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- Mon Jun 03, 2024 4:59 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Phrase evolution game
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Re: Phrase evolution game
Retroactively correct /sj/ that didn't become /j/. Rounin's cluster simplification is also applied across a syllable boundary (with compensatory lengthening as before) as well as word-initially (with no compensatory lengthening). /˨ ˦ ˩˨ ˧˦/ merges with /˧ ˥ ˩˧ ˧˥/. Vowels diphthongize in hiatus. M...
- Sun Jun 02, 2024 7:31 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Phrase evolution game
- Replies: 718
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Re: Phrase evolution game
Let's go back to having some fun with ancient Greek: μῆνιν ἄειδε θεὰ Πηληϊάδεω Ἀχιλῆος οὐλομένην, ἣ μυρί’ Ἀχαιοῖς ἄλγε’ ἔθηκε, πολλὰς δ’ ἰφθίμους ψυχὰς Ἄϊδι προΐαψεν ἡρώων, αὐτοὺς δὲ ἑλώρια τεῦχε κύνεσσιν οἰωνοῖσί τε πᾶσι, Διὸς δ’ ἐτελείετο βουλή, ἐξ οὗ δὴ τὰ πρῶτα διαστήτην ἐρίσαντε Ἀτρεΐδης τε ἄνα...
- Sun Jun 02, 2024 1:25 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Phrase evolution game
- Replies: 718
- Views: 307131
Re: Phrase evolution game
Nasalization is lost, leaving behind a length distinction again. Initial /ɥ ɰ/ fortite to /ʝʷɥ ɣɰ/. 他在家唦说方言,在学校唦说普通话。 Lā shà shā ravō yuāajāa, shà hiojào ravō fulǒoguào. /la˥ ɕa˥˩ ɕa˥ ɾa˧ʋo˥ ʝʷɥaː˥d͡ʑaː˥ | ɕã˥˩ ço˧ʑɔ˥˩ ɾa˧ʋo˥ fu˧loː˩ɣɰɔ˥˩/ "He speaks the local dialect at home and Standard Mand...
- Sun Jun 02, 2024 9:30 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Phrase evolution game
- Replies: 718
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Re: Phrase evolution game
Retroactively make /æ̃/ consistently transliterated ain . The third tone shifts to a low level tone, whether or not it is a "half" third tone. Toneless minor syllables become mid tone, and the length distinction is lost. /ɐ/ merges with /a/. 说 is respelled 唦说 so that the number of hanzi m...
- Sat Jun 01, 2024 5:06 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Phrase evolution game
- Replies: 718
- Views: 307131
Re: Phrase evolution game
Final nasal consonants elide, leaving behind nasalization. Tones are represented in the IPA by staff letters for legibility. The tones themselves do not change, but the instance of third tone here is rendered as a "half-third" tone, and minor syllables do not have their tone explicitly no...
- Mon Jan 15, 2024 8:33 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Phrase evolution game
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Re: Phrase evolution game
Retroactively added a missing syllable break. /j w/ → /d͡ʑ ɡw/ after a sonorant in the same word, which assimilates thereto when nasal. Remaining /j/ elides after /ɕ ʑ/; /ɥ/ in the same environment becomes just /ʷ/. The romanization gets a minor update to reflect the above. 他在家说方言,在学校说普通话。 Cā sài x...
- Wed Dec 06, 2023 8:17 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: What do you call ...
- Replies: 413
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Re: What do you call ...
If your goal was to ask us what we call these, don't read any further. If your goal is to know what these are called, there's something called Google . You should try it once :). This is a little condescending. I tried Google to see if there was a technical word for it that wasn't coming to me (as ...
- Mon Dec 04, 2023 6:31 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: What do you call ...
- Replies: 413
- Views: 1018883
- Sun Dec 03, 2023 7:02 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: What do you call ...
- Replies: 413
- Views: 1018883
Re: What do you call ...
What do you call the roof over a porch or a verandah?
