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by Vardelm
Wed Mar 30, 2022 2:05 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Re: Vardelm's Scratchpad (NP: Devani OVS order)
Replies: 252
Views: 220313

Re: Vardelm's Scratchpad (NP: Jin Active Stative Issue)

I’m thinking, could this perhaps work? lazhi-nza ak'iju-un-i qam magawa ja tumbu-wi That way, ‘sit’ gets the person as its agent and the chair as its patient, while ‘break’ gets the chair as its patient. This is how most languages with SVCs do it. For the way that I have Jin structured right now, n...
by Vardelm
Tue Mar 29, 2022 7:39 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Re: Vardelm's Scratchpad (NP: Devani OVS order)
Replies: 252
Views: 220313

Re: Vardelm's Scratchpad (NP: Jin Active Stative Issue)

I’m not entirely sure I understand… so how would you translate that sentence now? That will probably be answered in the next post I'm planning. For now, that Jin sentence is just ungrammatical (according to the updated rules I posted) so it would just be formed a little different. Yes, you are corr...
by Vardelm
Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:16 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Re: Vardelm's Scratchpad (NP: Devani OVS order)
Replies: 252
Views: 220313

Re: Vardelm's Scratchpad (NP: Jin Active Stative Issue)

Funny, I could have sworn I already wrote and sent a reply to the post before this… should I be worried? It just gets worse with time. Wait until you're really old.... like 30. :D I’m not sure I understand. Does this mean you’re sticking with the below-quoted system? Note that the above current ver...
by Vardelm
Mon Mar 28, 2022 10:41 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Re: Vardelm's Scratchpad (NP: Devani OVS order)
Replies: 252
Views: 220313

Re: Vardelm's Scratchpad (NP: Jin Active Stative Issue)

Jin: Active vs Stative Issue round 2 After some more thinking, I don't like the structure where you could use a verb with active direct voice and then a stative indirect voice and the arguments would simply be reversed for one of them. It's complicated, ugly, & doesn't seem natural. Also, after...
by Vardelm
Fri Mar 25, 2022 5:41 pm
Forum: Ephemera
Topic: Venting thread
Replies: 1923
Views: 15028256

Re: Venting thread

On Monday I found water under the water heater. Service guy came this morning. We now have a new water heater. Showered this afternoon. Water in the shower didn't drain and I stepped out onto a floor covered in water. Will now be trying to snake the drain and probably then calling a plumber when it ...
by Vardelm
Tue Mar 22, 2022 1:25 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Re: Vardelm's Scratchpad (NP: Devani OVS order)
Replies: 252
Views: 220313

Re: Vardelm's Scratchpad (NP: Jin Active Stative Issue)

Ah, so Jin now has Austronesian alignment! (Or at least, as near as makes no difference. It’s only slightly more elaborate than the split-S system of Indonesian-type languages.) Not on purpose! :lol: Now that I look at both the current and new systems for the inverse voice, I can see where it could...
by Vardelm
Mon Mar 21, 2022 10:07 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Re: Vardelm's Scratchpad (NP: Devani OVS order)
Replies: 252
Views: 220313

Re: Vardelm's Scratchpad (NP: Jin Active Stative Issue)

After thinking about how to handle the examples, I had an idea to modify Jin's inverse and passive voices (both the active and stative versions of each). This is the current system: Active Direct: ak'ijuqawi qam magawa ja tumbuwi ak'iju-qa-wi qam ndalu-wi ja tumbu-wi The man broke the chair. Active ...
by Vardelm
Sat Mar 19, 2022 9:24 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Re: Vardelm's Scratchpad (NP: Devani OVS order)
Replies: 252
Views: 220313

Re: Vardelm's Scratchpad (NP: Jin Active Stative Issue)

sambiwi ja haququni sambi-wi ja haqu-qun-i The one that steals (things) is running. The thief is running. I haven’t read through the whole post yet, but are you sure this translation is correct? I think it should be The thief is a boy . Yep, thanks for the catch. Doing too much copy/pasting and was...
by Vardelm
Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:48 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Re: Vardelm's Scratchpad (NP: Devani OVS order)
Replies: 252
Views: 220313

Re: Vardelm's Scratchpad (NP: Jin Active Stative Issue)

Jin: Active vs Stative Issue I've run into a bit of an issue in Jin using both active and stative verbs in the predicate. It's a matter of whether the verbs are requiring active or stative arguments and in what order. buc'adi qam sambiwi buc'ad-i qam sambi-wi The boy is running. sambi ja haququni s...
by Vardelm
Thu Mar 10, 2022 8:59 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: glossing abbreviations list
Replies: 10
Views: 5056

Re: glossing abbreviations list

Also, because two of my conlangs have initial consonant mutations I use the MUT-\ to show it. The dash is followed by S, A, N, or L for soft, aspirate, nasal, and liquid , but that's very specific for my own needs, I think. A gloss with MUT-S\wolf.sngv would therefore show that the word for 'wolf' ...
by Vardelm
Mon Feb 28, 2022 1:10 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Kala updates etc.
Replies: 169
Views: 105999

Re: Kala updates etc.

