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/pʰ tsʰ tʃʰ kʰ/ <p t c k>
[p m t n ɾ ɾ̃ tʃ ɲ k ŋ] <p m t n r n j ñ g ŋ>
/ts tɬ/ <z dl>
/f s ʃ ɬ x h/ <f s sh hl gh h>
/j w/ <y w>

/a e i o u/ <a e i o u> * <a aa ã ãã>

Proto-Vengic could use some work. Lexember 11-17: poka.t (xo-) to grind → Zzyxwqnp kə̄pə́ 'to mill', Hlu coɠæ (Bor pɤcɤrɠaβ ) 'surimi' vogha (xo-) to mash → Zzyxwqnp fə̀njə́ 'mashed tubers; poi', What mxypûhk 'fruit syrup' pidam malted barley; sorghum sugar; grain-derived sweetener → Zzyxwqnp pjí 'h...

/pa ta tʃa ka/ <ȹ x ç k> /pe te tʃe ke/ <w t ꜩ ꜭ> /pi ti tʃi ki/ <p ƚ c g> /po to tʃo ko/ <ꜿ z ꝿ ꝯ> /pu tu tʃu ku/ <b d ꟁ q> /f s x/ <f s j> /m n ɲ/ <m n v> /l ʝ/ <l y> /ɾ r/ <r ꞃ> /-n -l -r -s/ <ṽ v̠ ṿ v̈> Lö ꞃisomä wresẽx̃ una sona merïxmaƚk suȹpk̠, t zt se orijinã lö tubẹqlö meƚãt ũ ẽꝯrosamiẽz ꞃa...

Rm kül iṃkṃ voṃteṃ im̐ s̆ᵛr̈g. Vs̆t Sṃpeyṃ ddos suci. Sjmṃ Sṃpeyṃ rvuh. Kr̈s̈ Sṃpeyṃ ddos yiṃ bumi kdos̈ im̐ s̆ᵛr̈g. Rejeki kül km̐ sdiṃteṃ-diṃteṃ sukni diṃteṃ puniki mrim̐ kül. ʔṃbi puṃtṃ mrim̐ kül dos kül, kdos̈ kül puṃtṃ mrim̐ stuṃgil̈-tuṃgil̈ tiym̐ km̐ slḥ mrim̐ kül. ʔmi sṃpuṃ bek̈t kül im̐ per̈...

the more i learn about them, the more i feel that the divisions between alphabet/abjad/abugida/syllabary are too blurry to stand up to any real scrutiny I’d say that alphabet/abjad is quite blurry, as is abugida/syllabary, but the difference between those two supercategories is arguably quite usefu...

I think Nortaneous wins the prize for worst IE-lang orthography ever. holꝺ mıȝ béoꞃ Þͤ pbɐ̥tatå ꝭ ɑ̨́ ꞅꞇɑꞃchıȝ ƿꞃꝏꞇ vegətɐbᴉlḥ nātīuɐ 2 þͤ Ɐmericɐs þͭ ꝭ ꝯſũəd ælꞅƿ ɑ̨́ ſtapn̯lɐ ꝼꝏ́ꝺ ı̨ mɑ̨ıȝ ꝑtəs ꝼͦ þͤ ƿoꞃəlꝺ. Pbɐ̥tatåəs eɑꞃǫ tūƀs ꝼͦ þͤ plãt Solãũ tūbəꝛoſũ , ɑ̨́ ꝑeñ̇ɐlɐ ı̨ þͤ nıȝhꞇꞅháꝺ faṁl̇ȝ Solãa...

Also it seems that Central Asian food is generally easier to make (meat noodle soups, meat dumplings, plov, carrot salad) than even East Asian food without soy sauce or spices. That's not been my experience at all but we're probably thinking of different subsets of the various cuisines. The Central...

Travis B. wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 6:20 pm My daughter has [ɵ] for GOAT, as do I after coronals or /j/.

For me there's some kind of central vowel around labials - [pʰɹɵ̜vəɫɵ̜n] cheese, etc.

Travis B. wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 12:35 pm Does anyone else have [ɔʏ̯] for /ɔɪ/ in English, particularly if you are not a native German-speaker?

