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by Nortaneous
Wed Oct 25, 2023 8:07 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Innovative Usage Thread
Replies: 572
Views: 666607

Re: Innovative Usage Thread

Are there people who say [bʊf] for "boof", [fʊf] for "foof", [pʊf] for "poof", or [lʊfə] for "loofah"? Australian English has /bʊf/ "clumsy/stupid person" and /pʊf/ "gay man", but those probably aren't the words you have in mind. /buːf/ &q...
by Nortaneous
Tue Oct 17, 2023 9:01 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4747
Views: 2139132

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

Do we have any examples of languages in which conjugation for person has been lost in all but one or a few very common verbs? I'm imagining a situation where the copula, for example, still distinguishes person such that the subject pronoun can be dropped, but all or nearly all other verbs require t...
by Nortaneous
Sat Oct 14, 2023 7:09 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4747
Views: 2139132

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

For /tɬ/ without /ɬ/, PHOIBLE has Nahuatl, Wintu, and Squamish, and IPHON has Bawm. Wintu and Squamish look dubious, but Nahuatl is a known case. Reichle 1981 agrees that Bawm doesn't have /ɬ/, but analyzes <tl thl> as the only clusters in the language, which seems silly - why not unit /tɬ tɬʰ/?
by Nortaneous
Sat Oct 14, 2023 4:55 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conlang fluency thread
Replies: 2559
Views: 1503869

Re: Conlang fluency thread

Lemme guess - alternate history Germanic-lang? The combination of features it has makes it not likely to be descended from any extant Germanic language. English expands earlier and is displaced by French in the Norman Conquest, leaving the present day with a variety of Anglic minority languages, su...
by Nortaneous
Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:21 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conlang fluency thread
Replies: 2559
Views: 1503869

Re: Conlang fluency thread

The tjâud vunter es niâch, oa snoubloys sjouw komme. Kom in my veurrem ûs, my vrêun. Velkom! Kom thê fuyr, sing en douns, uyt en drink. That is my plan. V'au votter, biôr, ən meullek nîew ef the kuw. Ai, en at sûp. [ðə tʃæu̯d vʊntər əs njæːx, ə znɔu̯bləi̯s ʃɔu̯ kɔmə || kɔm ɪn mi vʌrəm uːs mi vrʌːn ...
by Nortaneous
Fri Oct 13, 2023 7:53 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Innovative Usage Thread
Replies: 572
Views: 666607

Re: Innovative Usage Thread

[fluːf], [hʊf], [ruːf] for me. I wouldn't have predicted the existence of [flʊf]. Are there people who say [bʊf] for "boof", [fʊf] for "foof", [pʊf] for "poof", or [lʊfə] for "loofah"?
by Nortaneous
Thu Oct 12, 2023 12:07 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4747
Views: 2139132

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

Starostin isn't Nyland, but neither are Ehret or Proulx. There's a difference between bad linguists and cranks. I don't even know that I'd call Ruhlen a crank. (Gell-Mann tho, absolutely.) Blevins has been arguing for Indo-Vasconic for years, but I don't see any reason to hold her comparative work i...
by Nortaneous
Mon Oct 09, 2023 7:18 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 1782
Views: 4953312

Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread

poor boor moor: /por bor mor/
to pour: /por/
tour: /tor/
tourist: either /ˈtorɪst/ or /ˈtɚɪst/, not sure at this point
tournament: /ˈtɚnəmɨnt/
tourniquet /ˈtɚnɨkɨt/
Tourette syndrome /tərˈɛt/

paths/truths -θs although /pæðz/ is correct
by Nortaneous
Sun Oct 01, 2023 10:37 pm
Forum: End Matter
Topic: Russian
Replies: 15
Views: 3375

Re: Russian

Darren wrote: Sun Oct 01, 2023 8:26 pm
Nortaneous wrote: Sun Oct 01, 2023 7:55 pm Stieber 1973, A Historical Phonology of the Polish Language
Would you be able to post a full list of changes?
I'm working on Albanian but can try to get Polish after that
by Nortaneous
Sun Oct 01, 2023 7:55 pm
Forum: End Matter
Topic: Russian
Replies: 15
Views: 3375

Re: Russian

Darren wrote: Sun Oct 01, 2023 7:33 pm Would you happen to have any good sources on Polish changes? There's definitely some good data out there but nothing afaict online.
Stieber 1973, A Historical Phonology of the Polish Language
by Nortaneous
Sun Oct 01, 2023 6:25 pm
Forum: End Matter
Topic: Russian
Replies: 15
Views: 3375

Re: Russian

Darren wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:00 am - *ę ǫ become /ɛ̃ ɔ̃/ in Polish
In a sense, yes; in a sense, no. They merge as Middle Polish ø, then short and long ø become /ɛ̃ ɔ̃/.
by Nortaneous
Sun Oct 01, 2023 6:19 pm
Forum: End Matter
Topic: Polynesian
Replies: 15
Views: 3808

