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- Sun May 12, 2024 2:44 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel
- Replies: 909
- Views: 1083515
Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel
What are the s-mobile variants of *h₁yaǵ-? Wiktionary lists none.
- Sat May 04, 2024 6:11 pm
- Forum: Almea
- Topic: "Experiencer"
- Replies: 40
- Views: 4406
Re: "Experiencer"
Why do you think it's not made "with the intent to change one's native language"? Because the intent to sound cool or prestigious is a different (kind of) intent than the intent to conlang. Besides, 'coolness factor' borrowings are a subset of superstratum influence, and speakers aren't a...
- Sat May 04, 2024 5:17 pm
- Forum: Almea
- Topic: "Experiencer"
- Replies: 40
- Views: 4406
Re: "Experiencer"
To me this sounds like someone saying it's a totally different thing to draw faces from life, and to draw invented characters, so we should strictly separate "natfaces" and "confaces." Except that if you say that drawing an invented character is an analogy to conlanging, then th...
- Sat May 04, 2024 4:51 pm
- Forum: Almea
- Topic: "Experiencer"
- Replies: 40
- Views: 4406
Re: "Experiencer"
People making naturalistic conlangs are, well, trying to be naturalistic. Often that means simulating natural changes. E.g. you take a word list, run it through some plausible sound changes, and see what havoc that does to your morphology. That in turn suggests changes to the syntax. All this is pr...
- Sat May 04, 2024 3:47 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Word evolution game
- Replies: 2662
- Views: 274882
Re: Word evolution game
[j] > [c] ['œcɕ] eoisc "(to a woman of higher rank than oneself) Mrs., Ms.; (with titles of office) madam; (of judges, justices) your honour" Voiceless vowels drop with compensatory lengthening of the previous segment ['ɟ͡ʝec͡çː] giecia "(to a woman of higher rank than oneself) Mrs., ...
- Sat May 04, 2024 3:43 pm
- Forum: Ephemera
- Topic: The Contradictory Feelings Thread
- Replies: 666
- Views: 753727
Re: The Contradictory Feelings Thread
Whaat, why miss out on that opportunity? Is there some draconian punishment if you don't show up after having confirmed?
- Sat May 04, 2024 1:58 pm
- Forum: Almea
- Topic: "Experiencer"
- Replies: 40
- Views: 4406
Re: "Experiencer"
Another point is that conlangs' grammars are created consciously and with clear intent, whereas natlangs' grammars just sort of evolve on their own. People don't intentionally fiddle with morphemes and syntax, not with the intention of how their language "should" look like a couple of gene...
- Sat May 04, 2024 1:07 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel
- Replies: 909
- Views: 1083515
Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel
Indeed that's it! Regarding the Kartvelian form, it's discussed in another paper by the same author.
- Sat May 04, 2024 11:57 am
- Forum: Ephemera
- Topic: Random Thread
- Replies: 3731
- Views: 451091
Re: Random Thread
Random musing: why do we sing a song, but not drink a dronk? Make up your mind, English!
- Sat May 04, 2024 11:56 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel
- Replies: 909
- Views: 1083515
Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel
No, pretty sure it was positted to occur only in front of *l - something with related with the phonetics (and/or phonotactics) of the sonorant cluster [ml] made it likely to change to bl. IIRC there were examples given of ml > (m)bl in other languages. If only I could find the paper, I'd cite them. ...
- Sat May 04, 2024 11:15 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel
- Replies: 909
- Views: 1083515
Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel
Dunno if this has been discussed already here, but PIE *Hebl- 'apple' may not be a loanword at all, and instead just be a metastethised form of *meHlom. Can't track down the paper from academia.edu I originally read that in, but the gist is that an intermediate form *Heml- underwent ml → bl. Also, a...
- Sat May 04, 2024 10:42 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
- Replies: 4687
- Views: 2061811
Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Right, begining of the Old English period , not language. It's not like the ol' Angles went to bed one night speaking Proto-Germanic and woke up the next morning speaking Old English. "English", "Old English" and "Proto-Germanic" are all labels we arbitrarily tack on a ...
- Sat May 04, 2024 10:32 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Word evolution game
- Replies: 2662
- Views: 274882
Re: Word evolution game
[kx] > [cɕ] / V[+front]_ ['œcɕ] diórhe "(to a woman of higher rank than oneself) Mrs., Ms.; (with titles of office) madam; (of judges, justices) your honour" Palatalisation: ['ɟʝe.cɕæ̥] gaiciah "(to a woman of higher rank than oneself) Mrs., Ms.; (with titles of office) madam; (of jud...
- Wed May 01, 2024 12:10 pm
- Forum: Ephemera
- Topic: Venting thread
- Replies: 1920
- Views: 15027932
Re: Venting thread
Welcome to the clubdoctor shark wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 11:33 am Here I was hoping unemployment would be a bit more vacation-like. Guess not!
- Wed May 01, 2024 10:46 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Resources Thread
- Replies: 88
- Views: 69820
Re: Resources Thread
I was linked to this impressively accessible grammar of West Greenlandic: https://oqa.dk/assets/aitwg2ED.pdf . It’s a little eccentric in its presentation, but then again West Greenlandic is a little eccentric too, so it works well. From just reading the first few pages this seems much more "f...
- Mon Apr 22, 2024 11:43 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: What are the phonotactics rules for Classical Latin?
- Replies: 22
- Views: 934
- Mon Apr 22, 2024 12:53 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: What are the phonotactics rules for Classical Latin?
- Replies: 22
- Views: 934
Re: What are the phonotactics rules for Classical Latin?
Who gets to say what's acceptable and what is correct?
- Mon Apr 08, 2024 10:55 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel
- Replies: 909
- Views: 1083515
Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel
I feel like it has to count against loanword hypotheses for 7 that other loanword hypotheses for Indo-European numerals don't seem to hold much water. Blažek reviews them in passing for every numeral and only fails to reject any for 7 because there is no consensus on an internal derivation (the bes...
- Sun Apr 07, 2024 6:29 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel
- Replies: 909
- Views: 1083515
Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel
Alright, I don't know about ancient Egyptian, but apparently Akkadian has sebettum '7.MASC.FREE' and sebūtum '7th.FEM', and both are just a couple of vowel drops away from *septm . Infact, Proto-Slavic - and perhaps Proto-Germanic - rather point to *sebdm , and an alleged pre-form *sebtm nicely acco...
- Sun Mar 31, 2024 2:07 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Marginal distinctions
- Replies: 15
- Views: 616
Re: Marginal distinctions
What does a Milwaukee rhotic sound like? Is it close to any of these pronunciations? Searching for "Milwaukee uvular rhotic" turned up nothing of interest.