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by missals
Sat Sep 02, 2023 4:19 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: The future direction of Welsh???
Replies: 11
Views: 18382

Re: The future direction of Welsh???

I have no expertise in Welsh, but on the linguistics subreddit I've seen some discussions among Celticists expressing concern that Welsh, despite its relative vitality, is starting to suffer from the same disease that's afflicting Irish; that is, English-native learners of Welsh, who never fully acq...
by missals
Sat Sep 02, 2023 4:03 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conlang Random Thread
Replies: 2938
Views: 2846460

Re: Conlang Random Thread

Today I was imagining a language in the vein of Brahui or Albanian, or perhaps Romani or Ossetian, in that it would be either an isolate (or an "isolate within the family"), or geographically far-removed from the rest of its family, having been exposed to many layers of loanwords and profo...
by missals
Sun Jun 12, 2022 6:40 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Further insights on Iau
Replies: 1
Views: 2965

Further insights on Iau

It was brought to my attention by a post on the Reddit linguistics subforum that several more resources are now available for Iau , the Lakes Plain language of New Guinea with six phonemic consonants, eight phonemic vowel qualities, and eight phonemic tones that has been the object of wonderment for...
by missals
Mon Apr 18, 2022 8:24 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4666
Views: 2057294

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

A random English thing: A while ago I told my friend about an opera I recently listened to, Koanga (1896) by Frederick Delius. When I said the name of the opera, based on how I had read it in my head, I intended it to be /koʊˈɑŋgə/, with the first syllable adapting a foreign "cardinal o", ...
by missals
Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:06 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Tamil as an Indic language
Replies: 31
Views: 13572

Re: Tamil as an Indic language

I always assumed it was called Indo-Aryan to disambiguate it from the other languages of India, not to disambiguate it from Iranian. We have the languages of India, the "Indic" languages, primarily consisting of Dravidian and... the other one. The Indo-European one. Indian Indo-European? I...
by missals
Wed Sep 15, 2021 11:56 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel
Replies: 882
Views: 1082297

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel

Not a real scholarly observation to make here, more of a gripe, but I've been looking at a lot of PIE etyma lately due to the class I'm teaching, and I feel like the reconstructed PIE roots without at least two consonants (with solidly regular reflexes in multiple branches) are kind of fake... The n...
by missals
Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:19 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Katapharteo: an engelang with only one type of syntactic relation and roots that conjugate in base four
Replies: 16
Views: 12515

Re: Katapharteo: an engelang with only one type of syntactic relation and roots that conjugate in base four

This is quite interesting. It's kind of similar to a project I have in which only five syntactic relations exist (two of them kinda marginal) but more ambitious. I think it would be interesting to see what kind of grammatical constructions would emerge in a framework like this. I agree about the pho...
by missals
Sun Feb 07, 2021 6:26 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conlang Random Thread
Replies: 2938
Views: 2846460

Re: Conlang Random Thread

I hope this isn't against board etiquette, but in case anyone is interested, I'm running a "typological voting game" on the CBB where we're gradually building a sketch grammar by voting on features from the World Atlas of Language structures. If anyone has an account over there, feel free ...
by missals
Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:56 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Random Conlang Grammar Ideas Thread
Replies: 58
Views: 56375

Re: Random Conlang Grammar Ideas Thread

For a little bit now, after reading about allocutive agreement in Beja ("a morphological feature in which the gender of an addressee is marked overtly in an utterance using fully grammaticalized markers even if the addressee is not referred to in the utterance"), I've speculated about a la...
by missals
Mon Sep 07, 2020 12:15 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Self phonetic survey
Replies: 12
Views: 9297

Re: Self phonetic survey

I love this! Great data visualization. I did a study on "Canadian raising" e.g. rider [ɹaɪɾɚ] vs. writer [ɹʌɪɾɚ] in some American English speakers and found some similar patterns, i.e. that the difference between the two was exaggerated in primary-stressed syllables and "dampened"...
by missals
Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:17 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4666
Views: 2057294

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

"Bookcase" is a different word than "book case". They aren't stressed the same. (Also, do folks really have [kː] in this word, as Wiktionary shows? It's just [kʰ] IMD.) Yes, for me it has a geminated stop just like in "black cat" (but with only one primary word stress)...
by missals
Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:16 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Pronouns as nouns
Replies: 18
Views: 10279

Re: Pronouns as nouns

I've often been suspicious of those claims about Japanese, as they seem to confuse etymology for morphosyntax. E.g. ぼく boku comes from Ch. 僕 'servant' (Tang *bhuk). But it doesn't mean 'servant' when used as a pronoun— quite the opposite, it's an informal-to-rude male pronoun. And what do the no-pr...
by missals
Sun Jul 05, 2020 12:47 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Phonemically weird words
Replies: 65
Views: 29282

Re: Phonemically weird words

I'm not sure, but I think that's less about the fact that [ɪh] in particular is rare and more about the fact that intervocalic [h] is fairly uncommon in English.
by missals
Wed Jun 24, 2020 8:44 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Irikad and Qorbuch: are they real natlangs?
Replies: 5
Views: 4239

Re: Irikad and Qorbuch: are they real natlangs?

Just another badly-done hoax. On Reddit /r/linguistics was nearly duped by several of them over the past few months, including one called Luxun. Irikad was posted to the subreddit sometime last year I think. There's also that Focurc guy, who writes (possibly a garbled version of) Scots in an exotic ...
by missals
Wed Jun 24, 2020 1:10 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Phonemically weird words
Replies: 65
Views: 29282

Re: Phonemically weird words

My American English idiolect seems to have a phonological hapax, or, uh, a phonological dis . For me, historic /ʊl/, /ʌl/, and /oʊl/ all merge to something like [ol] - thus pull and pole ; bull and bowl ; hull and hole ; gull and goal ; mull and mole ; cull and coal are all homophonous pairs. Except...
by missals
Sat Jun 06, 2020 5:05 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4666
Views: 2057294

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

So Icelandic, Faroese, Greek, Latvian, and Lithuanian are the only modern IE languages to preserve the IE nominative singular -s, right? And the latter three are the only ones to preserve it as /s/? Curious that these are basically on the fringes of Europe (or at least IE-speaking Europe, with the B...
by missals
Fri Jun 05, 2020 12:55 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Morphological complexity
Replies: 72
Views: 37850

Re: Morphological complexity

the much stronger claim that complexity in one part of a language will always be perfectly counterweighed by simplicity in another part. There is no such claim. Yes, there absolutely is, and it surprises me that you would claim there isn't. It forms a regular part of the conventional spiel given to...
by missals
Thu Jun 04, 2020 8:24 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conlang Random Thread
Replies: 2938
Views: 2846460

Re: Conlang Random Thread

That seems to be in the mama category. I can add Northern Thai mam mam 'din-dins'. Perhaps so, but I don't see how that necessarily excludes them from being imitative at the same time. i wouldn't rule out cats being fairly new when these names were given. And the first four could all have a common ...
by missals
Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:47 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conlang Random Thread
Replies: 2938
Views: 2846460

Re: Conlang Random Thread

'That's nonsense! People might have onomatopoeic words for a concept as universal and independent of location and technology as "rain" at a point in their history when they're just evolving language and coming up with words for things for the first time, but not many thousands of years af...
by missals
Fri May 22, 2020 7:18 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Rename that language!
Replies: 50
Views: 30099

Re: Rename that language!

Parallel to Pama-Nyungan, Indo-European could be renamed the Manu-Guman languages, after two of the most common words for "human" in the family (or specifically the Sanskrit and Gothic reflexes of the ancestral etyma).