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by Nortaneous
Sun Sep 03, 2023 7:42 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
Replies: 988
Views: 488311

Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0

as What /p t ʃ~tʃ~tʲ k kʷ q/ <p t ti ki ku k> /mb nd ndʒ ŋg ŋgʷ ɴɢ/ <mb nd ndi nggi nggu ngg> /β l̪ ɽ~ɺ ɣ w ʁ/ <b l d r u g> /m n ɲ ŋ ŋʷ ɴ/ <m n ni ngi ngu ng> /j/ <i> /a ɛ ɔ e (ᵊ) o i u/ <a ai au e y eu i~w u> /aː ɛː ɔː eː oː iː uː/ <â aî aû ê eû î~ŵ û> Abeg timu ia nyndeu bu ndien. Ade nymbe parîk...
by Nortaneous
Sun Sep 03, 2023 7:32 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
Replies: 988
Views: 488311

Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0

Mapos Buang /p t ʃ~tʃ~tʲ k kʷ q/ /mb nd ndʒ ŋg ŋgʷ ɴɢ/ /β l̪ ɽ~ɺ ɣ w ʁ/ /m n ɲ ŋ ŋʷ ɴ/ /j/ /a ɛ ɔ e (ᵊ) o i u/ /aː ɛː ɔː eː oː iː uː/ [h] is appended after short word-final vowels. Hooley exclusively uses the orthography, which is underspecified, so some non-phonemic schwa may actually be /ɛ/. /aβeʁ...
by Nortaneous
Sat Sep 02, 2023 9:43 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
Replies: 988
Views: 488311

Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0

Starbeam wrote: Sat Sep 02, 2023 9:22 am is a three way contrast between /q/, /g/, and /ɢ/ possible? especially alongside /ɣ/
yes
by Nortaneous
Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:28 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
Replies: 988
Views: 488311

Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0

Sallaeh /p t tʲ ʧ k ʔ/ <p t te~ti ch k 0> /tʰ/ <tʼ> /b d g/ <b d g> /m n nʲ ŋ/ <m n ne~ni ng> /r/ <rr> /f s sʲ ʃ x h/ <f s se~si sh gh h> /fʰ sʰ/ <fʼ sʼ> /v z (ɦ)/ <v z h> /l ɺ j/ <l r y~i> /i u e ɵ o ɛ a/ <i~e oo a uCC o eCC aCC> Breathy voice: <Vh> /i/ <iCC> except <eC> when adjacent to a palatal;...
by Nortaneous
Mon Aug 21, 2023 7:03 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel
Replies: 1043
Views: 1094959

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel

See also this blog post . The claim that Tocharian, which is known to have been extensively restructured by contact with Uralic I didn’t know this. Do you have more information anywhere? Peyrot 2019 , but consider the stop system collapse and expansion of the case system (including a perlative but ...
by Nortaneous
Sun Aug 20, 2023 10:08 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel
Replies: 1043
Views: 1094959

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel

See also this blog post . The claim that Tocharian, which is known to have been extensively restructured by contact with Uralic, "had little or no substrate influence as it expanded into thinly populated regions en route to and in the Tarim Basin" is bizarre. This could charitably refer t...
by Nortaneous
Wed Aug 09, 2023 10:07 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conlang fluency thread
Replies: 2559
Views: 1503767

Re: Conlang fluency thread

Obzhakshi bjilakshakshi, lyo zhba lyishxazha, lyo izqe dzganme shashacharyoba thamzha blyexshi dzal, lyo chiham gqorxalim hamblyex, taxnim chubisha zdura du qabquqza namphash. Dzgama henmxapshe gorshi zdura zha pheshtenim gqamrinim churegats, chusqats, chuphazhich, tomqazhdiryoba chuphotsluxts. swa...
by Nortaneous
Tue Aug 01, 2023 8:05 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Pronunciation of Standard English in America (1919)
Replies: 144
Views: 336188

Re: Pronunciation of Standard English in America (1919)

/ɑl/ is generally from earlier /ɒl/ (incl. in cauliflower /kʰɑlɨflæwər/) or recent loans (Kali Yuga /kʰɑlɨj juwgə/) - almond has /ɔlm-/ (which can be [ɔˁm-] even for people who don't generally have l-vocalization)
by Nortaneous
Mon Jul 24, 2023 7:21 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
Replies: 988
Views: 488311

Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0

[p t tʃ k q m n ɲ ŋ ɮ j] <p t c k q m n ñ ŋ l y> [β ɾ s χ ʁ] <v r s q q> [mb nd ɲɟ ŋg] <mb nd ñj ŋg> /qenap it͡ʃitunːaʃ ɮopen nakːapan neqin choːjuk opekːaɲːeːjiːn keŋeŋ/ [q͡χenapʰ iʃiɾunːaʃ ɮoβen nakːaβan neʁin t͡ʃoːjukʰ oβekːaɲːeːjiːnᵈ keŋeŋᵍ] Qenap isirunnas loven nakkavan neqin cōyuk ovekkaññēyi...
by Nortaneous
Mon Jul 17, 2023 7:43 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
Replies: 988
Views: 488311

Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0

Code: Select all

    a e i u
p/b p b v w 
t/d t d j f
k/g k g c q 
s/h s z $ h 
ʃ/r x r y l 
 0  a e i u 
fortis: _o
nasal: _m
-r -n -s = -: -n -'

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by Nortaneous
Sun Jul 16, 2023 10:52 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: The Allosphere
Replies: 86
Views: 87553

