Name That Language!

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Birdlang
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It does remind me of something from PNG. Is it something from PNG or Papua Indonesia?

It’s not Kâte or Melpa, right?
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Frislander wrote: Sat Apr 25, 2020 7:01 amRamu?
Karch already said:
Karch wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:07 pm It is indeed a Papuan language, but it isn't in the Sepik nor in the Lower Sepik-Ramu family.
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Is it a Trans-Fly language?
Karch
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It is spoken in Papua New Guinea, but it isn't a Trans-Fly language.
Zpaf kkuñb ñvneahttiñ wqxirftvn meof ñfañhsit.
Kkuñb ñvzxirf kvtañb kkuñf ñtmeaq sfañkqeanth.
Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq.
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Is it spoken near the Sepik at all?
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Frislander wrote: Sun Apr 26, 2020 11:19 am Is it spoken near the Sepik at all?
I became curious enough about what this language was to Google it, and I did find it easily. (I promise I won’t tell anyone until they guess it independently!) So I can confirm: yes, it is spoken near the Sepik.
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Yes, it is indeed spoken near the Sepik.
Zpaf kkuñb ñvneahttiñ wqxirftvn meof ñfañhsit.
Kkuñb ñvzxirf kvtañb kkuñf ñtmeaq sfañkqeanth.
Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq.
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OK, it's near the Sepik, in Papua New Guinea, but it's not TNG, Sepik or Lower Sepik-Ramu, and it doesn't seem Toricelli or Yuat to me, that's not as many options left, so I'm going to say Taiap?
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Frislander wrote: Fri May 01, 2020 6:47 am OK, it's near the Sepik, in Papua New Guinea, but it's not TNG, Sepik or Lower Sepik-Ramu, and it doesn't seem Toricelli or Yuat to me, that's not as many options left, so I'm going to say Taiap?
When I searched for that text on Google, I also got Tayap. So I’m pretty sure that’s correct (although I’d like Karch to confirm that properly).
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It is indeed Tayap!
Zpaf kkuñb ñvneahttiñ wqxirftvn meof ñfañhsit.
Kkuñb ñvzxirf kvtañb kkuñf ñtmeaq sfañkqeanth.
Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq.
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Next language.
Ŋinŋangurra. Djan yiŋi njubanjiŋa njubanjiŋa. Yaːye guwe ŋaː waːrreyu. Yanmenji guwe. Waːrrenji gawa garinji. Yaːyi gari yoːrr yanme. Yoːrr yanmenji guwe badji djandu baːnji. Baːnji badji gan bam gamŋenji. Yuː nala yiŋi. Yuːyi guwe njowaganbama, 'Daduŋa gaː goromŋana. Wambawu guwe ŋay wawu.' Wayi guwe maːnji guwe mana gaŋa. Maːnji bayel guwe yoː maːnji gugunde. Yaːyi guwe, 'Ganma badjana.' Ganma bumni yunaenge. 'Ŋadju gana bumgu.' Bunmayi ŋandayi biyenji. Badjana bunmayi biyenji badjana. Waga guwe njaŋi. Yuː biː gariŋi. Biː yiyan guwe moː badjaru. Njaŋi guwe biː yiyana. Yiyan guwe. Yoː maːn mana gugunde maː. Bunman diyeŋ buŋundan. Buman biyan guwe.
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Frislander wrote: Fri May 01, 2020 5:08 pm Next language.
Ŋinŋangurra. Djan yiŋi njubanjiŋa njubanjiŋa. Yaːye guwe ŋaː waːrreyu. Yanmenji guwe. Waːrrenji gawa garinji. Yaːyi gari yoːrr yanme. Yoːrr yanmenji guwe badji djandu baːnji. Baːnji badji gan bam gamŋenji. Yuː nala yiŋi. Yuːyi guwe njowaganbama, 'Daduŋa gaː goromŋana. Wambawu guwe ŋay wawu.' Wayi guwe maːnji guwe mana gaŋa. Maːnji bayel guwe yoː maːnji gugunde. Yaːyi guwe, 'Ganma badjana.' Ganma bumni yunaenge. 'Ŋadju gana bumgu.' Bunmayi ŋandayi biyenji. Badjana bunmayi biyenji badjana. Waga guwe njaŋi. Yuː biː gariŋi. Biː yiyan guwe moː badjaru. Njaŋi guwe biː yiyana. Yiyan guwe. Yoː maːn mana gugunde maː. Bunman diyeŋ buŋundan. Buman biyan guwe.
Is it Australian?
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~13 consonants, 5 vowels + length. PHOIBLE has very good coverage of Australia. Waka-Kabic? (Duuŋidjawu?)
Duaj teibohnggoe kyoe' quaqtoeq lucj lhaj k'yoejdej noeyn tucj.
K'yoejdaq fohm q'ujdoe duaj teibohnggoen dlehq lucj.
Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq.
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Nortaneous wrote: Fri May 01, 2020 8:17 pm ~13 consonants, 5 vowels + length. PHOIBLE has very good coverage of Australia. Waka-Kabic? (Duuŋidjawu?)
Just looking at a Duuŋidjawu grammar now, and I agree that the phonology fits. But the grammar also has lots of sample texts, the first one of which is identical to Frislander’s given text (except for one letter which is probably a typo in Frislander’s post), so I’m going to say that that this is definitely Duuŋidjawu.
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OK, next language. (If there's any more traditional orthography, it's not given in the source.)