I'm a man of my word: https://tinyurl.com/57ekvzzx (PDF) I sent out about 20-25 links for beta readers, only got feedback from about 5 people, so I'm gonna keep revising and updating as time goes, but this is it, for now. Looking good. I checked against the list I sent and everything I found reads ...
by Vardelm
Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:25 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: kskʼɩroijø̂u — an antilanguage
Replies: 8
Views: 7712

Re: kskʼɩroijø̂u — an antilanguage

Finally getting around to going through this... Like many conlangers, my languages can suffer from some amount of… how should I put it? monotony of style. This thread is an experiment: to produce an antilanguage with as many features as possible which I haven’t used before. To do this in a systemati...
by Vardelm
Tue Feb 22, 2022 6:38 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: English: relative clauses describing pronouns
Replies: 15
Views: 5665

Re: English: relative clauses describing pronouns

To me any of the personal pronouns followed by a relative clause sound archaic. Yeah, I agree. I wondered if maybe "it which" or "it that" might have been grammatical at one point, but has completely phased out. "He who initiated the Zoom call can mute the others." Thi...
by Vardelm
Tue Feb 22, 2022 3:37 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: English: relative clauses describing pronouns
Replies: 15
Views: 5665

English: relative clauses describing pronouns

Can a relative clause ever modify the pronoun "it" in English? It that quacks like a duck... It which quacks like a duck... Other pronouns aren't an issue. It just struck me that "it" is different. I look at those examples and think "that SHOULD be OK, but it just ain't!"
by Vardelm
Mon Feb 21, 2022 3:58 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: glossing abbreviations list
Replies: 10
Views: 5056

Re: glossing abbreviations list

Travis B. wrote: Mon Feb 21, 2022 3:38 pm Somehow I feel that a mention of the Leipzig glossing rules would not be out of place here.
Indeed, it would not!

I'll go through their list to see how far off I am, but a quick scan is triggering that OCD bit in me. :)
by Vardelm
Mon Feb 21, 2022 3:30 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: glossing abbreviations list
Replies: 10
Views: 5056

glossing abbreviations list

I don't know if anyone will find this useful or even interesting, but I created a list of terms used in glossing with an abbreviation for each. The original file is here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQtGs7TLxoBkABSuI6lRfuds8vKSmHgKfK4fG53qxdXj7XwLyvivL8ykOXvki2w7vGb9OBwKVtgdx1h/p...
by Vardelm
Wed Feb 16, 2022 8:33 pm
Forum: Ephemera
Topic: Happy things thread!
Replies: 1211
Views: 716462

Re: Happy things thread!

I've been starting to learn coding for WebGL, specifically through tutorials for BabylonJS, which is an engine that uses Javascript to drive the graphics. I'm working towards being able to create 3D experiences for products (mostly automotive). My company does a little bit of this and is pushing to ...
by Vardelm
Mon Feb 14, 2022 10:54 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Frequent Mistake's in diver's Language's
Replies: 19
Views: 8672

Re: Frequent Mistake's in diver's Language's

zompist wrote: Mon Feb 14, 2022 10:32 am ...may lead to the overgeneralization insightful application of using it with acronyms too.
Fix't. ;)

Estav wrote: Mon Feb 14, 2022 10:52 am I think apostrophes are especially likely to be seen when the period is included, as in “P.C.’s” rather than “P.C.s”.
Yeah, that would be my sense of how it works as well.
by Vardelm
Mon Feb 14, 2022 8:57 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Frequent Mistake's in diver's Language's
Replies: 19
Views: 8672

Re: Frequent Mistake's in diver's Language's

I'm not sure what the "rules" are in my own head exactly, but I have an urge to add an apostrophe for some plurals. I think it's maybe acronyms or words that usually aren't plural, but even there it's a limited set. An example might be PC's for "personal computers", not "per...
by Vardelm
Sun Feb 06, 2022 5:50 pm
Forum: Ephemera
Topic: United States Politics Thread 46
Replies: 1424
Views: 445330

Re: United States Politics Thread 46

Moose-tache wrote: Sun Feb 06, 2022 4:57 pm From Twitter, regarding the recent enthusiasm for censorship: "Tennessee is just closing the loop: authors turn abstract ideas into books; Tennessee turns books into abstract ideas."
That could go on the ZBB quote thread, but it's not a quote from a member, so...