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- Thu May 09, 2024 10:57 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Challenge: American English as a separate language
- Replies: 19
- Views: 374
Re: Challenge: American English as a separate language
I think you're onto something here. The case can definitely be made that global communication does do a bit to slow the otherwise natural drift, though, mainly from American English to other varieties--e.g. I notice more and more younger Englishmen in media engaging in very American-sounding yod-dr...
- Thu May 09, 2024 10:41 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Challenge: American English as a separate language
- Replies: 19
- Views: 374
Re: Challenge: American English as a separate language
...and that I would have no expectation that a Brit would readily understand my own speech unless I was deliberately approximating GA... Curious... Any audio clips? I have no audio clips of my natural, everyday speech that I can readily locate at the moment, and my problem with that is that when I ...
- Wed May 08, 2024 9:29 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Challenge: American English as a separate language
- Replies: 19
- Views: 374
Re: Challenge: American English as a separate language
I'm tempted to say the collapse of global telecommunications, or else a future where all of it occurrs by text, something like that.... then again, I wonder if the different big dialects of english (you know, brit, american, australian... not so much norfolk vs suffolk) have grown more or less inte...
- Wed May 08, 2024 5:50 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: English questions
- Replies: 1383
- Views: 443880
Re: English questions
I had assumed the presence of [t] in second , as in /ˈsɛkənd/ [ˈsɜkɘ̃ːnt], was simple English final devoicing, but today I noticed that my daughter has [ˈsɜkɘ̃ʔ] for it, at least at times, which presumably reflects underlying /ˈsɛkənt/. Any thoughts on this? I cannot recall any other words in Englis...
- Wed May 08, 2024 5:36 pm
- Forum: Ephemera
- Topic: United States Politics Thread 46
- Replies: 1415
- Views: 444414
Re: United States Politics Thread 46
I get why a spontaneous student movement is as threatening to establishment Democrats as it is to Republicans, but I really wish people would apply a modicum of common sense and a healthy dose of scepticism when evaluating the charges of those trying to discredit the movement. It's the same canards...
- Wed May 08, 2024 1:28 pm
- Forum: Ephemera
- Topic: AIs gunning for our precious freelancers
- Replies: 707
- Views: 136625
Re: AIs gunning for our precious freelancers
Another Trump term would only help spread fascism even more than it has already spread around the world. Remember, Trump was cheering on people like Viktor Orbán and Vladimir Putin. Conversely, the Dems have been against the further spread of fascism. And the position you are espousing here is very ...
- Wed May 08, 2024 11:22 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Challenge: American English as a separate language
- Replies: 19
- Views: 374
Re: Challenge: American English as a separate language
The key thing is that GA is effectively a descendent of older versions of what became SSBE, but without the development of non-rhoticity or things such the trap - bath split, and with its own vowel mergers (such as the marry - merry - Mary merger). As a result, GA and SSBE are actually quite close t...
- Wed May 08, 2024 10:33 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
- Replies: 4671
- Views: 2058312
Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
When did do support first appear in English? according to Dr McWhorter, back in the days of Welsh, Cornish, and other Celtic languages. (it was brought into English from there, so its been here the whole time) Key thing there is according to -- it seems that this position may not be universal.
- Tue May 07, 2024 12:13 pm
- Forum: Ephemera
- Topic: War in the Middle East, again
- Replies: 417
- Views: 73773
Re: War in the Middle East, again
I’m sorry, but this is not ‘latent’ antisemitism. This is antisemitism. ‘The Jews are coming to kill us all and replace us’ is one of the oldest and most persistent antisemitic canards there is. I’ve been the target of this accusation myself, long before the current events. You have missed Torco's ...
- Tue May 07, 2024 12:01 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Challenge: American English as a separate language
- Replies: 19
- Views: 374
Re: Challenge: American English as a separate language
Plenty of divergent dialects made it to North America in large numbers. Where I grew up, the largest ethnic group was "Scotch Irish," meaning there would have been a time when everyone in the Appalachians sounded like this child . The issue is that those divergent dialects never made up t...
- Tue May 07, 2024 10:32 am
- Forum: Ephemera
- Topic: The perception of rhythm in language
- Replies: 15
- Views: 234
- Mon May 06, 2024 12:08 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: AI in conlanging - present and future
- Replies: 14
- Views: 214
Re: AI in conlanging - present and future
To me LLM's are limited for all the reasons people have already stated here. LLM's can only produce content as good as the human-generated content it is trained on, and will get worse once they start getting fed content generated by AI in the first place.
- Mon May 06, 2024 11:02 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Word evolution game
- Replies: 2646
- Views: 274137
Re: Word evolution game
Lengthening of vowels in open syllables ['juː.vɔʃ] ivvos "( to a woman of higher rank than oneself ) Mrs., Ms.; ( of judges, justices ) your honour" u > [y] before front vowels and semivowels. ['iyj̥] ieich "( chiefly archaic ) madam, ma'am" [s], including when geminate, > [ɕ] af...
- Sat May 04, 2024 10:32 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Word evolution game
- Replies: 2646
- Views: 274137
Re: Word evolution game
[ɔː] > [uɔ̯] ['juɔ̯s] iós "(to a woman of higher rank than oneself) Mrs., Ms.; (with titles of office) madam; (of judges, justices) your honour" [ej] > [æj] ['jæjç] ieich "(to a woman of higher rank than oneself) Mrs., Ms.; (with titles of office) madam; (of judges, justices) your hon...
- Sat May 04, 2024 8:57 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Word evolution game
- Replies: 2646
- Views: 274137
Re: Word evolution game
[œ] > [jɔ] ['jɔt͡s] oets "(to a woman of higher rank than oneself) Mrs., Ms.; (with titles of office) madam; (of judges, justices) your honour" [çː] > [jç] / V_ ['ʝejç] giecch "(to a woman of higher rank than oneself) Mrs., Ms.; (with titles of office) madam; (of judges, justices) you...
- Sat May 04, 2024 5:01 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Word evolution game
- Replies: 2646
- Views: 274137
Re: Word evolution game
I am getting sick of voiceless palatal affricates...
- Sat May 04, 2024 4:59 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Syntax random
- Replies: 195
- Views: 114099
Re: Syntax random
We didn’t see [only the Louvre]. ⇒ We only didn’t see the Louvre. Yet, the first sentence exists in surface structure with a completely different meaning! For you, that meaning is unambiguously different; for me it’s ambiguous, and can be the same under highly marked circumstances. But, apparently,...
- Sat May 04, 2024 1:36 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
- Replies: 4671
- Views: 2058312
Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Exactly. And in this case there are no convenient historical events that we can firmly peg a transition in our periodization to (such as how 1066 is used as a demarcation between Old and Middle English). Nitpick: The Old to Middle transition is normally dated to 1200, for which the historical peg w...
- Sat May 04, 2024 11:45 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel
- Replies: 889
- Views: 1082700
Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel
Dunno if this has been discussed already here, but PIE *Hebl- 'apple' may not be a loanword at all, and instead just be a metastethised form of *meHlom. Can't track down the paper from academia.edu I originally read that in, but the gist is that an intermediate form *Heml- underwent ml → bl. Also, ...
- Sat May 04, 2024 11:00 am
- Forum: Ephemera
- Topic: War in the Middle East, again
- Replies: 417
- Views: 73773
Re: War in the Middle East, again
There's been (often masked) Zionists actively attacking encampments here in the US, as Emily states.