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- Sat Aug 21, 2021 9:52 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Short questions for the Omni-kan project
- Replies: 51
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Re: Short questions for the Omni-kan project
Heh, I just saw your perfective thread. I'm gonna read and see if it's of any help...
- Sat Aug 21, 2021 9:48 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: bradrn’s scratchpad
- Replies: 124
- Views: 83058
Re: bradrn’s scratchpad (Wēchizaŋkəŋ)
Well, you posted the challenge in May, and I posted the language in July, so… two months? But I didn’t work on it consistently. That's fast for that amount of work! Well, I don’t recall ever seeing it in a natlang. But hey, it’s an interesting system! Oh? Well that's well done for coming up with su...
- Sat Aug 21, 2021 9:44 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Short questions for the Omni-kan project
- Replies: 51
- Views: 44362
Re: Short questions for the Omni-kan project
I think it’s best to be consistent in an auxlang — either make everything head-final, or make everything head-initial, but I don’t think it’s a good idea to do a mixture. I don’t think any one approach is necessarily better than any other. I agree that it would be more logical if everything was 100...
- Sat Aug 21, 2021 9:20 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Conlang Random Thread
- Replies: 3065
- Views: 2892810
Re: Number Complexity
I suppose you might get a clue if prepositions were conjugated. :) >_< If a language has unconjugated modal verbs, how do you know that they are verbs and not adverbs or prepositions or particles or something? I think you are approaching this the wrong way. Whether a word with a modal meaning is a ...
- Wed Aug 18, 2021 1:21 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Conlang Random Thread
- Replies: 3065
- Views: 2892810
Re: Conlang Random Thread
If a language has unconjugated modal verbs, how do you know that they are verbs and not adverbs or prepositions or particles or something? Btw, I saw that there was some language that had a word translated as "should" but classified as an adverb. I'll post that example later when I've foun...
- Wed Aug 18, 2021 12:54 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: bradrn’s scratchpad
- Replies: 124
- Views: 83058
Re: bradrn’s scratchpad (Wēchizaŋkəŋ)
Now I've finished reading it. How long did it take you to make this? I never get that much done on grammar. Surface primary stress is consistently on one of the first two syllables. In most case, the stressed syllable can be predicted by the following rules, although they occasionally fail: This is ...
- Sun Aug 08, 2021 11:27 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: What have you accomplished today?
- Replies: 797
- Views: 401712
Re: What have you accomplished today?
I'm thinking of putting out a sample of the dictionary of my 'Pseudo-Misihase' conlang (a posteriori Tungusic) -- I saw that Lexique Pro lets you output a compressed self-installing file that's easy to share. Maybe in a few days I'll post it on the forum and see what people think. It's more of an a...
- Sun Aug 08, 2021 11:12 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Short questions for the Omni-kan project
- Replies: 51
- Views: 44362
Re: Short questions for the Omni-kan project
As you can see, only one of these examples precedes its modifier. I mean, in Omni-kan they precede. Based on this, is there anything one can say about the order of prepositional phrases? I'm thinking specifically about prepositional phrases that describe location. I'll give a couple of example sent...
- Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:23 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Loan words with more specific meanings after than before the borrowing
- Replies: 147
- Views: 114088
Re: Loan words with more specific meanings after than before the borrowing
To me it's much more broadly applicable, not limited to online fracas (fracases?). Certainly when I learned it in the '80s, that wasn't even an option. A term I'm fond of, and am glad to hear has been borrowed by other languages :) Same thought here - it is more widely applicable to a variety of cl...
- Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:17 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: bradrn’s scratchpad
- Replies: 124
- Views: 83058
Re: bradrn’s scratchpad (Wēchizaŋkəŋ)
Oh, this is that conlang with weird romanization choices for some consonants that you've been posting in the Conlang fluency thread! Surface primary stress is consistently on one of the first two syllables. In most case, the stressed syllable can be predicted by the following rules, although they oc...
- Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:43 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Short questions for the Omni-kan project
- Replies: 51
- Views: 44362
Re: Short questions for the Omni-kan project
Anyway, so it's clear now that adverbials always precede the thing they modify. Based on this, is there anything one can say about the order of prepositional phrases? I'm thinking specifically about prepositional phrases that describe location. I'll give a couple of example sentences. Hmm, it might ...
- Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:35 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Short questions for the Omni-kan project
- Replies: 51
- Views: 44362
Re: Short questions for the Omni-kan project
(Btw, I don't think there are much more "syntactically experted people".) Thanks, but I'd point to Zompist (he's written a book, fer cryin' out loud!) and pretty much anyone who has looked into syntactic trees, transformations, etc. I have actually taken a course in syntax, but I can't ma...
- Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:34 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Short questions for the Omni-kan project
- Replies: 51
- Views: 44362
Re: Short questions for the Omni-kan project
Note that poste mici puru saha "turn back the clock" is a subject complement here since it is describing the subject: mi "I". This might be part of what's tripping you up: Aha. I had to reread that part in the WP article , because that's something I hadn't understood at all. So ...
- Sun Jul 18, 2021 4:24 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Balog: a strictly monovalent conlang
- Replies: 83
- Views: 43464
Re: Balog: a strictly monovalent conlang
Balog could, at this stage, easily get along without definiteness/specificity marking in the predicate I just wanted to say that if you did decide to do this, you don't have to worry about it being a weird random feature (=bad conlanging). It would be weird, but there's a perfectly logical explanat...
- Sun Jul 18, 2021 4:05 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Short questions for the Omni-kan project
- Replies: 51
- Views: 44362
Re: Short questions for the Omni-kan project
So I wonder if anyone knows of other natlang suffixes used for male derivation. I would like it to come from one of the below languages, but I may consider other languages as well. German has -rich . It's not terribly common and mainly used just for a few animals. Thanks! I might change my male suf...
- Sun Jul 18, 2021 3:56 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Short questions for the Omni-kan project
- Replies: 51
- Views: 44362
Re: Short questions for the Omni-kan project
One very important thing I would add is that languages very often have multiple complement types. For instance, the English sentence I wish [one was able [to turn back the clock]] has two different complement types: One was able to turn back the clock has the internal structure of a sentence, and c...
- Sun Jul 18, 2021 3:43 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Short questions for the Omni-kan project
- Replies: 51
- Views: 44362
Re: Short questions for the Omni-kan project
one could turn back the clock. INDEF.PRON can back way turn clock wan pisa poste mici puru saha Yes? Ah, I see. I had been thinking of only poste mici (back way) as the complement, and saha (clock) as a separate object. I wish one could turn back the clock. Mi tamana wan pisa poste mici puru saha Y...
- Sat Jul 17, 2021 12:38 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Short questions for the Omni-kan project
- Replies: 51
- Views: 44362
Re: Short questions for the Omni-kan project
Right now I'm struggling with this sentence: I wish one could turn back the clock. 1SG wish INDEF.PRON can back way turn clock Mi tamana wan pisa poste mici puru saha In Omni-kan adverbs are supposed to come before the verb, so if "back way"* is an adverb, it should come before "turn&...
- Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:01 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Balog: a strictly monovalent conlang
- Replies: 83
- Views: 43464
Re: Balog: a strictly monovalent conlang
Shhhhh! 🤐 Well, most of them are and that's how I've envisaged it, that writing is a specialised activity performed by the upper echelons. In fact, probably they'd get non-orcs to write for them since they don't have such fine motor control. The person who had the writing done, however, is still re...
- Sun Jul 11, 2021 1:25 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Loan words with more specific meanings after than before the borrowing
- Replies: 147
- Views: 114088