- Sat Dec 02, 2023 12:43 pm
- Forum: Ephemera
- Topic: Flaws with the Metric System
- Replies: 84
- Views: 14541
Re: Flaws with the Metric System
I have a funny thing where i find farenheit more intuitive above ~60°F/15°C, and celsius more intuitive below. This is because i grew up in California, where colder temperatures were relatively rare, but when i went to college, i started making an effort to personally metricize, and spending the wi...
- Fri Dec 01, 2023 6:31 pm
- Forum: Ephemera
- Topic: Flaws with the Metric System
- Replies: 84
- Views: 14541
Re: Flaws with the Metric System
I'm a bit late to the party here, but I wanted to provide my input. Note that in the computing world, "micro" is commonly written with "u", by its graphic similarity to "μ", particularly in the case of "us" for microseconds. I've always found this annoying. If...
- Tue Oct 31, 2023 3:03 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Phrase evolution game
- Replies: 718
- Views: 307131
Re: Phrase evolution game
...which is a text we've apparently already done, albeit in Latin instead of Spanish. Ah, well, too lazy to come up with anything else.
- Mon Oct 30, 2023 10:25 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Phrase evolution game
- Replies: 718
- Views: 307131
Re: Phrase evolution game
I think that's run its course now. Let's do Spanish this time: En un lugar de la Mancha, de cuyo nombre no quiero acordarme, no ha mucho tiempo que vivía un hidalgo de los de lanza en astillero, adarga antigua, rocín flaco y galgo corredor. En un lugar de la Mancha, de cuyo nombre no quiero acordarm...
- Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:00 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Phrase evolution game
- Replies: 718
- Views: 307131
Re: Phrase evolution game
Vowels that don't become high tone are perceived as mid tone. Vowels nasalize before a nasal consonant; nasal consonants then elide except before a vowel (the exception does not apply before a pausa). Front nasal vowels merge to /ɛ̃/ and rounded nasal vowels to /ɔ̃/. /ã ə̃/ do not change. Obstruent...
- Tue Sep 19, 2023 3:18 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
- Replies: 1333
- Views: 824928
Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Also (I may or may not decide to have this in the same language family as above), how common are languages like Ancient Greek and Mandarin Chinese where a coda consonant can be a sonorant, but not a stop? Umm, doesn't Ancient Greek permit non-sonorant codas, e.g. in the word polis ? (I assume you m...
- Tue Sep 19, 2023 12:25 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
- Replies: 1333
- Views: 824928
Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Also (I may or may not decide to have this in the same language family as above), how common are languages like Ancient Greek and Mandarin Chinese where a coda consonant can be a sonorant, but not a stop?
- Sun Sep 03, 2023 11:05 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Grammaticalization Quickie Thread
- Replies: 151
- Views: 100526
Re: Grammaticalization Quickie Thread
Let ERGVERB stand for any ergative verb in a language that does not mark grammatical voice. Suppose a speaker of such a language wants to make a distinction between what in English would be "He ERGVERBed" and "He was ERGVERBed." Are there ways to do that besides recasting the lat...
- Sun Sep 03, 2023 10:37 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
- Replies: 1333
- Views: 824928
Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread
So I have a phonology that starts off with a syllable structure of CCVC and only five vowel qualities: /a e i o u/. Germanic-style umlaut ends up adding /ɛ œ ø y ɔ/, the umlaut also creates a new consonant phoneme /ɥ/ from a conditional merger of /j w/. All ten vowels have a length distinction, thou...
- Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:56 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
- Replies: 1333
- Views: 824928
Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread
I have [ɲ c cʰ cʼ] as allophones of /ŋ k kʰ kʼ/ before front vowels /e i/. I also have the phonemes /q qʰ qʼ/, which causes a following vowel to allophonically retract (in the case of /e i/, to [ɛ ɪ]). Is it plausible, therefore, to have [cɛ cɪ] as an allophone of /qe qi/, for example (converting th...
- Sat Apr 15, 2023 8:01 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Grammaticalization Quickie Thread
- Replies: 151
- Views: 100526
Re: Grammaticalization Quickie Thread
Is it attested for there to be distinct words for "to be" and "to be so"? I don't want to give my language dedicated words for "yes" or "no," and I want to give them pro-verbs that they can use to respond to polar questions instead. (They can also employ echo ...