ʔwoʔ ka naʔɢaʔa ka ʔalo riʔλiwi ke aka leʔya. nata neʔya na moqoyt leʔya waɢayaq. kaʔ leʔya ka yale yawo:take retaɢayaʔpeʔ ka ʔalo. qam yawoːntakoʔ ka ʔalo. qam ka yale renataɢantakoʔ, lakyoʔ ka ʔmaɢare retaɢayapegeʔ ʔaloʔλiʔ. qam ka ʔalo naqayažin ka yale. na:koʔ maʔlepe wi:čiroʔ qam lasom lai sowe:taʔñoʔ, wi:čiroʔ setaɢayaɢatoʔ ke lasom lasom ñiyaʔaʔ. kaʔ ka yale peʔe:toʔ ʔkeoʔ.
Duaj teibohnggoe kyoe' quaqtoeq lucj lhaj k'yoejdej noeyn tucj.
K'yoejdaq fohm q'ujdoe duaj teibohnggoen dlehq lucj.
Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq.
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Nortaneous wrote: Sat May 02, 2020 1:52 am OK, next language. (If there's any more traditional orthography, it's not given in the source.)

ʔwoʔ ka naʔɢaʔa ka ʔalo riʔλiwi ke aka leʔya. nata neʔya na moqoyt leʔya waɢayaq. kaʔ leʔya ka yale yawo:take retaɢayaʔpeʔ ka ʔalo. qam yawoːntakoʔ ka ʔalo. qam ka yale renataɢantakoʔ, lakyoʔ ka ʔmaɢare retaɢayapegeʔ ʔaloʔλiʔ. qam ka ʔalo naqayažin ka yale. na:koʔ maʔlepe wi:čiroʔ qam lasom lai sowe:taʔñoʔ, wi:čiroʔ setaɢayaɢatoʔ ke lasom lasom ñiyaʔaʔ. kaʔ ka yale peʔe:toʔ ʔkeoʔ.
What do ⟨q ɢ ñ λ č y⟩ represent? I’m guessing /q ɢ ɲ d͡ɮ t͡ʃ j/, respectively.
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bradrn wrote: Sat May 02, 2020 2:30 am What do ⟨q ɢ ñ λ č y⟩ represent? I’m guessing /q ɢ ɲ d͡ɮ t͡ʃ j/, respectively.
lambda is a palatal lateral, I suspect typographic difficulties
Duaj teibohnggoe kyoe' quaqtoeq lucj lhaj k'yoejdej noeyn tucj.
K'yoejdaq fohm q'ujdoe duaj teibohnggoen dlehq lucj.
Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq.
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Nortaneous wrote: Sat May 02, 2020 1:52 am OK, next language. (If there's any more traditional orthography, it's not given in the source.)

ʔwoʔ ka naʔɢaʔa ka ʔalo riʔλiwi ke aka leʔya. nata neʔya na moqoyt leʔya waɢayaq. kaʔ leʔya ka yale yawo:take retaɢayaʔpeʔ ka ʔalo. qam yawoːntakoʔ ka ʔalo. qam ka yale renataɢantakoʔ, lakyoʔ ka ʔmaɢare retaɢayapegeʔ ʔaloʔλiʔ. qam ka ʔalo naqayažin ka yale. na:koʔ maʔlepe wi:čiroʔ qam lasom lai sowe:taʔñoʔ, wi:čiroʔ setaɢayaɢatoʔ ke lasom lasom ñiyaʔaʔ. kaʔ ka yale peʔe:toʔ ʔkeoʔ.
Wait, I’ve just noticed something really weird about this text. It has lots of ⟨ɢ⟩, but only one ⟨g⟩, which strains credibility if they have their IPA values. Are you sure you transcribed this correctly? Or does one of ⟨ɢ g⟩ not have its IPA values here? Or does this text genuinely have lots of /ɢ/ but only one /ɡ/?
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Re: Name That Language!

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Wow Good Lord Nort that was flipping clinical that was. Probably shouldn't have chosen a language with such a distinctive vowel system on its neighbours...

Anyhow, for this one let's see, voicing contrast in uvulars, only four vowels. Is it spoken on the Pampas?
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