Zompist Bboard Again

• come (intr.), xalaa
• old, chii
• English, ingalis

Xalaabizi yoha <g> chii bakizim ingalisa chiita.
come-ABL-AGT.3.S.INAN yogh-ERG <g> old use-AGT.3.S.INAN-PST.IPFV-INV English-ERG old-ERG
The yogh came from the old <g> used with Old English.

That's messed up. [joins in the snarling] Don'tcha love HR? [forms a snarling chorus with those already snarling] I know! Though it looks like it's a bit of a blessing that my move is a bit delayed, because it turns out the apartment I put a lot of money down as a deposit to rent was faker than my ...

The only thing I would criticize about your table there is that I'd call what you call 'intransitive' 'direct' instead. It's the Official(tm) terminology for the S case in tripartite alignment, and Ergative for the A and Accusative for the P/O. Thing is, you don't have tripartite alignment. I'm not...

The only thing I would criticize about your table there is that I'd call what you call 'intransitive' 'direct' instead.

[ɟ.ɟ] > [d.dʑ] [xjòːd.dʑé] 偽 | へうりぇう | ひょーっぎぇ | 허러 | hyōggye Kanji | Traditional Hiragana | Reformed Hiragana | Hangeul | Romanization "perjury; alibi, especially if dubious; (military slang) cover story, pretext, what’s released to the public (especially if fabricated)" [æː] > [eə̯] [kas'...

Man in Space wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 3:37 pm

Travis B. wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 12:46 pm

bradrn wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 12:40 pm

I interpret them as simply heterorganic affricates — e.g. [tx] is attested in Navajo.

Not merely heterorganic but also heterovoiced affricates like [bx] and [dx] seem, well, strange to me...

It’s supposed to be velar frication like in Lakota.

Ah gotcha.

[ɟʎ] > [ɟ.ɟ]

[xø̀ːɟ.ɟé]
偽 | へうりぇう | へーうぐりぇ | 허러 | heûglie
Kanji | Traditional Hiragana | Reformed Hiragana | Hangeul | Romanization
"perjury; alibi, especially if dubious; (military slang) cover story, pretext, what’s released to the public (especially if fabricated)"

Start date in Luxembourg got delayed to 15 August due to the slugs at the HR not getting me the documents I need to apply for the residence authorization! [insert snarling noises] That's messed up. [joins in the snarling] Don'tcha love HR? [forms a snarling chorus with those already snarling]

/b x t x d x c x k x q x / b' t' d' c' k' q' By the way, what are those x 's supposed to signify? I tried looking up the extIPA for those but the page I got on the Wiki rendered much of such things as blocks. I interpret them as simply heterorganic affricates — e.g. [tx] is attested in Navajo. Not ...

Modals: Well, this language does not have conventional modals in the way that IE languages tend to. Rather, it has verbs that take a subordinate clause as an argument which it qualifies. Here are some such verbs: want (trans.), sii need (trans.), mag would (intr.), yaa is able to be (intr.), mad is ...

Man in Space wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 12:22 am /b^x t^x d^x c^x k^x q^x/ b' t' d' c' k' q'

By the way, what are those ^x's supposed to signify? I tried looking up the extIPA for those but the page I got on the Wiki rendered much of such things as blocks.

Znex, are you working on Mercian, the North Germanic language with even more Old English influence? Ʒ'hak giare mik wark pae marcisc gin at is awi tha ettles, ut gin tha wil, ʒe kun skrive ei breve um at braith. :) I haven't done much work on Markish if that is what you mean, but if you like, I cou...

[ew] > [øː]

[xø̀ː.gʎé]
偽 | へうりぇう | へぉれゃえぉ | 허러 | heowlyeo
Kanji | Traditional Hiragana | Reformed Hiragana | Hangeul | Romanization
"perjury; alibi, especially if dubious; (military slang) cover story, pretext, what’s released to the public (especially if fabricated)"

Why the term Adnominal rather than Determiner for that particular series? Just curious ‘Determiner‘ in IE grammar generally refers to a syntactic slot which can be filled by a whole range of different items: articles, demonstratives, possessives, quantifiers, etc. Eŋes doesn’t have any single slot ...

jal wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 8:33 am

Travis B. wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 6:24 amI normally do this.
I do this fcr a small set of verbs such as ta[/t] (the equational copula) and [i[ga (the existential copula).

Makes sense! Thanks.

Forget about ga there - ga is intransitive (I was half-asleep when writing that, hence my many typos in my original post).

• tradition, rihta

Taye yoh rihtasefa.
COP-PRES yogh tradition-ADJ.GEN-COMPR
The yogh is more traditional.

• appear, naw
• Latin, latin
• write, scratch, xaca

Nawizinu yoh xacakakufa latinit.
appear-AGT.3.S.INAN-HAB yogh write-NOM.AGT-ADJ.LIKE-COMPR Latin-GEN
The yogh looks more Latin-script-like.

foxcatdog wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 12:28 am *a *e *i *j *k *kʷ *l *m *n *ń *o *p *r *s *ś *t *u *w

/a e i j k kʷ l m n ɲ o p r s ɕ t u ʋ/

Of course, I use ergative and accusative in non-standard fashions to refer to marked arguments of intransitive verbs in a fluid-S arrangement along with antipassive and passive verbs, where agentive S is direct for animates and ergative for inanimates and patientive S is accusative for animates and...

⟨a e i o u⟩ /a e i o u/ ⟨aa ee ii oo uu⟩ /aː eː iː oː uː/ ⟨m n⟩ /m n/ ⟨t c k q⟩ /t t͡ʃ k q/ ⟨th ch kh qh⟩ /tʰ t͡ʃʰ kʰ qʰ/ ⟨t' c' k' q'⟩ /tʼ t͡ʃʼ kʼ qʼ/ ⟨b d j g⟩ /b d d͡ʒ ɡ/ ⟨b' d'⟩ /ɓ ɗ/ ⟨f s z x h⟩ /f s z x h/ ⟨w l y r⟩ /w l j r/ (I did see this language a couple of days ago, so I’ve tried to avo...