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- Sat Dec 07, 2019 6:51 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Conlang Random Thread
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Re: Conlang Random Thread
I'm reconstructing Proto-Common with the help of several Wikipedia articles. Are any of the changes below, all of which happen anyways, completely odd? Mind you, the language is/was postulated to have been spoken by intergalactic ETs. 1. [*j̊ → l] 2. {*pʰ, *tʰ, *kʰ → ħ} 3. [*J → ʝ], but {*pJ, *tJ, ...
- Sat Dec 07, 2019 2:21 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Conlang Random Thread
- Replies: 3065
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Re: Conlang Random Thread
I'm reconstructing Proto-Common with the help of several Wikipedia articles. Are any of the changes below, all of which happen anyways, completely odd? Mind you, the language is/was postulated to have been spoken by intergalactic ETs. 1. [*j̊ → l] 2. {*pʰ, *tʰ, *kʰ → ħ} 3. [*J → ʝ], but {*pJ, *tJ, ...
- Sat Dec 07, 2019 7:52 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Conlang Random Thread
- Replies: 3065
- Views: 2892755
Re: Conlang Random Thread
I'm reconstructing Proto-Common with the help of several Wikipedia articles. Are any of the changes below, all of which happen anyways, completely odd? Mind you, the language is/was postulated to have been spoken by intergalactic ETs. 1. [*j̊ → l] 2. {*pʰ, *tʰ, *kʰ → ħ} 3. [*J → ʝ], but {*pJ, *tJ, *...
- Fri Nov 29, 2019 7:35 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Conlang Random Thread
- Replies: 3065
- Views: 2892755
Re: Conlang Random Thread
Then again, the question was "how realistic is it", and natlangs aren't a good measure of that :). JAL Hence my phrasing for similar questions, generally, being about plausibility rather than naturalism, or whatever the correct word is in this case. Speaking of, my conlang family has a hy...
- Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:42 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Conlang Random Thread
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Re: Conlang Random Thread
I plan on posting my lang family's the full phonological but have a few questions relating to dialectical difference beforehand. 1. Is [ç~x] plausible when a dialect's parent language already has [ʝ, h]? 2. is [θ~ð] plausible when <th> was always [t.h] in a dialect's parent language? (nasals to voic...
- Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:53 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Amusing Language Names
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Re: Amusing Language Names
There are languages called Ho - As - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/As_language Matbat - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matbat_language Mores - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mores_language also can be called Farmores Kis - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kis_language Mum - https://en.m.wikipedi...
- Fri Nov 08, 2019 8:32 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Conlang Random Thread
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Re: Conlang Random Thread
Generally speaking, is it acceptable to pair [ç] with [ʑ], despite the difference in sibilance, because [ʝ] sounds more similar to [j] than [ʑ], or could [ʑ] be articulated weakly enough to be [ʑ̞] rather than a strict [ʝ]? That’s certainly a bit unusual, but doesn’t seem at all implausible to me. ...
- Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:26 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Conlang Random Thread
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- Views: 2892755
Re: Conlang Random Thread
Generally speaking, is it acceptable to pair [ç] with [ʑ], despite the difference in sibilance, because [ʝ] sounds more similar to [j] than [ʑ], or could [ʑ] be articulated weakly enough to be [ʑ̞] rather than a strict [ʝ]? Additionally, the sci-fi/sci-fan version of my conlang has [ɻ̊˔, ɻ˔] that so...
- Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:05 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Conlang Random Thread
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Re: Conlang Random Thread
My main language's [l] vocalized to [u] in certain situations, resulting in the following tentative vowels: [ɤ, ʌ̞, ɯ, uː, ɑu̯, ou̯] <el, æl, il, ul, al, ol>. The long vowel and diphthongs are solid. Are [ʌ̞, ɤ, ɯ] plausible outcomes for [æl, el, il]? If not, what are plausible outcomes?
- Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:55 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Conlang Random Thread
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Re: Conlang Random Thread
Though, please be careful when you separate phonemes or phones with a tilde because it, actually, symbolizes free variation, which was never true of the family's /i, y/ phonemic pair. The tilde is also regularly used in cases of conditioned alternation. Okay. But, the language's /i, y/ never varied...
- Fri Oct 11, 2019 2:39 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Conlang Random Thread
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- Views: 2892755
Re: Conlang Random Thread
Surely in the IPA ʝ˕ just is j . Is the idea that you've got i~y and j~ɥ , and are wondering if you could write them both as ɩ ? I don't see why not. At one time, the language language family had /i, j/, written <i>, and /y/, written <y>. I split /i/ and /j/ into <i> and <j> orthographically becaus...