Re: The Allosphere

Conserved words in Vengic: Ziwan GHlu BHlu Thing Zot Narng Qoa What mother mòmò mɤ mɤr mɚ˥ mblu˩ mār mɔːrə mia: father rùtɔ̀ ɔl al að˥ ðɛ˥ āθə atːə ʔet brother rùndà yəmɔn ɲwan myan˩˥ ʉ̃˩ žōməna ðumanaː lmliː sister ɗin ɗin ten˥ nɛ˥˩ tēna teːna tliː man yɤ yɤr yir˥ lɛ˩ žōrə ðurːə lua: fire mbí mɔl m...
by Nortaneous
Sun Jul 16, 2023 7:58 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
Replies: 988
Views: 488311

Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0

i do not respect the french /p b t d k g/ <p b t d k g> /f v ð s z ʃ ʒ/ <f v ð ß s sch zsch> /m n ɲ/ <m n nj> /l r j ɥ w/ <l r j jü w> /a ɛ ɐ o i y u ɑ̃ ɛ̃ ẽ ø̃/ <a e ö o i ü u ang eng ing öng> Önn Arlvee l Eete paase i ave önn Kupj dee Mohv de Gråå Nee k ehte a lüh rpooðe süü la Grev dang la Bee d ...
by Nortaneous
Sat Jul 15, 2023 11:57 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
Replies: 988
Views: 488311

Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0

/p b t d k g/ <p b t d k g> /f v ð s z ʃ ʒ/ <f v th s z c j> /m n ɲ/ <m n ň> /l r j ɥ w/ <l r y ẅ w> /a ɛ ɐ (ɔ) o i y u ɑ̃ ɛ̃ ɔ̃ ẽ ø̃/ <a e ə o i ʉ u a eh oh ih əh> Əhn arlvē l ēte pāse y ave əh kupy dē mōv de Graō Nē k ēte a lʉ̄ rpōthe sʉ̄ la grev dah la beh d Seht Woh tkah i vīdr u prē d yə̄ əh ku...
by Nortaneous
Sat Jul 15, 2023 8:58 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
Replies: 988
Views: 488311

Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0

St Ouennais /p b t d k g/ /f v ð s z ʃ ʒ/ /m n ɲ/ /l r j ɥ w/ /a ɛ ɐ o i y u ɑ̃ ɛ̃ ẽ ø̃/ + length (ɐ = œ I think - œ is listed as a phoneme and ɐ isn't) ø̃n arlvɛː l ɛːtɛ paːsɛ j avɛ ø̃ kupj dɛː moːv dɛ grɔː nɛː k ɛːtɛ a lyː rpoːðɛ syː la grɛv dɑ̃ la bɛ̃ d sɛ̃t wɔ̃ tkɑ̃ i viːdr u prɛː d jɐː ø̃ kupj ...
by Nortaneous
Sat Jul 15, 2023 8:00 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
Replies: 988
Views: 488311

Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0

/kʼalta idi:m/ /t ʈ k/ <t ṭ k> /tʼ kʼ ʔ/ <tʼ kʼ ḥ> /b d ɖ ʤ ɡ/ <b d ḍ j g> /m n ɲ/ <m n ń> /n̥/ <nʼ> /s ʃ/ <s ś> /ɬ ɽ̊/ <lʼ rʼ> /w l (ɻ) ɽ j/ <w l (rr) r y> /i u a/ <i u a> /iː uː aː/ <ī ū ā> (/e o/) <e o> /ja:kasti iniʃambiʤa baɬkinu tʼaminwalatabi || na:ʃagda idatabi wala ɲanta: ijuʔbiʤa ji:ʈamgi:...
by Nortaneous
Sun Jul 09, 2023 12:54 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: English questions
Replies: 1412
Views: 462914

Re: English questions

(or are there varieties where the vowel quality of PALM and START is different and they're not just distinguished by the /r/?) Yes - for me the onset of START is closer to THOUGHT than to PALM. Anyway, my point was that, even if you learn these rules and tendencies, when it comes to monosyllabic wo...
by Nortaneous
Sun Jun 18, 2023 11:16 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Pronunciation of Standard English in America (1919)
Replies: 144
Views: 336188

Re: Pronunciation of Standard English in America (1919)

After all this is applied, then the vowels' lengths are further conditioned by stress, word length, and like. Note that I normally would analyze "short vowels" after consonants and before other vowels as actually /j w/, considering that their distribution is not really predictable (i.e. w...
by Nortaneous
Wed Jun 14, 2023 12:47 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 1782
Views: 4953220

Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread

idempotent
by Nortaneous
Mon Jun 12, 2023 8:18 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4747
Views: 2138934

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

Fieldnotes, so low confidence. May be worth seeing if there's anything to supplement this in Laycock's Ninggera notes on PARADISEC... This has some Ninggera material. What are <p̃ b̃>? (in e.g. p̃wusɛm 'night', wimb̃inis 'sand', b̃u 'water', eyomp̃w ) I could believe *mbu *mbuV > (ᵐ)bu (ᵐ)bV - or ev...
by Nortaneous
Sat Jun 10, 2023 4:25 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: The Allosphere
Replies: 86
Views: 87553

Re: The Allosphere

Pnwq maercae dỳg ʼeemfrks tʼenggihʼ zahlks. [pʰnɯχ mæɹɣæ dʕəɣ ʔeɛmɸ˞ə̆ɺə̆ks tʼeɪŋgiʔ zaɬks] pʰnɯχ m-aer-ɣE=dʕəɣ ʔeɛ<m>ɸ-r-k-s tʼeɪ-ŋ-giʔ zaɬk-s heaven PRES-CONT-VEN=<3O>bear good<INDEF>-CAUS-COLL.INAN-ACC man-COLL.ANIM-BEN many-ACC Tʼeng twmzwcdw qʼvlfi nà pnwgqihʼ. [tʼeɪŋ tɯmzɯɣdɯ qʼl̩ʷɸi nʕa pʰnɯ...