˠ bʲ) (t̪ˠ ʧ) (d̪ˠ ʤ) (k c) (g ɟ)/ <p b t d k g> /(w vʲ) (fˠ fʲ) (s̪ˠ ʃ) (ɣ ʝ) (x ç) (ʟ ʎ) (ʟ̝̊ ʎ̝)/ <ḃ f s ġ h l ḣ> /(ɣ˕ ʝ˕) (ɾˠ ɾʲ) ʍ/ <j r ḟ> Vowels Front/slender /...
- Mon Aug 12, 2019 5:59 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Great Skjajræ [ˈɕcɐ.ɾʲæ] Empire Conlang Scratchpad (currently, Skjajræfæ [ɕcɐˈɾʲæ.fʲæ])
- Replies: 50
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Re: Great Aéhoi [ɔ̥ᵝ.ə̥˦:.ɴ̥͡m̪̊o̥ᵝ.ɨ̥] Empire Conlang Scratchpad
Before I go into as much detail as I have about a language isolate spoken on my setting's home world, I'll provide some detail about the world itself, albeit with outdated names. "Batíkí" is a massive planet. Although there are several small islands dotting the Nubian Sea, the planet is do...
- Wed Aug 07, 2019 7:58 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Great Skjajræ [ˈɕcɐ.ɾʲæ] Empire Conlang Scratchpad (currently, Skjajræfæ [ɕcɐˈɾʲæ.fʲæ])
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Re: Great Aéhoi [ɔ̥ᵝ.ə̥˦:.ɴ̥͡m̪̊o̥ᵝ.ɨ̥] Empire Conlang Scratchpad
With the vowels having eight marked tones (seven short tones and a long high tone), the syllabary will be limited to one tone per vowel-inclusive glyph. The marked tone will always be on the small glyph of sounds like [çʌ] (<sju>). Keeping that example, if the [çʌ] glyph includes the diacritic for ...
- Wed Aug 07, 2019 9:35 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Great Skjajræ [ˈɕcɐ.ɾʲæ] Empire Conlang Scratchpad (currently, Skjajræfæ [ɕcɐˈɾʲæ.fʲæ])
- Replies: 50
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Re: Great Aéhoi [ɔ̥ᵝ.ə̥˦:.ɴ̥͡m̪̊o̥ᵝ.ɨ̥] Empire Conlang Scratchpad
Do you guys see a box the inverted ts glyph (ƾ), Greek stigma (ϛ), both, or neither? I need to know because I'll transcribe Imperial Creole's moraic consonant as the more widely-seen glyph as their linguists based the phoneme's shape off the local syllabary's character for it, with those two being ...
- Tue Aug 06, 2019 8:13 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Great Skjajræ [ˈɕcɐ.ɾʲæ] Empire Conlang Scratchpad (currently, Skjajræfæ [ɕcɐˈɾʲæ.fʲæ])
- Replies: 50
- Views: 33757
Re: Great Aéhoi [ɔ̥ᵝ.ə̥˦:.ɴ̥͡m̪̊o̥ᵝ.ɨ̥] Empire Conlang Scratchpad
Do you guys see a box the inverted ts glyph (ƾ), Greek stigma (ϛ), both, or neither? I need to know because I'll transcribe Imperial Creole's moraic consonant as the more widely-seen glyph as their linguists based the phoneme's shape off the local syllabary's character for it, with those two being t...
- Mon Aug 05, 2019 8:57 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Lexicon Sculpting
- Replies: 76
- Views: 97676
Re: Lexicon Sculpting
oíƿkusjaxƿ /ʍi˦ːƿ.kʌ.çɔ˩˥ƿ/ [ʍy˦ːŋ.kʌ.çɔ˩˥ŋ]: Blue-skinned aquatic humanoids my fictional world Additionally, sjaxƿ is Imperial Creole's proper particle for personal names when pronounced [çɔ˩˥ɴ]. Next: rasu sjagƿ /ʟ̝̊ɔ.sʌ çɔ˨ƿ/ [ʟ̝̊ɔ.sʌ çɔ˨ɴ]: Hyperion, the Emperor's military rank Additionally, sj...
- Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:10 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Great Skjajræ [ˈɕcɐ.ɾʲæ] Empire Conlang Scratchpad (currently, Skjajræfæ [ɕcɐˈɾʲæ.fʲæ])
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Re: Great Aéhoi [ɔ̥ᵝ.ə̥˦:.ɴ̥͡m̪̊o̥ᵝ.ɨ̥] Empire Conlang Scratchpad
Are the changes below plausible? I've broken them up because the questions are for specific stages. I'm aware that [ʟ̝̊] is rare, so please don't mention it.
Direct without appropriate approximants
[ɾ~ɺ → ɹ̝̆~ɮ̆]
Direct after devoicing even though they'd been voiced
[ɹ̥̆˔~ɬ̆ → x~ʟ̝̊]
Direct without appropriate approximants
[ɾ~ɺ → ɹ̝̆~ɮ̆]
Direct after devoicing even though they'd been voiced
[ɹ̥̆˔~ɬ̆ → x~ʟ̝̊]
- Fri Aug 02, 2019 7:12 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Random Conlang Grammar Ideas Thread
- Replies: 58
- Views: 56740
Re: Random Conlang Grammar Ideas Thread
Not that I'm trying to say what is right or wrong here, but it is funny you guys are telling me, the person who started the Conlang Random thread, what is the intention of said thread mèþru's correct, here. They'd know the purpose of their thread better than anyone else. They and I, actually, think...