No, it's [oə̯] ~ [o̝i̯] and if I heard an actual [ɔʏ̯] I'm not sure I wouldn't map it to GOAT

kw > kpw
vowels lengthen in open stressed syllables

[ˈkpwaː.θa]
coaghna

"valley, fault"

except and accept are distinguished: [ɛkˈsɛpt] vs [ækˈsɛpt] Absence of vowel reduction in standard speech then would also explain Deseret, although IIRC there are cases where they used a vowel in an unstressed position that can only really be explained by orthographic influence. suggest is pronounc...

Iç dleins his vusçes ewrig dâ, iwn thê tnaws fat iç mein.
[ɨʒ dlɛ̃ĩ̯s ɨz vʊʃəz ɛu̯rɨtʃ dɑː ɪu̯n ðɛ tnɔːz fat ɨdʒ mɛ̃ĩ̯n]

Tseerkav mij siidâst ᴉlleäm. Ƨkɔɔȣl leäi de tɔ̃n-i c̰nne tseerkven ʞnɐ̤ss papp puätt. Tseerkav leäi tɔb Risttʞ̭əəddest. Ʇcben ſ̣ɐ̥tte kȣ ɯəəst ᴉlleäm tseerkav. Papp ʞnɐ̤ss pȣätt d̠c̰c̰zzid ꞁəbe veänttsɔ̃ɔ̃ttâm diɔ̃tt kåčča de ƨkɔɔȣlâst-i c̰nne. Ʇcsʇ leäi ɐte ƨkɔɔȣlâst tuâggd̠əɐ̤ꞁuu zɐ̤ɐ̤vesǩ pijjum ...

That looks Slavic to me, but I'm not sure if it's Russian per se (those <w>s appear non-Russian to me). <w> /v/ because <v> /n/ (nu) because <n> /ʲu/ aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa клубень klȣbeu Органические кислоты обусловливают кислотность клеточного сока картофеля. Ɔrgani𝼃es...

So... Nort, Did you transliterate a Russian(?) recipe in a transliteration incorporating the idea of rotation to represent phonemic contrasts...? I don't know Russian, but I recognise potatoes and tomatoes... Edit: wait, it's gardening instructions, right? Snippet from the Russian Wikipedia page fo...

Trawɐvistɔe rastevie, dɔstiganᔕee w wᴉsɔtu bɔꞁee 1 metra. Stebeꞁ gɔlᴉj, rebristᴉj. ʞasʇ stebꞁɐ, pɔgru𑨖cvvaɐ w pɔʞwu, wᴉpuskaet dꞁivvᴉe pɔbegi (dꞁivɔj 15—20, u vekɔtɔrᴉh sɔrtɔw 40—50 sm). Ꞁist kartɔfeꞁɐ tcmvɔ-zeꞁcvᴉj, prerᴉwistɔ-veparvɔperistɔrasseʞcvvᴉj, sɔstɔit iz kɔveʞvɔj dɔꞁi, veskɔꞁkih par (3—7)...

Are there people who say [bʊf] for "boof", [fʊf] for "foof", [pʊf] for "poof", or [lʊfə] for "loofah"? Australian English has /bʊf/ "clumsy/stupid person" and /pʊf/ "gay man", but those probably aren't the words you have in mind. /buːf/ &q...

Do we have any examples of languages in which conjugation for person has been lost in all but one or a few very common verbs? I'm imagining a situation where the copula, for example, still distinguishes person such that the subject pronoun can be dropped, but all or nearly all other verbs require t...

For /tɬ/ without /ɬ/, PHOIBLE has Nahuatl, Wintu, and Squamish, and IPHON has Bawm. Wintu and Squamish look dubious, but Nahuatl is a known case. Reichle 1981 agrees that Bawm doesn't have /ɬ/, but analyzes <tl thl> as the only clusters in the language, which seems silly - why not unit /tɬ tɬʰ/?

Lemme guess - alternate history Germanic-lang? The combination of features it has makes it not likely to be descended from any extant Germanic language. English expands earlier and is displaced by French in the Norman Conquest, leaving the present day with a variety of Anglic minority languages, su...