Re: Polynesian

Speaking of Rennellese, Elbert's 1988 grammar has some sound changes for the Rennell and Bellona dialects. Segments: <p t k '> /p t̪ k ʔ/ <g> /ŋg/ <b s gh h> /β ʃ ɣ h/ (/s/ is a "voiceless alveo-palatal fricative") <m n ng> /m n̪ ŋ/ <l> /l/ (presumably from earlier *ð, since in the first w...
by Nortaneous
Sat Sep 30, 2023 1:20 am
Forum: End Matter
Topic: Polynesian
Replies: 15
Views: 3808

Re: Polynesian

bradrn wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2023 9:31 am
Nortaneous wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2023 9:09 am Rennellese 'orthographic g' is [ŋg].
Reference please?
Biggs 1978, p. 12
by Nortaneous
Fri Sep 29, 2023 9:09 am
Forum: End Matter
Topic: Polynesian
Replies: 15
Views: 3808

Re: Polynesian

Rennellese 'orthographic g' is [ŋg]. "Luangia" should be "Luangiua". What about palatalization? - t > č > s / _i in Tongan - t > s / _i in Pileni - t > č / _i in "East Futunan and the Aniwan dialect of Futuna-Aniwa" - t > ʃ / _i in the Futunan dialect of West Futunan
by Nortaneous
Thu Sep 14, 2023 11:22 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4747
Views: 2139132

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

I note that it's undecided whether they need a preceding glottal stop character at the start of a word. Is there something funny or incomplete about the requirement for a Qiang word to start with a consonant? Or perhaps they have contrastive word-initial glottal stop? (Not that I’d know anything ab...
by Nortaneous
Thu Sep 14, 2023 10:03 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 1782
Views: 4953312

Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread

miracle /mirəkəl/ [miɚ̯əkɫ]
illustrate /iləstrejt/ [ɪɫəstɹe(ɪ̯)ˀ(t)]
irritate /irɨtejt/ [ˈiɚ̯ɪteɪ̯ˀ(t)]
South Africa /sæwθˈæfrɨkə/ [sæɜ̯θ ˈæ̠fɹɪkə]
by Nortaneous
Wed Sep 13, 2023 10:14 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
Replies: 988
Views: 488347

Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0

could do Gwoyeu Romatzyh /p b mb pɕ bʑ mbʑ t̪ d̪ nd̪ ts dz ndz tʂ dʐ ndʐ tɕ dʑ ndʑ k g ŋg/ <p b mb pi bi mbi t d nd ts tz ndz ch j nj chi ji nji k g ngg> /f s ʂ ɕ x/ <f s sh shi h> /m n̪ n ɲ ŋ/ <m n nh ni ng> /a ɒ e ə o i u ɿ v̩/ <a au ie e ue i u z v> ˧: basic form ˩: i u -> y w / z v -> zi vu / -r...
by Nortaneous
Wed Sep 13, 2023 8:02 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
Replies: 988
Views: 488347

Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0

the council is discussing the representation of tone /p b mb pɕ bʑ mbʑ t̪ d̪ nd̪ tʂ dʐ ndʐ tɕ dʑ ndʑ k g ŋg/ <p b mb psh bzh mbzh t d nd tr dr ndr ch j nj k g ng> /f s ʂ ɕ x/ <f s shr sh h> /m n̪ n ɲ ŋ/ <m n nn ny ngʼ> /a ɒ e ə o i u ɿ v̩/ <a au e/ie e o i u ze vu> + [ʅ] <er> (allophone of /ɿ/ after...
by Nortaneous
Sun Sep 10, 2023 12:16 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: What do you call ...
Replies: 413
Views: 1021260

Re: What do you call ...

KathTheDragon wrote: Sun Sep 10, 2023 5:30 am "mariguana"
It evolves from Bongecko starting at level 24 and into Marleyzard when exposed to a Leaf Stone.
by Nortaneous
Sun Sep 03, 2023 9:10 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
Replies: 988
Views: 488347

Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0

/p t ʃ~tʃ~tʲ k kʷ q/ <p t s k kw c> /mb nd ndʒ ŋg ŋgʷ ɴɢ/ <bb dd jj gg ggu hh> /β l̪ ɽ~ɺ ɣ w ʁ/ <b d j g w h> /m n ɲ ŋ ŋʷ ɴ/ <m n ni ng ngw nh> /j/ <y> /a ɛ ɔ e (ᵊ) o i u/ <a x q e z o i u> /aː ɛː ɔː eː oː iː uː/ <al xl ql el ol il ul> /aβeʁ timu ja nᵊndo βu ndʒen || aɽe nᵊmbe pariːq | ma ɽᵊɣa ma in...