Zompist Bboard Again

Beginning to add the Iroquoian changes from Julian's A History of the Iroquoian languages (University of Manitoba 2010), they were already collected in the old Index but it shouldn't hurt to compile them again from the source.

On page 13 Julian says "my model of subgrouping, in particular my position that Proto-Lake Iroquoian and Proto-Five Nations are formally indistinguishable from Proto-Northern Iroquoian itself, is not a consensus in the field." Did that change? His model is the one used on Glottolog.

Posting this from the Linguistic Miscellany Thread…

Per A grammar and dictionary of Gayogo̱hó:nǫˀ (Cayuga):

Dyck, Froman, Keye & Keye (2024) wrote:SR – as in węhnihSRí:yo: ‘nice day’ – sounds like the SHR [ʃɹ] in shrink. Some speakers pronounce SR as FR [fɹ] instead, for example in words like ganǫ́hkwasraˀ (ganǫ́hkwaFRaˀ) ‘love’. SR syllabifies as two separate consonants, [ʃ.ɹ] or [f.ɹ].

There’s more I’ve yet to read through, but this stuck out to me.

This led me to notice that Chafe’s 2015 grammar of Seneca has a nice list of sound changes from Proto-Iroquoian to Seneca. I’ll have to write that up sometime.