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- Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:51 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: English questions
- Replies: 1406
- Views: 449496
Re: English questions
I'm a bit confused about how written English handles quotes within quotes. In German , it's pretty simple - the outer quotes are marked by quotation marks, and the inner quotes are marked by apostrophes: "Und dann sagte er: 'Das kann ich nicht machen!'" But in English, I'm pretty sure I r...
- Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:30 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Innovative Usage Thread
- Replies: 556
- Views: 661964
Re: Innovative Usage Thread
Why did you highlight "just a bit plain weird" too? There's nothing off with that, is there? The form I'm used to is "just a plain bit weird" myself. And I feel like the most natural order for me might be "a bit just plain weird"... but I think sounds a little odd to u...
- Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:57 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Dravidian and Australian languages
- Replies: 25
- Views: 25260
Re: Dravidian and Australian languages
Dravidian has more in common with Australian languages, phonologically, than just fricativelessness. In particular, it's lack of fricatives + a three-way dental/alveolar/retroflex contrast among coronals + nasals at every stop POA + lack of voicing contrast (at least for Proto-Dravidian) + a prepon...
- Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:46 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
- Replies: 1333
- Views: 822972
Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread
I feel like I read somewhere that there was some Germanic language in which (i-)umlaut only affected the stressed vowel, i.e. the stressed vowel assimilated to a following /i j/ but other vowels didn't. But I haven't been able to find it again. Does anybody have a source? Is there any Germanic lang...
- Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:35 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
- Replies: 1782
- Views: 4936276
- Sun Aug 30, 2020 7:08 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Pronunciations you had to unlearn
- Replies: 805
- Views: 540924
Re: Pronunciations you had to unlearn
and which can be argued to be an allophone of /i/ as it does not contrast with [ i] or [j] as long as syllabification is treated as contrastive: Do you happen to know of discussions of this contrastive syllabification? I recently had an argument with someone who insisted I was making up this analys...
- Sun Aug 30, 2020 5:42 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Pronunciations you had to unlearn
- Replies: 805
- Views: 540924
Re: Pronunciations you had to unlearn
Is Spanish ll generally pronounced as [j] then? It's pronounced the same as syllable-initial <y>, which is generally a bit more constricted than [j]. In some accents, it's something like [ʝ] or [ɟʝ], which might be in free variation with a more lenis [j] pronunciation, and which can be argued to be...
- Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:57 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Pronunciations you had to unlearn
- Replies: 805
- Views: 540924
Re: Pronunciations you had to unlearn
the traditional English pronunciation of Latin sepulc(h)rum should've been /sɪˈpʌlkɹəm/ Yes, and I'm pretty sure that is the traditional English pronunciation of "sepulc(h)rum". The English adjective "sepulchral" also has that stress pattern. It's just the pronunciation of the E...
- Sun Aug 23, 2020 2:22 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Pronunciations you had to unlearn
- Replies: 805
- Views: 540924
Re: Pronunciations you had to unlearn
I just learned that "sepulcher" is stressed on the initial rather than the second syllable. I'd been pronouncing it as /səˈpʌlkər/ rather than the correct /ˈsɛpəlkər/.
- Fri Jun 19, 2020 9:17 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
- Replies: 1782
- Views: 4936276
Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
For me: "Nearby" is a double-stressed word like "thirteen", etc. (See John Wells's blog post here .) It is accented on the last syllable in isolation and as the last word in a phrase; it can sound like it's accented on the first syllable (I think it could alternatively maybe be c...
- Tue Jun 16, 2020 4:25 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Pronunciations you had to unlearn
- Replies: 805
- Views: 540924
Re: Pronunciations you had to unlearn
I used to think augment was augument (like argument but with au instead of ar) and so on for related words.
- Fri Jun 12, 2020 2:25 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
- Replies: 4692
- Views: 2063794
Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
I've occasionally heard people use a preposition + which construction (does that have a name?) while also stranding the preposition at the end of the clause: "the store to which I went to", or something like that. But I recently heard someone say "the source from which it was influen...
- Thu Jun 11, 2020 3:42 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
- Replies: 4692
- Views: 2063794
Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
MWD sez: \ ˈfā-v(ə-)rə-ˌti-zəm, ˈfā-vər- \ AHD sez: (fā′vər-ĭ-tĭz′əm, fāv′rĭ-) It take it you pronounce "favourite" in three syllables as well? Neither of those shows a pronunciation that would regularly correspond to “favortism” with “rt” instead of “rit”. Unless you think that’s what MW...
- Sat Jun 06, 2020 5:41 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
- Replies: 4692
- Views: 2063794
Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
So Icelandic, Faroese, Greek, Latvian, and Lithuanian are the only modern IE languages to preserve the IE nominative singular -s, right? And the latter three are the only ones to preserve it as /s/? Curious that these are basically on the fringes of Europe (or at least IE-speaking Europe, with the ...
- Thu Jun 04, 2020 2:35 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Pronunciations you had to unlearn
- Replies: 805
- Views: 540924
Re: Pronunciations you had to unlearn
A general principle of English stress is that words don’t start with two fully unstressed syllables in a row. But fully unstressed syllables can pile up at the end—generative has three (at least it can for me—I reduce the a, I can flap the t and I don’t feel like the final syllable has to have an un...
- Sun May 24, 2020 6:13 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: How common are SAE features?
- Replies: 35
- Views: 17294
Re: How common are SAE features?
Personally I find the various uses of subject-verb inversion in English (especially old-fashioned modern English) to be the most amusing part of its grammar, including (especially including) the part of inserting "to do" as an auxiliary verb for all non-basic verbs if they don't have an a...
- Sun May 24, 2020 4:07 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Pronunciations you had to unlearn
- Replies: 805
- Views: 540924
Re: Pronunciations you had to unlearn
I find it surprising that Estav says height would be respected aside from happy cases where spelling patterns are similar, like a "short" vowel before doubled <bb>. The length of vowels in German names can often be inferred from the spelling, which mostly follows similar rules to English....
- Sat May 23, 2020 6:44 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Pronunciations you had to unlearn
- Replies: 805
- Views: 540924
Re: Pronunciations you had to unlearn
I still think it's a small miracle that John Boehner convinced the world to pronounce his name with /e/ instead of /o/. isn't that just the regular borrowing pattern for German front rounded vowels in the Midwest? what percentage of German immigrants to the US preserved front rounded vowels in the ...
- Sat May 16, 2020 1:56 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Germano-Latin update
- Replies: 16
- Views: 7766
Re: Germano-Latin update
I don't understand why it would be considered objectionable in the first place to use Classical Latin phonology as a starting point. For the purpose of sound changes, it's pretty much correct to take the phonological system of Classical Latin as a direct ancestor of modern Romance phonologies. Class...
- Mon May 11, 2020 3:16 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
- Replies: 1782
- Views: 4936276