- Thu Oct 10, 2019 7:46 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Conlang Random Thread
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- Views: 2892755
Re: Conlang Random Thread
Thanks, bradrn. You’re welcome! The language pairs an ambiguously-rounded palatal approximant, transcribed [ʝ˕], with and ambiguously-rounded high front vowel, transcribed [ɩ] but without official IPA transcription. Have I unwittingly created a new semivowel? To clarify: are you asking if [ʝ˕] is a...
- Thu Oct 10, 2019 6:33 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Conlang Random Thread
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- Views: 2892755
Re: Conlang Random Thread
Thanks, bradrn.
The language pairs an ambiguously-rounded palatal approximant, transcribed [ʝ˕], with and ambiguously-rounded high front vowel, transcribed [ɩ] but without official IPA transcription. Have I unwittingly created a new semivowel?
The language pairs an ambiguously-rounded palatal approximant, transcribed [ʝ˕], with and ambiguously-rounded high front vowel, transcribed [ɩ] but without official IPA transcription. Have I unwittingly created a new semivowel?
- Thu Oct 10, 2019 5:34 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Conlang Random Thread
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- Views: 2892755
Re: Conlang Random Thread
My setting's main language has a process whereby its rhotic ([ɾ~r]) vocalizes into an r-coloured vowel under certain circumstances. Is this process more likely to end up with a high vowel—like l-vocalization, a mid vowel, or a low vowel?
- Fri Oct 04, 2019 11:15 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Conlang Random Thread
- Replies: 3065
- Views: 2892755
Re: Conlang Random Thread
Old Common's non-contrasting vowels /ɪ ʊ y/ are all reconstructed from an ambiguously-rounded high central vowel, /ɩ/. The more I think about the reanalysis below, the less I like it. As I love the idea of the language, at least, starting out with ambiguously-rounded vowels we don't have, is the sta...
- Wed Oct 02, 2019 4:41 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
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- Views: 832556
Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread
The changes below involving the ambiguously-rounded high central vowel, cover symbol Ï, are ordered by seniority.
Key
Ö = ambiguously-rounded low-mid back vowel
L = liquid
N = nasal
O = obstruent
[Ï → ɪ] / {L_, _L}
[Ï → ʊ] / {N_, _N}
[Ï → y] / {O_, _O}
[Ö → ɔ]
[ŋ → gn] / #_
[ŋ → g] / elsewhere
Key
Ö = ambiguously-rounded low-mid back vowel
L = liquid
N = nasal
O = obstruent
[Ï → ɪ] / {L_, _L}
[Ï → ʊ] / {N_, _N}
[Ï → y] / {O_, _O}
[Ö → ɔ]
[ŋ → gn] / #_
[ŋ → g] / elsewhere
- Wed Oct 02, 2019 11:09 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: The Bugs
- Replies: 85
- Views: 63159
Re: The Bugs
How'd /a, u/ become mid and low, respectively? After all, /a/'s low for us, while /u/'s high. Thus, we'd expect something like /o/ or /ɔ/ in there somewhere.
- Wed Oct 02, 2019 10:50 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Conlang Random Thread
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- Views: 2892755
Re: Conlang Random Thread
While mapping out the ancestry of my roleplay setting's Common language (CMMN), I've come to a point where I'm reconstructing the genesis or Old Common's /ɛ ɪ ɔ ʊ y/ vowels. However, I don't feel comfortable using a single proto-lang because most of them reconstruct from coalescing diphthongs. Are ...
- Wed Oct 02, 2019 10:23 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Conlang Random Thread
- Replies: 3065
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Re: Conlang Random Thread
While mapping out the ancestry of my roleplay setting's Common language (CMMN), I've come to a point where I'm reconstructing the genesis or Old Common's /ɛ ɪ ɔ ʊ y/ vowels. However, I don't feel comfortable using a single proto-lang because most of them reconstruct from coalescing diphthongs. Are t...
- Tue Sep 17, 2019 4:55 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: LE LEXIQUE DU CRÉOLE RÉUNIONNAIS D'ORIGINE MALGACHE
- Replies: 22
- Views: 16145
Re: LE LEXIQUE DU CRÉOLE RÉUNIONNAIS D'ORIGINE MALGACHE
I can't read french :(. To quote Trubetzkoy on Russian, “You ought to could!” Agreed. I'm not fluent either. I tend to interpret meanings from context. Before MacAnDàil translated the title as "The lexis of Réunion Creole of Malagasy origin," I'd pegged it to be "The lexi con of Réun...